The Chef Hires A Servant To Stop The Kang From Ringing: Cavs vs Warriors III

[ATearInMyEye]

Re-watching the game, Iggy looking brolic as a fukk

 

[Mantis Toboggan M.D.]

Re-watching the game, Iggy looking brolic as a fukk

:Piratedame::Piratedame::Piratedame::Piratedame::Piratedame::Piratedame:

 

[Conscious Pilot]

Re-watching the game, Iggy looking brolic as a fukk

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Lebron has damn near a 40-point trip while Durant lets Steph and Klay do more work all night, but Durant the better player cause he fresh at the end and James ain't?

The difference is that when Durant needs a breather, he has Iggy to guard Lebron with Draymond backing him, while Lebron stuck relying on fukking Richard Jefferson and Kevin Love for defensive help.

You know you see it @GIL-Scott Heroin.

I just saw this post.



You can't be serious with this. I don't ever remember you applying this same type of reasoning to their H2H record, more specifically the 2012 Finals. Why only play this game when LeBron's team is losing, if you're not going to do it when his team is winning?

 

[I AM WARHOL]

Clear foul

I remember thinking how he's at the crib and only got 2 fts (at the time) finished with 6 and brehs were saying the refs were helping the Cavs

you being sarcastic?

 

[Kinguno]

I just saw this post.



You can't be serious with this. I don't ever remember you applying this same type of reasoning to their H2H record, more specifically the 2012 Finals. Why only play this game when LeBron's team is losing, if you're not going to do it when his team is winning?

Lets not act like the Thunder squad was trash and the worst PG in the league.

How you going to deny one of the goat scorers the ball

 

[I AM WARHOL]

Series aint over yet. Bet the Cavs win the next 2

 

[Dr. Narcisse]

Series aint over yet. Bet the Cavs win the next 2

you being sarcastic?

 

[sfgiants]

 

[010101]

the players need to flex and get em to kill the zone
force a balance between three centric and post dominance
for it all to be riding on the three ball is lame everyone trying to play the same style of ball is a negative

ya diiiiiig¿

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[John Reena]

Warriors haters so lost in da sauce right now. They say Durant joined a superteam, then in da same breath say Curry/Draymond/Klay are overrated.

 

[Omar Little]

All over again

Say Word?

 

[ghostwriterx]

First of all, I'm not weighing into account the collective opinion of the philistine Kobe stans when I talk about the consensus. I said his approach is looked at in that way - meaning folk look at jacking up shots over multiple defenders down the stretch as the wrong thing to do. But then they make the mistake of thinking the opposite is the right way to go about things, and what is opposite to that - passing in the same shell.

Eh, its more than just Kobe stans who think the best player should take the shot in that scenario no matter what.

I'm talking about what folk perceive to be the right play on this board though, most folk that subscribe to the Mamba system aren't really concerned with what the right/wrong play is, but just taking the shot no matter what. Kobe stans and alike aren't really trying to be the voice of reason on this - which is whom I'm talking about.

I don't think it's even a matter or "right or wrong" though. There's more than one way to skin a cat. Certain players shooting over a double/triple team is a perfectly fine option depending on who's shooting/defending. Other times finding an open teammate is just as acceptable.

Personally my biggest beef with Kobe in these situations wasn't necessarily that he shot instead of passing, but that he tended to settle for quick and longer jumpshots especially later in his career. He was the most confident player/shooter since Jordan and at times I think that lead to him taking the first shot that presented itself instead of taking time to get a better shot. Melo is actually one of the best I've seen at this, seems to "always" get exactly the shot he wants in those situations.

Except it's not.

Of course it is if Korver's shot goes in there's no discussion about the play on talk radio/the blogosphere etc. and since the Cavs were up at the time we don't even get the "Korver saved LeBron" hot takes. Not making any judgement on what your take would be.

He wasted time dribbling out the clock (letting the Warriors defense get set and adjust) and didn't take advantage of the Warriors switch (Curry and Iggy - when Curry had his backed turned that was the time to drive), and Draymond giving him a brief period to drive. He forced the ball to a shooter when he ran into a dead end with the clock running out, failing to realize that his tendency to pass in those situations was already forecasted by Curry who was right on Korver the moment he caught the ball. You could see it coming from a mile away, it's what Bron typically does when he gets into the paint and doesn't want to score.

Nobody other than you mentions this if the shot goes in. Not sure what you mean by take advantage of the Warriors switch either? IF he's able to get by Draymond there I would assume Iggy just rotates over since he's already moving in that direction. BTW was that a mistake by Steph to switch that back?

Same reason how teams knew what Kobe was going to do, except one is a direct result of their own chaos and the other isn't. It's why it's easy for one's eyes to acknowledge someone overshooting, than it is someone who's overpassing. We do this in basketball, players who shoot too much aren't looked upon fondly, whereas players who pass, pass, pass are looked at as playing the game the right way.

I agree with this to the point and there are plenty of times when Bron is guilty of overpassing, I just don't think this is one of them. Usually when he overpasses, he either ignores a clear lane/path to the rim when's he's already driven into the paint and/or he kicks it out to someone not open/ready to shoot outside the 3point line late in the clock. Neither was the case/here

Problem was, he had a number of options that were given to him that would've resulted in a higher probability of his team getting a bucket, but he chose one that was near the bottom of the list.

They walked it up and didn't get into their offense until around 15 seconds on the clock. It's fair to say LeBron wasted some time on the perimeter, but again he's facing the best defender in the world. There's no guarantee he gets a better shot just by going earlier. You've mentioned in the past Draymond might be the best defender in the history of the game. You really think the better option for Cleveland was LeBron taking him one on one with Durant lurking in the paint?

If the argument is he should've been more aggressive sooner and committed to something that's a fair critique, but considering the quality of the look they got feels like nitpicking. I don't think Bron's getting by Dray/too the rim and I don't think he gets to clear much space for a jump shot either and if it's the difference between a LeBron jumper contested by Dray or a Kover corner three contested by Steph.

Based on probability there is, but there's no right or wrong approach in general. All about finding a balance, like it is with everything in basketball and life in general. The act of passing to a highly-efficient shooter in the corner in a vacuum is a good decision, however, the way LeBron went about it and his tendency of making that pass late in games most certainly wasn't.

Eh there are no real probabilities to speak of here, this is all conjecture, but in general Cavs get better shots in these situations when LeBron is able to find a shooter then when he tries to create his own shot (except when he can get to the rim).

 

[Omar Little]

Warriors haters so lost in da sauce right now. They say Durant joined a superteam, then in da same breath say Curry/Draymond/Klay are overrated.

Coli will always..

 

[010101]

no more 5 second back down rule let bronbron moonwalk on these boys*