The Chef Hires A Servant To Stop The Kang From Ringing: Cavs vs Warriors III

Who will be crowned NBA Champs and become one of the goat teams in history?

  • Cavs in 4

    Votes: 8 1.1%
  • Dubs in 4

    Votes: 89 12.1%
  • Cavs in 5

    Votes: 18 2.4%
  • Dubs in 5

    Votes: 177 24.0%
  • Cavs in 6

    Votes: 141 19.1%
  • Warriors in 6

    Votes: 147 19.9%
  • Cavs in 7

    Votes: 130 17.6%
  • Warriors in 7

    Votes: 27 3.7%

  • Total voters
    737

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I'm not worried about shyt, clearly you were in your feelings when somebody posted that gif, that you felt the need to cry about how it was a "clear foul" and tried to bring up LeBron's lack of FTs as if that negated all the shyt the Cavs got away with. It wasn't a foul, it's as simple as that. I still don't even know why you'd even bring that up when LeBron was Deebo'ing nikkas out there and not getting called for it. Yet you seem to think Curry making a play on the ball is a talking point.

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To add onto the whole should one shoot or pass down the stretch - the problem is there's this unanimity that Kobe's approach is wrong, therefore believing the opposite is right. Hence why Lebron is looked at as a player who makes the 'right play', when that's not the case at all. The right play is somewhere in the middle. The right play is where the defense doesn't treat you like you're predictable (proclivity to shoot v. proclivity to pass). The right play is where you capitalize on what the defense gives you. The right play is where you take matters into your own hands, and not rely on others to do it for you.


Huh? There's no "unanimity" that Kobe is wrong and Bron is right.:gucci: Bron has been criticized for passing in those situations since he came into the league and plenty of people subscribe to the Mamba system:childplease:. Bron jacked up a wild shot at the end of game 1 in 2015 and got very little criticism even though he should have. Critiquing his decision in this situation feels like results based thinking.

LeBron, shaky jumper, shaky free throws and tired legs matched up with the best defender in the world at the top of the key and Durant lurking in the paint?:whoa: You think the Warriors like their odds there less than a Korver three from the corner with Steph closing out?:ld:I don't think there's a universal right or wrong in that scenario, but LeBron made a decision that got a great shooter a look from a spot where he shoots 50%. Shot just didn't go down. As the immortal Mark Jackson says, it's a make or miss league. :yeshrug:
 
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I think I said something wrong, lol. LeBron's defense in this series has been somewhat shaky, however, people can't deny the fact that he just loses so much energy during those first three quarters because he's attacking on the offensive end while trying to maintain that intensity on the defensive end.

As well as a conditioned athlete that LeBron is, it's a tough thing to ask him to keep up that type of energy for 45 minutes. It's really hard as he can't even get a good rest on the bench because Golden State applies so much pressure offensively that he needs to be on the floor in order for the Cavs to remain competitive. Somewhat similar to the Westbrook situation with OKC vs Houston.

Again, it's up to the bench to be able to relieve some of that offensive pressure that LeBron has so that he can focus a bit better defensively.

Yeah when you're on the floor for 46 minutes against this offense you're expending a ton of energy mental and physical even if you aren't defending "well". Durant "only" played 41 minutes and it felt like his defensive intensity was way down from the first two games. LeBron's averaging 32 12 and 10 on 55% from the field in 41mpg which is insane considering the mileage already on his body and when he sits his team falls apart.:mjcry: Warriors have done a great job keeping a high level of intensity throughout the game even when their stars sit. It's a lot to overcome.
 

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Hope these finals get rid of the narrative that Curry plays shytty in the Finals, put some respeck on his name :birdman:He's the Finals Co-MVP

It's obvious he wasn't 100% last year, this year, he's driving and finishing and grabbing rebounds
shyt is plain as day
 

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:dead: @ where this thread has gone

from the euphoria of gs fans and lebron haters and heart break (:umad:) of lebron stans and gs haters

to the obligatory kobe weirdos coming in to shyt on lebron

and now nba vs nfl

i'm here for all of it :blessed:
That's what we do!!!!

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Yeah when you're on the floor for 46 minutes against this offense you're expending a ton of energy mental and physical even if you aren't defending "well". Durant "only" played 41 minutes and it felt like his defensive intensity was way down from the first two games. LeBron's averaging 32 12 and 10 on 55% from the field in 41mpg which is insane considering the mileage already on his body and when he sits his team falls apart.:mjcry: Warriors have done a great job keeping a high level of intensity throughout the game even when their stars sit. It's a lot to overcome.

It's really amazing what LeBron is doing. He's definitely leaving it all out on the court, averaging an triple double throughout the series, yet he still has to do more. It's just simply an unfair ask of him.

I know I'll sound crazy here but the Cavs do have the firepower to beat this Warriors team. It's just going to take a complete effort to beat them. LeBron, Kyrie and Love just simply aren't enough for them to win. Somebody from the Cavs must step up to relieve that offensive pressure that they have. Also, I think not having Bogut hurts them a little in this series as well as he would've been a great defensive asset for them.
 

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It's really amazing what LeBron is doing. He's definitely leaving it all out on the court, averaging an triple double throughout the series, yet he still has to do more. It's just simply an unfair ask of him.

I know I'll sound crazy here but the Cavs do have the firepower to beat this Warriors team. It's just going to take a complete effort to beat them. LeBron, Kyrie and Love just simply aren't enough for them to win. Somebody from the Cavs must step up to relieve that offensive pressure that they have. Also, I think not having Bogut hurts them a little in this series as well as he would've been a great defensive asset for them.
They've gotten a combined 1 good performance from the 4-15 guys on the roster. Irving and love have alternated between fantastic and awful. As a team they are shooting 29.8% from distance. Their starting center has given them nothing. LeBron has to play perfect for them to even have a slim chance. It's not realistic to expect them to win. The warriors are averaging 120+ this series. The second best player on their team is averaging something like 28/8/8 for the series. This shouldn't have been such a shock. The warriors could and should have won in 5 last year until green lost his cool and got himself suspended. LeBron being out there doesn't change the fact that the warriors are a much better basketball team. I wanted a great series, but it is what it is. The cavaliers have way too many problems as a team and the warriors have an embarrassment of riches in every facet of the game.
 
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It's really amazing what LeBron is doing. He's definitely leaving it all out on the court, averaging an triple double throughout the series, yet he still has to do more. It's just simply an unfair ask of him.

I know I'll sound crazy here but the Cavs do have the firepower to beat this Warriors team. It's just going to take a complete effort to beat them. LeBron, Kyrie and Love just simply aren't enough for them to win. Somebody from the Cavs must step up to relieve that offensive pressure that they have. Also, I think not having Bogut hurts them a little in this series as well as he would've been a great defensive asset for them.
Jr korver shump should all step up insane shump passing on open jumpers game 2 and game 3 and jr driving into the lane without a purpose while korver jacked up contested 3s:hhh:
 
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Huh? There's no "unanimity" that Kobe is wrong and Bron is right.:gucci:
First of all, I'm not weighing into account the collective opinion of the philistine Kobe stans when I talk about the consensus. I said his approach is looked at in that way - meaning folk look at jacking up shots over multiple defenders down the stretch as the wrong thing to do. But then they make the mistake of thinking the opposite is the right way to go about things, and what is opposite to that - passing in the same shell.
Bron has been criticized for passing in those situations since he came into the league and plenty of people subscribe to the Mamba system:childplease:.
I'm talking about what folk perceive to be the right play on this board though, most folk that subscribe to the Mamba system aren't really concerned with what the right/wrong play is, but just taking the shot no matter what. Kobe stans and alike aren't really trying to be the voice of reason on this - which is whom I'm talking about.
Critiquing his decision in this situation feels like results based thinking.
Except it's not.

He wasted time dribbling out the clock (letting the Warriors defense get set and adjust) and didn't take advantage of the Warriors switch (Curry and Iggy - when Curry had his backed turned that was the time to drive), and Draymond giving him a brief period to drive. He forced the ball to a shooter when he ran into a dead end with the clock running out, failing to realize that his tendency to pass in those situations was already forecasted by Curry who was right on Korver the moment he caught the ball. You could see it coming from a mile away, it's what Bron typically does when he gets into the paint and doesn't want to score.

Same reason how teams knew what Kobe was going to do, except one is a direct result of their own chaos and the other isn't. It's why it's easy for one's eyes to acknowledge someone overshooting, than it is someone who's overpassing. We do this in basketball, players who shoot too much aren't looked upon fondly, whereas players who pass, pass, pass are looked at as playing the game the right way.
LeBron, shaky jumper, shaky free throws and tired legs matched up with the best defender in the world at the top of the key and Durant lurking in the paint?:whoa:
Problem was, he had a number of options that were given to him that would've resulted in a higher probability of his team getting a bucket, but he chose one that was near the bottom of the list.
I don't think there's a universal right or wrong in that scenario, but LeBron made a decision that got a great shooter a look from a spot where he shoots 50%. Shot just didn't go down. As the immortal Mark Jackson says, it's a make or miss league. :yeshrug:
Based on probability there is, but there's no right or wrong approach in general. All about finding a balance, like it is with everything in basketball and life in general. The act of passing to a highly-efficient shooter in the corner in a vacuum is a good decision, however, the way LeBron went about it and his tendency of making that pass late in games most certainly wasn't.

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