The Cavs Andrew Wiggins/Kevin Love Dilemma*Update* Deal is finalized

[tremonthustler1]

Love already said he wants to be a cav. He will be a free agent next year.

If we don't get him now, we will get him then, no need to panic and start throwing away all the young assets we've acquired over the last couple years.

so then you wait and we wait.

Granted, you'll have to let go of a lot of pieces. You need a 3rd team with a short contract who doesn't suck

They should just wait til closer to the deadline and see if Minny gets desperate. The Cavs are favorites in the east right now and shouldn't pay a premium price to get Love before its time.

Then you're banking on the Wolves being miserable next season, because if they're even halfway decent, they won't make a move

 

[Goat poster]

You're hoping on what Wiggins can become. We know Love is 20 & 10. You talk about future, Love is only 25 years old, Kyrie is only 22. That's your future when LeBron begins to slow down, which I think he can play at a high level for close to 10 years. The cap is moving up & you still have young talent in Tristan Thompson, Dellavedova & Joe Harris. You're still developing players while getting double to triple on your return for now as much as looking towards the future.

You obviously don't start with Wiggins on the offer sheet but if they don't cave, then you have to make the move, imo.

But what about just getting him when he leaves Minny?

The Cavs have LeBron and also Kyrie who he has already done commercials with. I think he would sign there regardless.

And if he doesn't I would go after Lamarcus who is Underrated and would BEAST playing with Bron and Kyrie.

 

[Malta]

If they can do this & if they can do that. You're telling me Joe Harris is a rookie then responding w/ let's say AB (basically still a rookie) & Wiggins (rookie) can do. And like I said w/ the trade chip in Brendan Haywood's contract we can address a need with that come next season. I understand your argument, I just don't agree with it.

I didn't say Wiggins or Bennett were established players, you're talking about a 2nd round pick in Harris and saying he's Mike Miller, that's a far cry from me saying Bennett could average 13/8 or Wiggins can give you 15/5. There's a good chance both guys start, and both will most likely produce, starting Harris would be straight status.

There's no reason to rush into trading for Love and locking yourself into a roster with little flexibility. The Warriors don't even want to give up Klay for him, but the Cavs should jettison 3 top 5 picks for him? I really don't think some of you understand the new CBA, for the record it wasn't in place when the Heat got together.

 

[Microfracture]

so then you wait and we wait.

Granted, you'll have to let go of a lot of pieces. You need a 3rd team with a short contract who doesn't suck

Then you're banking on the Wolves being miserable next season, because if they're even halfway decent, they won't make a move

I don't expect them to be any good. What indications are there that they'll even manage 40 wins like they did last year? Especially against the west which is gonna be just as strong. Minny will be backed into a corner by the midpoint of the season.

 

[ManBearPig]

Wiggins to the Bulls for butler

 

[QuarterCenturyLegend]

But what about just getting him when he leaves Minny?

The Cavs have LeBron and also Kyrie who he has already done commercials with. I think he would sign there regardless.

And if he doesn't I would go after Lamarcus who is Underrated and would BEAST playing with Bron and Kyrie.

I trust Griff to explore all avenues and what he thinks is best, I'll roll with. At the moment, they're not including Wiggins and I'm cool with that.

I didn't say Wiggins or Bennett were established players, you're talking about a 2nd round pick in Harris and saying he's Mike Miller, that's a far cry from me saying Bennett could average 13/8 or Wiggins can give you 15/5. There's a good chance both guys start, and both will most likely produce, starting Harris would be straight status.

There's no reason to rush into trading for Love and locking yourself into a roster with little flexibility. I really don't think some of you understand the new CBA.

You're obviously not understanding my point. Where did I say Harris would be starting? This roster isn't close to being done & it wouldn't be done by getting Love. We agree to disagree and that's fine because you don't respect a Hall of Fame player compared to the unknown.

 

[tremonthustler1]

I don't expect them to be any good. What indications are there that they'll even manage 40 wins like they did last year? Especially against the west which is gonna be just as strong. Minny will be backed into a corner by the midpoint of the season.

The fact that they won 40 games and by most statistics underachieved (by that I mean given how they won and lost games, they should have been a 50
Win team). It wasn't like anyone was playing out of their mind, they'll have better coaching and they'll use Dieng and hopefully Bazz more.

The only way they're considerably worse is if Ricky doesn't play at all.

 

[Malta]

I trust Griff to explore all avenues and what he thinks is best, I'll roll with. At the moment, they're not including Wiggins and I'm cool with that.



You're obviously not understanding my point. Where did I say Harris would be starting? This roster isn't close to being done & it wouldn't be done by getting Love. We agree to disagree and that's fine because you don't respect a Hall of Fame player compared to the unknown.

You're not understanding that trading for Love would limit the Cavs ability to improve and lock them into 3 players taking up 90% of the cap.

Breh, as of right now Kevin Love isn't a hall of famer

 

[NatiboyB]

But what about just getting him when he leaves Minny?

The Cavs have LeBron and also Kyrie who he has already done commercials with. I think he would sign there regardless.

And if he doesn't I would go after Lamarcus who is Underrated and would BEAST playing with Bron and Kyrie.

Basketball has something called a salary cap.next year kyrie will be a max level player I don't know I'd well have any cap space none the less 18 plus million...I'd were going to get Love it's this season and via trade no other way.

@Malta They aren't trying to understand about the can and they also don't realize value wise your giving up 3 top 5 lottery picks with potential for love by himself.

 

[kash10003]

But what about just getting him when he leaves Minny?

The Cavs have LeBron and also Kyrie who he has already done commercials with. I think he would sign there regardless.

And if he doesn't I would go after Lamarcus who is Underrated and would BEAST playing with Bron and Kyrie.

you are ignoring the salary cap.



Embiid with LeBron and Irving doe

 

[QuarterCenturyLegend]

You're not understanding that trading for Love would limit the Cavs ability to improve and lock them into 3 players taking up 90% of the cap.

Breh, as of right now Kevin Love isn't a hall of famer

I fully understand the risk-reward factor. I see a window open to win and still control young players as they're entering their prime. Like I said, we just don't agree.

 

[kash10003]

I don't expect them to be any good. What indications are there that they'll even manage 40 wins like they did last year? Especially against the west which is gonna be just as strong. Minny will be backed into a corner by the midpoint of the season.

I guess if its during the season, you have to weigh the chances of your scenario vs the chances that MN will be around the 6-9 seed spot in the West before the trade deadline and that David Blatt and the Cavs are underperforming (I don't know what that means, but a long losing streak would do it) with their jobs and LeBron's long term future on the line.

 

[Malta]

I fully understand the risk-reward factor. I see a window open to win and still control young players as they're entering their prime. Like I said, we just don't agree.

The window slams shut in my opinion if they devote 90% of their cap to 3 players, flexibility and rookie contracts > dumping depth for one dude that isn't KD or Bron.

 

[Frump]

You're not understanding that trading for Love would limit the Cavs ability to improve and lock them into 3 players taking up 90% of the cap.

Breh, as of right now Kevin Love isn't a hall of famer

They'd still have draft picks and Haywood's contract..

The three all star thing still works especially with bron the reason it faded with the heat was because 2 of the 3 were past their prime that won't be a problem in Cleveland.

People are overreacting to the spurs..they are anamoly you usually don't win titles because of depth and bench players it's still about your best few players..

 

[MeachTheMonster]

I'm not convinced that Kevin love is some team transformative talent. His stat sheet looks good, but I don't see him going to any team and totally changing their outcome. If he was that good the timberwolves would have had a better record the last couple years.