The Cavs Andrew Wiggins/Kevin Love Dilemma*Update* Deal is finalized

Should the Cavs trade Wiggins for Love?


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Th3G3ntleman

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:laff: "Bennetts been looking so much better". It's fkin summer league wtf gtfoh with this bullshyt. Having flexibility for the future is meaningless when no one wants to play in Cleveland regardless so you trade your "assets" now before they get exposed as shyt.
 

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I just walked outside my office out onto the street and said "MOTHER fukk A KEVIN LOVE"

There someone said it in public.

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:laff: "Bennetts been looking so much better". It's fkin summer league wtf gtfoh with this bullshyt. Having flexibility for the future is meaningless when no one wants to play in Cleveland regardless so you trade your "assets" now before they get exposed as shyt.


Ok...so if we do the trade Bennet/Waiters/Wiggins for Love who do you replace them with?
 
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:laff: "Bennetts been looking so much better". It's fkin summer league wtf gtfoh with this bullshyt. Having flexibility for the future is meaningless when no one wants to play in Cleveland regardless so you trade your "assets" now before they get exposed as shyt.

Who is to say that K. Love doesn't come to town and get exposed as shyt? You gotta always be leery of dudes who constantly put up numbers and never come close to winning. Beyond that everybody can't adjust to being a 2nd option like that and a team with Kyrie and Love and anyone other than prime Dikembe, Dream, Wilt, or Russell at C is gonna get destroyed defensively and you have what on the bench? Who fills in when Kyrie gets hurt? Who gives Bron (who will be 30 this year) a chance to rest? Love doesn't guarantee anything in the short or long term his damn self so what is really the point of tying all your money/assets up in him?
 

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So basically what I'm hearing is that you need to keep bodies around. No matter how bad some of these pieces are we need to keep them instead of trading for a 26/12 guy cause we need 12-15 minutes a night from some of these guys. :russ:
 

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:beli:And this is why the city of Cleveland will never get a ring...... As the Cavs roster stands they are a great team but im not sold that they beat the Spurs, Thunder, Clippers or Houston:ld:. Wiggins is still 3-4 years away, and thats assuming hes gonna be a star, and with LeBron being there his developm
ent will probably slow down. By the time Wiggins is at allstar/ star level Lebron will already be in decline. Its not like LBJ is 25 anymore. This nikka is 30. We probably have already seen the best from lebron:manny:. They need to strike while they can. Cleveland is gonna choke away there window of opportunity by being selfish. A Lebron Kyrie Waiters and raw Wiggins isnt a ring team. In 3-4 years a declined Bron, allstar wiggins, prime kyrie, and solid waiters might be a ring team depending on how good bron still is and how well Wiggins developed. A current Lebron, current K Love, current Kyrie and Waiters is a championship squad for the next 6-8 years. I messs with Wiggins but Cleveland would have to be selfish morons not to do this trade. They'd be fools to wait on Wiggins to develop while lebron is declining. For a city starving for a championship, they are being pretty choosy. They need to get a ship while they can and stop looking forward cause its gonna be sad (hilarious:laff:) when they wait on Wiggins and he leaves to go to Toronto right when they re primed to start winning
 

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:beli:And this is why the city of Cleveland will never get a ring...... As the Cavs roster stands they are a great team but im not sold that they beat the Spurs, Thunder, Clippers or Houston:ld:. Wiggins is still 3-4 years away, and thats assuming hes gonna be a star, and with LeBron being there his developm
ent will probably slow down. By the time Wiggins is at allstar/ star level Lebron will already be in decline. Its not like LBJ is 25 anymore. This nikka is 30. We probably have already seen the best from lebron:manny:. They need to strike while they can. Cleveland is gonna choke away there window of opportunity by being selfish. A Lebron Kyrie Waiters and raw Wiggins isnt a ring team. In 3-4 years a declined Bron, allstar wiggins, prime kyrie, and solid waiters might be a ring team depending on how good bron still is and how well Wiggins developed. A current Lebron, current K Love, current Kyrie and Waiters is a championship squad for the next 6-8 years. I messs with Wiggins but Cleveland would have to be selfish morons not to do this trade. They'd be fools to wait on Wiggins to develop while lebron is declining. For a city starving for a championship, they are being pretty choosy. They need to get a ship while they can and stop looking forward cause its gonna be sad (hilarious:laff:) when they wait on Wiggins and he leaves to go to Toronto right when they re primed to start win

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Since LeBron James announced that he would be coming home, there has been increased speculation that the Cleveland Cavaliers would make a deal to acquireMinnesota Timberwolves forward Kevin Love. Of course, any such deal would likely have to incude No.1 overall pick Andrew Wiggins as the centerpiece.

With Cavs coach David Blatt saying that Wiggins won't be traded, it would appear the Cavs won't be Love's ultimate landing spot. And according to 12 NBA GMs polled by ESPN Insider Jeff Goodman, the Cavaliers are making the right call by choosing Wiggins over Love. Seven of the 12 said they wouldn't trade Wiggins for Love.


Here are what some of the GMs on Team Wiggins had to say:

"Kevin is a perimeter big," added one coach. "He needs to have the ball on multiple possessions to be really effective. It will be very difficult for a first-year coach to divide possessions between LeBron, Kyrie and Love."

"Wiggins is going to be really good in time," added an NBA general manager. "Right now he can shoot and defend. Playing off LeBron and Kyrie [Irving] will take a lot of the pressure off him in the present. He could become a go-to scorer in a few years."

"I feel like Wiggins may only be a year or so away from being a legit contributor," one front-office executive said. "And Wiggins is cheap, so you are able to add more. Love is gonna cost a ton."

And here are what some of the GMs on Team Love had to say:

"Why wait on Wiggins when Love makes them better now," one assistant GM said. "And if you don't get Love now, he's going to be a Laker next summer."

"Without a doubt. Cleveland would be a top-five team in the NBA and the top team in the East -- with Chicago and Indiana a close second and third," an NBA exec said.

"Cleveland becomes the favorite to win it all with the trio of LeBron, Kyrie and Love. With Wiggins, it's going to take time. Sure, he'll give you a terrific defender -- but now you have that with LeBron."

There is merit to the idea that Love would take up a ton of both cap space and touches. Both James and Irving are high usage players and that doesn't mention Dion Waiters. And with Love, the Cavs would be close to being capped out in the future and then be tasked with the year-to-year challenge of finding role players that fit on cheap contracts.

Of course, you wouldn't be wrong to suggest that dealing for Love is the right move either. He would give the Cavaliers three stars near or in their prime. If the Cavs are trying to win it all next season, then it would be hard to argue that Love wouldn't the move to make.​


 
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The more I think about it, the more I think the Cavs need to avoid the trade.

Love has as much experience as Waiters/Bennett/Wiggins do in the play-offs. I used to watch T-Wolves games regularly vs the top teams, and in close games I can only recall once where he really delivered (vs Clips). All of the headaches he caused the T-Wolves the last two seasons and even complaining about not getting touches on Team USA makes me question if he's built for it. Not to mention he's had his share of injuries. Cavs should just go young and build their core, and in 1-2 years time they can make a push with LeBron.

The tricky part is the Wizards, Bucks, and 76ers can also potentially be a problem in 1-2 years if things pan out. If they play against the Bulls in that time span, Gasol gonna beast on him as usual too. Which still means Love to the Cavs doesn't guarantee anything.
 
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Folks in here talking about Wiggins developing into a star, ummmm its not gonna be easy with LeBron there. nikka gonna get that Chalmers treatment if he start driving and fukking up................and remember he has a weak jumper. Exactly how is a slashing wing gonna develop when he has a ball needy PG and an even better PG at the 3-4? How often is he going to get the ball with the OPTION to do something with it. He gonna get a kick out after LeBron or Irvin drive and the lane gonna be clogged as fukk so he just gotta take the shot.
 
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