The Cavs Andrew Wiggins/Kevin Love Dilemma*Update* Deal is finalized

Should the Cavs trade Wiggins for Love?

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Verbal Kint said:
It's hindsight to frame it as an indefensible move that no GM would make. They got prime LeBron and went into win now mode and traded a rookie with questionable prospects for an all star at what was at the time a position of need who seemed to fit well with LeBron. I agree that they could've waited until midseason to make the trade and saw what they had in Wiggins but if they thought they had a chance to win right away it wasn't a bad move. Again, the Warriors changed the game on everybody
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I don't see it as hindsight, most of us argued against the trade from jump and didn't view Kevin Love as some otherworld talent, especially with how bad his defense was then. I said it would have been like trading John Wall for David Lee in 2010, one was a 20ppg 12rpg all-star and the other was about to start his rookie year. Wiggins was the first pick in the draft fam, he didn't have questionable prospects at all, the only question is will he be just a good player, or a superstar. The Cavs botched it, they had LeBron and should have sold him on giving it a try, but if he's the one that pressed for the move then he made his bed and he can lay in it now, because it's pretty obvious they need help on the wing and a 6'8" SG/SF with a 7'0" wingspan could have helped out.
 
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Malta said:
I don't see it as hindsight, most of us argued against the trade from jump and didn't view Kevin Love as some otherworld talent, especially with how bad his defense was then. I said it would have been like trading John Wall for David Lee in 2010, one was a 20ppg 12rpg all-star and the other was about to start his rookie year. Wiggins was the first pick in the draft fam, he didn't have questionable prospects at all, the only question is will he be just a good player, or a superstar. The Cavs botched it, they had LeBron and should have sold him on giving it a try, but if he's the one that pressed for the move then he made his bed and he can lay in it now, because it's pretty obvious they need help on the wing and a 6'8" SG/SF with a 7'0" wingspan could have helped out.
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I feel you on all the reasoning, my point is simply that people argued FOR it as well. There were people on both sides. Some thought it was a good move, some thought it was a bad one. It wasn't like the Harden trade where everybody was immediately like :snoop:
 
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threattonature said:
I think Love would be perfect for a team like the Bulls who have solid to great defenders around him and need the scoring punch. I just think the Cavs are a bad fit for him. They'll have little to no rim protection and little to no perimeter defense outside of Lebron. I think Love is a great talent but needs the right type of team around him which I don't think Cleveland is unless they make more follow up moves to go with it.
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Damn all these issues still exist when going against the West.

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Because the Swagaliers have a better chance of winning now than the Warriors do.
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Got to fukk with LWO brothas but this shyt was ironic as hell.
 
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i thought it was a terrible move because 1) i like love, but i'm not high on him and don't think he can be a difference maker like that because of his liability on defense and he just doesn't make ppl around him better.

2) you had an athletic wing player with good size on a rookie contract. Could've used that money to sign another big name FA or add better depth to your roster.

the only way i see lebron winning a ring in cleveland is taking a paycut to sign quality players while trading kyrie or love - those two can't play together with their bad defense but i don't know which one you would trade and for who.
 
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Verbal Kint said:
That's pure hindsight. At the time a ton of people said it was a great move. And lets be real: the ONLY reason people don't still think that way is because of the Warriors. They got so good so quickly and with a style that all the sudden made the 4 an almost extinct position overnight. to play with the Warriors your bigs either have to be good rim protectors or able to switch on P&Rs like those OKC bigs. Against any other team Love can at least survive defensively. Plus its an odd fit because he's best in the high post/elbow where Bron is also best at so his best attributes aren't being used. It was a justifiable move at the time. Even as a Wolves fan I didn't know if Wiggins would be a potential star or a MKG.
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It's hard to win titles when you got a big man who is terrible at all aspects of defense and then you ask him to be a spot up shooter...when he is not a spot up shooter...

They could have kept Wiggins...got channing frye and not missed a b eat...
 
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Verbal Kint said:
I feel you on all the reasoning, my point is simply that people argued FOR it as well. There were people on both sides. Some thought it was a good move, some thought it was a bad one. It wasn't like the Harden trade where everybody was immediately like :snoop:
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This trade will be looked at even worse than the Harden trade because Adams looks like he'll end up being a high level center and the fact people will say Wiggins could have helped them more than Love.

You a Wolves fan, you won breh, no need to try and sell people on Love anymore you pawned off that lemon and got a Ferrari in return :russ:
 
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Malta said:
This trade will be looked at even worse than the Harden trade because Adams looks like he'll end up being a high level center and the fact people will say Wiggins could have helped them more than Love.

You a Wolves fan, you won breh, no need to try and sell people on Love anymore you pawned off that lemon and got a Ferrari in return :russ:
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Mos def as a Wolves fan I'm :lolbron:
 
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