The black man's fear of independence

[Kenny West]

No group is breh. Group economics is such a contrived bullshyt argument. If you got money you can live out here..if you dont..you cant. Hispanics have banks and mini malls..but its always around poor Hispanics. Those businesses are not uplifting those neighborhoods...many struggle from check to check..they hire thier own..but its minimal wage low tiered jobs..thats not group economics thats surviving..and blacks are already survivng....so what? Next plan..cause what your promoting is shyt on top of shyt. Worried about the out side look but failing to acknowlege the inside..

Jews became one of the wealthiest ethnic groups due to it but ok.

Don't reply to this message bruh, I just wanted to demonstrate how poor your reasoning and critical thinking skills are one last time before any unsuspecting breh makes the mistake of talking to you

 

[NoChillJones]

Jews became one of the wealthiest ethnic groups due to it but ok.

Don't reply to this message bruh, I just wanted to demonstrate how poor your reasoning and critical thinking skills are one last time before any unsuspecting breh makes the mistake of talking to you

Given very articulate and thoughtful consideration to your topic..but you the type of nikka to stay stuck on stupid with hopless aspirations and spoon fed ideologies..but I never said I didnt support your path.
Just emphatically stated its not for everyone and its not the golden goose to black resolve...which FACTS clearly show to be true..

And the Jews came up off money..which provided them power...which afforded political allies...a far cry from simply starting millions of jew owned businesses....you can thank Rockefeller for his contributions to that cause....

 

[Unknown Poster]

You know how many young bright minds are surrounded by people who think the same as some in this thread ?

Telling them that their dreams are wrong and impossible and to get in line and get a job...


Saying entrepreneurs are destined for failure etc...

It's all projection of self doubt...


Our people are toxic with this line of thinking.... it's crazy... the concept of ownership is almost blasphemy...


I would hate to be surrounded by some of yall... nothing but negativity and I'm positive that this killed many dreams over time...

I'm glad I'm not surrounded by these types in real life.

A lot of naivete in this thread...... a lot of yall sound no older than 22... and still in school and shyt....

I'm 32.
I've worked for people but nothing compares to the feel of working for yourself and having your own business.

• Having no one above you and having to answer to NO ONE.
• Managing a staff.
• Managing a store account and keeping tabs on all expenses and all the money made and all the money that leaves your business on a daily basis. Keeping receipts from all products bought for the store.
• Adding up all expenses.
• Keeping tabs on profits.
• Keeping morale high cause if you dont keep your employees happy they will walk out.
• Having to problem solve at work.
• Doing staff meetings.
• Having to deal with disagreements with staff.
• Doing weekly payroll.
• Having to handle advertising.
• Seeing how Yelp! Reviews can help or hurt your business.
• Registering an LLC. For tax purposes.
• Networking with store owners and buyers.
• Working 60 hour weeks sometimes 72 hour weeks with opening and closing each morning and night amd doing invetory.
• Having to make constant phone calls and dealing with endless emails from clients.
• Dealing with customers.
• Answering their questions.
• Making national and international deliveries
• Running an e-commerce/online only business versus having a brick and mortar storefront.
• Dealing with upkeep and overhead (rent costs) and figuring out is it even worth it to have a brick and mortar when you are relying prinarily on instore sales for profit. Versus having an online presence and a brick and mortar. If you arent making enough profits to pay the rent and bills...whats the point?
• Dealing with square cash and providing security for customers knowing they can pay with credit and its safe and its not on any scam bullshyt.
• Handling cash
• Writing out receipts.
• Sourcing materials/product (where are y9u ordering your product from if you are? Where are you getting your product produced? Locally? Nationally? Internationally?)
• If you're sourcing your product internationally...what are the import costs and how to do they cut into your bottom line?
• What are your production costs? And how do they cut into your bottom line? Are you buying items in bulk or buying individual pieces to sell? And how much does buying individual pieces effect the price of the item? Will it be sold at a markup?
• Handing out flyers business cards etc.
• Cleaning up storefronts.
• Designing the storefront.
• Figuring out what to pay your staff based on the weekly profits + whats left over from expense costs (trash bags, hangers, cleaning supplies, etc).
• Scouting out locations for a storefront (i do clothing so we opt to do pop-up shop that last two weeks to a month.)
• Getting people to that storefront.
• Folding clothes
• Putting clothes on hangers.
• Steaming clothes to put on display so there are no wrinkles.
• Opening and closing everynight and making sure all the lights are off and that the doors are locked so you dont wakeup the next day to an empty storefront.

And there's so much more that goes into that and i ran a storefront in NEW YORK CITY. Which is so competetive.

Just admit that you arent built for it instead of making fukking excuses. You aint built like me and i dont fukk with nikkas like you.

 

[NoChillJones]

I'm glad I'm not surrounded by these types in real life.


I'm 32.
I've worked for people but nothing compares to the feel of working for yourself and having your own business.

Having no one above you.
Managing a staff.
Having to problem solve at work.
Doing staff meetings.
Having to deal with disagreements with staff.
Doing weekly payroll.
Having to handle advertising.
Networking with store owners and buyers.
Working 60 hour weeks sometimes 72 hour weeks with opening and closing each morning and night amd doing invetory.
Having to make constant phone calls and dealing with endless emails from clients.
Dealing with customers.
Answering their questions.
Dealing with square cash and providing security for customers knowing they can pay with credit and its safe and its not on any scam bullshyt.
Handling cash
Writing out receipts.
Handing out flyers business cards etc.
Cleaning up storefronts.
Designing the storefront.
Figuring out what to pay your staff based on the weekly profits + whats left over from expense costs (trash bags, hangers, cleaning supplies, etc).
Scouting out locations for a storefront (i do clothing so we opt to do pop-up shop that last two weeks to a month.)
Getting people to that storefront.
Folding clothes
Putting clothes on hangers.
Steaming clothes to put on display so there are no wrinkles.
Opening and closing everynight and making sure all the lights are off and that the doors are locked.

And there's so much more that goes into.
Just admit that you arent built for it instead of making fukking excuses. You aint built like me and i dont fukk with nikkas like you.

Jesus just shut the fukk up dude. I got a 12year old cancer patient the medication her family couldnt afford Friday becauae no one else would fukk with them becauae they didnt have insurance. fukk you and your self gratified bullshyt..I do shyt that helps people and get paid handsomely for it...but your folding shirts and hanging them up is wayyy better then that....cause your black and work in a fukking retail store...

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

Just admit that you arent built for it instead of making fukking excuses. You aint built like me and i dont fukk with nikkas like you

Get over yourself nikka... here is where yall expose yourselves.... all of this bullshyt projection to validate your opinion... you don't even righteously believe in it so you need co signature to feel good about it...


Motherfukka I was paying my Grandma's rent and my mama's house note when I was 16....... I'm from this...

so contrary to that empty bullshyt rhetoric you putting out there... You're actually not built like me....

 

[Unknown Poster]

Get over yourself nikka... here is where yall expose yourselves.... all of this bullshyt projection to validate your opinion... you don't even righteously believe in it so you need co signature to feel good about it...


Motherfukka I was paying my Grandma's rent and my mama's house note when I was 16....... I'm from this...

so contrary to that empty bullshyt rhetoric you putting out there... You're actually not built like me....

I'm actually back at my apartment from work right now in front of my laptop and I'm actually laughing my ass off reading this bullshyt.



Have you ever employed anyone?
Have you ever managed a staff of people you have hired?
Have you ever paid that staff?
Have you actually had to have somebody manage your storefront while you had to go to Union Square to get business cards printed and hangtags?
Have you ever had to deal with press coming in and made sure you kept a clean image for them?
Have you ever conversed with staffs and other people from other brands/companies?

You see, I have actually conversed with the owners and other peopel affiliated with Supreme, Sabit NYC, Alife, Only NYC, Stussy, Supra, and other well known fashion labels.
I've had people purchase my stuff from Switzerland to Indiana.
I actually get invited to Fashion Week events because of this. I actually was invited to one show this year back in december....I didn't go cause I didn't feel like taking the train from Brooklyn that night to the city.
Met alot of interesting women during that period too...when I told them I was not only the boss and manager of the storefront but also designed everything they was like "whoa"...


And the money I made to open up that temporary storefront? I made selling (group insurance plans) insurance to businesses in the NYC/LI/NJ/PA/CT areas at a firm on 14 wall street next to the Federal Building and Trump Towers...I got the job while I was homeless. And my clients were some big names too.

You aren't on my level man.

I'm actually laughing that you think you are.

You a clown.

 

[Afro]

And it's not for risk aversion because hella black men choose to risk their lives and their freedom living the street life for an indefinite amount of time (no exit plan). That same ballsyness could be used as a stock trader or a salesman. But people don't even consider the possibility

It's racial wide low self-esteem. I don't anyone let alone my child to grow up like I did. We need to talk about entrepreneurship because that isn't an avenue that we are exposed to very often. It's daunting because of that.

I would have to search far and wide in my family to find anyone with their own business. My dad tried and got finessed by the construction company out of all his savings. All Op is saying is we need to have more conversations on this topic, because black folk have this innate fear of ownership. Like @JLova said, even if someone wanted to, they would have crabs swarming and no support to turn to for help.

Sure, we may be late by a few decades, but remember that we are behind by about 400 years collectively. I think we still got a chance

This life ain't supposed to be easy

 

[GreenGhxst]

To me that's utter bullshyt, because my thoughts always revolve around those ideas and I really don't know any brothers who really don't have that line of thinking. I'm a boss. Maybe other men don't feel that way or can't see themselves leading, but I can and other black men should too. Then again I hang around black people that are in college, completed college and one that has a masters so we don't really think like that.

 

[MrPentatonic]

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[NoChillJones]

I'm actually back at my apartment from work right now in front of my laptop and I'm actually laughing my ass off reading this bullshyt.



Have you ever employed anyone?
Have you ever managed a staff of people you have hired?
Have you ever paid that staff?
Have you actually had to have somebody manage your storefront while you had to go to Union Square to get business cards printed and hangtags?
Have you ever had to deal with press coming in and made sure you kept a clean image for them?
Have you ever conversed with staffs and other people from other brands/companies?

You see, I have actually conversed with the owners and other peopel affiliated with Supreme, Sabit NYC, Alife, Only NYC, Stussy, Supra, and other well known fashion labels.
I've had people purchase my stuff from Switzerland to Indiana.
I actually get invited to Fashion Week events because of this. I actually was invited to one show this year back in december....I didn't go cause I didn't feel like taking the train from Brooklyn that night to the city.
Met alot of interesting women during that period too...when I told them I was not only the boss and manager of the storefront but also designed everything they was like "whoa"...


And the money I made to open up that temporary storefront? I made selling (group insurance plans) insurance to businesses in the NYC/LI/NJ/PA/CT areas at a firm on 14 wall street next to the Federal Building and Trump Towers...I got the job while I was homeless. And my clients were some big names too.

You aren't on my level man.

I'm actually laughing that you think you are.

You a clown.

Be a self absorbed idiot who thinks hes levels beyond others because he sells womens clothes brehs....you nikka are the fukking joke....man said he was out there on his grown man shyt at 16...and you come back with..well I was invited to a fashion show but I didnt go because im uber cool and didnt feel like riding the train....ol fishsticks ass nikkas...and this the man we as black men need to take lessons from. This Donal Trump fukkboy sounding ass nikka?.......you a legit cornball breh....

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

I'm actually back at my apartment from work right now in front of my laptop and I'm actually laughing my ass off reading this bullshyt.



Have you ever employed anyone?
Have you ever managed a staff of people you have hired?
Have you ever paid that staff?
Have you actually had to have somebody manage your storefront while you had to go to Union Square to get business cards printed and hangtags?
Have you ever had to deal with press coming in and made sure you kept a clean image for them?
Have you ever conversed with staffs and other people from other brands/companies?

You see, I have actually conversed with the owners and other peopel affiliated with Supreme, Sabit NYC, Alife, Only NYC, Stussy, Supra, and other well known fashion labels.
I've had people purchase my stuff from Switzerland to Indiana.
I actually get invited to Fashion Week events because of this. I actually was invited to one show this year back in december....I didn't go cause I didn't feel like taking the train from Brooklyn that night to the city.
Met alot of interesting women during that period too...when I told them I was not only the boss and manager of the storefront but also designed everything they was like "whoa"...


And the money I made to open up that temporary storefront? I made selling (group insurance plans) insurance to businesses in the NYC/LI/NJ/PA/CT areas at a firm on 14 wall street next to the Federal Building and Trump Towers...I got the job while I was homeless. And my clients were some big names too.

You aren't on my level man.

I'm actually laughing that you think you are.

You a clown.

And you'se a bytch... and online is your sanctuary... not real life.... you typed a lot of nothing.... no real nikka that's about that action needs to be validated.... no one believes you playboy.... you came off as depressed and semi suicidal in the past.. but now you a young Robert Johnson... And no one cares about being on your level, because simply put, your level doesn't register..... it ain't hard to tell nikka.... if you couldn't find solace in other bitter nikkas like yourself online, ain't no telling how your "real" life would play out....


You sit in here and shyt on 9 to 5ers but everything you boasted about in your post is straight from a honkey's template of success when it comes to self esteem.... nikka even threw in the Trump Towers for good measure... Again, y'all nikkas ain't fooling nobody

 

[010101]

no more afraid than 99.999999999999999999999999999% of any other race
but nikkas are stuck believing that all things negative are exclusive to their complexion
jahahahahaa sp fukked up

*

 

[Barnett114]

It's getting hot in here

 

[EndDomination]

If you have a good idea and a good plan, start the business.
I keep track of the alumni employment for my school for work study and y'all simplify entrepreneurship, I've seen more upper-middle class White men with all the connections in the world fail miserably than you could believe.

I'm not saying "don't do it" but make sure you know what you're doing before you take out a loan or burn through your savings.

 

[Unknown Poster]

And you'se a bytch... and online is your sanctuary... not real life.... you typed a lot of nothing.... no real nikka that's about that action needs to be validated.... no one believes you playboy.... you came off as depressed and semi suicidal in the past.. but now you a young Robert Johnson... And no one cares about being on your level, because simply put, your level doesn't register..... it ain't hard to tell nikka.... if you couldn't find solace in other bitter nikkas like yourself online, ain't no telling how your "real" life would play out....


You sit and here and shyt on 9 to 5ers but everything you boasted about in your post is straight from a honkey's tepmate of success when it comes to self esteem.... nikka even threw in the Trump Towers for good measure... Again, y'all nikkas ain't fooling nobody

I could go on but I'm pretty sure you get the point.