The Black divers excavating slave shipwrecks: ‘I’m telling my ancestors: I’m with you’

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i'm pretty sure they are distinguishing black people who cam her prior to the europeans and black people brought over due to the trans atlantic slave trade.
The ones i ran across said it's never happened and they always ask "where are all the ships?"
 

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Side note: This is a prime example why black folks shouldn't call every activity 'white'. I'm sure folks would call these dudes crazy because diving is apparently a white activity. Just like camping, skydiving, etc.:beli:

What type of mental illness is this :pachaha:


‘I hate when nggas put bad energy in the air so ima do it first :ufdup:
 

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Good post.

Decided a few years back to completely avoid people who cling to alternative history origin stories about Africans in the Americas.

They are lost causes, and I hope they don't pass the ignorant gene down to their kids.

Haven't heard it in real life since my teen years, and was startled that it was actually a thing online.
 

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That's a thing? :dahell:

How tf else did they think they got here from Africa hundreds of years ago?

I saw one of these guys say Harriet Tubman and Nat Turner weren't real, he has half a million subscribers.

 

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It makes more sense that they took black Americans to centralised point in West Africa over them taking from little ol West Africa and populating all of North, Central, and South America as well as the Carribean Islands. How would they have the ability and power to do this right after getting dragged and popped over the head for centuries by moors? In fact didn't they have to go with moors to even get here?

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Luis de Torres: Christopher Columbus's interpreter on his first voyage to America.


Thats without mentioning the presidents before Washington that we hear no mention of. How does a "Hebrew Israelite Christian" believe a people who are not a people (Deut 32:21) who are pretending to be someone they're not (Rev 3:9 right?) on their peoples history? That sounds like a people who would be accurate on your people's history? Weird stuff, couldn't be me tho
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The last of the Moors got evicted or converted in 1492. There are castles on the West African coasts that were used to house thousands of Africans. Did those people evaporate?
 

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Aint this a "black people need to be reminded time and time again that they were "slaves" slav thread? How come you ignore the original definition of "wight" and slavs turning their name to "white/wight" when they came to America?

In regards to the question look up John Hanson and I'll wait for you to squint your eyes for a semantical argument to make. While you go reach for that semantical argument, also look into dum diversas:

"we grant to you by these present documents, with our Apostolic Authority, full and free permission to invade, search out, capture and subjugate the Saracens and pagans and any other unbelievers and enemies of Christ wherever they may be, as well as their kingdoms, duchies, counties, principalities, and other property... and to reduce their persons into perpetual servitude, and to apply and appropriate and convert to the use and profit of yourself and your successors, "

Theres a difference between a slave and a prisoner of war :sas2:

And by the way this dum diversas was given to the king Afonso V and guess what his nickname was? The African :mjlol:
1. What "semantical argument" have i even brought to you at anytime? Why do you think I'm so focused on semantics... when it's you who is heavily invested into that aspect?

2. The presidents of the continental congress = the president of the United States in your eyes?

3. dum diversas was just a moral excuse to engage in barbaric acts. For some reason you think the syntax of the document has bearing on the intention and validity of it.

4. Alfosno V got his nickname from conquests in North Africa... I'm completely confused on why that is relevant.
 

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people like this getting artifacts that collaborate lived and documented experiences of their ancestors but you have more people interested in cosplaying Indians with no buried Indian ancestors, no settlements nothing but their stories. not an ounce or shred evidence supporting this new identity they adopted.

education matters folks. we are seeing a rift in humanity defined by the limits of peoples education. we have to endure stupid people to our detriment
 

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PretIndians aka LOST NIKKAS hate being confronted with the FACT they Grandmas were lyin through they dentures talkin bout: “We Indians”

i think people took the fact that they can and do have native ancestry to mean that's all they are. then they started pushing the idea that there were Black natives here and using "evidence" that is just pictures of dark Indians. They basically botched the stories. I don't think all the Grandmas were lying. people are just taking intermarriage and some lineage and boosting it to be like that's all their lineage. most of these people don't understand wtf a genetic profile is and that if they have Indian in them it would be a small percentage not their majority make up. you truly have to suffer the company of fools to even argue about this shyt. you can't educate them.
 

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i think people took the fact that they can and do have native ancestry to mean that's all they are. then they started pushing the idea that there were Black natives here and using "evidence" that is just pictures of dark Indians. They basically botched the stories. I don't think all the Grandmas were lying. people are just taking intermarriage and some lineage and boosting it to be like that's all their lineage. most of these people don't understand wtf a genetic profile is and that if they have Indian in them it would be a small percentage not their majority make up.
Naah, the bigger issue is colorism by way of the desire for exotification through claiming to be Black natives.

They never keep that energy with claiming whiteness in families which is wayyyy more prevalent, because it’s a bigger gap and impossible to do without sounding even crazier.

It’s easy to point at colorism in other ethnic groups,
but the “we Indians” out there are no different than the
“mi no Black papis” out there.

There’s no Afro Diasporian ethnic group that was immune to Slavery and colonialism, therefor we ALL have internalized anti-Blackness in us.

It just manifests itself in different ways.
 
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