The Bible is actually a pretty interesting book.

[Chrishaune]

1. What sins are babies committing? Again, why are they being punished for the “sins” of others?

Who's killing babies? People are killing babies. So who is sinning? The people.

 

[Taadow]

Unfortunately

And there we have it.

Just like the “slaves” of that time, we work for other people because we have no other choice
until we can do something different, because we have debts and whatnot. Yeah, somebody might like
their job, but it is a job and we are working for someone else. That hasn’t changed from that time to this one.

 

[levitate]

1. What “other side of the planet”?


2. They weren’t on the ark everybody was told to get on so they don’t drown.
I thought you said you read the story.

So the babies who couldn’t decide to get on the ark were killed because of the actions and sins of others? How is that just? I mean he’s God, he could have just teleported all the babies/children to a safe place instead of having them die horrible, painful deaths.

 

[levitate]

Who's killing babies? People are killing babies. So who is sinning? The people.

God caused the flood. Thus God killed them. God could have dealt with the sinners while treating the babies in a humane manner. But he didn’t he just said “nah, I’ll just kill them all”.

 

[MMS]

I found it kinda…odd that God would kill EVERYBODY ON THE EARTH (except for Noah’s family). Just seems kinda mean, immoral, and ungodly to be quite frank.

you have to reconsider how you view God

imagine yourself when you are sick

you might have trillions of bacteria inside you during your sickness. When your immune system goes to work, all of it is wiped out systematically

and your flesh still remains

now imagine if the bacteria win, your entire body gets devoured after you die

assuming no one is in the equation but you and your ailment (no burial etc). Now consider a being that can speak itself and others into existence

 

[Chrishaune]

1. So folks on the other side of the planet were supposed to know about the ark?

2. Again, related to point 1, what choices did children make to deserve the consequence of drowning?

#2 This story is deeper than your willing to think right now. You have to understand the full background of what was going on before the flood. What we call fallen angels came to earth and had sex with human women creating giants. They were a mix between human and angels (spirit beings). Pretty much what we call superheroes in our current culture. God did not approve of that. He had to wipe out all of these beings, even though they would come back afterwards because women were still being tricked by these human looking angels. So that's were in Genesis when it talks about the seed of the serpent fighting the seed of the woman really comes to life on earth. God made an example of those beings because later Israel was going to have to fight a remnant of giants still on the earth, otherwise they wouldn't know they have to kill giants. These giants that were killed are the demon spirits talked about later in the bible. They weren't meant to even be created so they can't go to Heaven and they are bound to roam the earth until judgement day when everything related to Satan and his following is thrown into the lake of fire. These demons still have influence over people and can still cause havoc. So a lot of the bad things you are mentioning have demonic influence related to them.

 

[Westbama Heartthrob]

And there we have it.

Just like the “slaves” of that time, we work for other people because we have no other choice
until we can do something different, because we have debts and whatnot. Yeah, somebody might like
their job, but it is a job and we are working for someone else. That hasn’t changed from that time to this one.

Yeah, Im with you on that, the thing I take issue with is when Christians down play how much the Bible condones slavery

The God in the Bible doesn't condemn slavery like he should if he's supposed to be all loving. Instead he sets rules for how it should be run. Also calls for the Hebrews to enslave certain people during key parts of the Bible.

Even if it isn't chattel slavery, any form of slavery is bad and should always be eliminated.

But of course, thats easier said than done

 

[Taadow]

So the babies who couldn’t decide to get on the ark were killed because of the actions and sins of others? How is that just?

It is just if he can bring them back from the dead, since they died for something they couldn’t decide.

 

[Westbama Heartthrob]

#2 This story is deeper than your willing to think right now. You have to understand the full background of what was going on before the flood. What we call fallen angels came to earth and had sex with human women creating giants. They were a mix between human and angels (spirit beings). Pretty much what we call superheroes in our current culture. God did not approve of that. He had to wipe out all of these beings, even though they would come back afterwards because women were still being tricked by these human looking angels. So that's were in Genesis when it talks about the seed of the serpent fighting the seed of the woman really comes to life on earth. God made an example of those beings because later Israel was going to have to fight a remnant of giants still on the earth, otherwise they wouldn't know they have to kill giants. These giants that were killed are the demon spirits talked about later in the bible. They weren't meant to even be created so they can't go to Heaven and they are bound to roam the earth until judgement day when everything related to Satan and his following is thrown into the lake of fire.

Why did angels have reproductive organs in the first place?

And from what your saying, that means that God designed angels and humans to be able to procreate. Why? Especially since it's supposed to be a bad thing.

It's not like women can get pregnant by any sperm. Or else we'd be seeing a lotta half man half dog people out here

 

[Chrishaune]

Yeah, Im with you on that, the thing I take issue with is when Christians down play how much the Bible condones slavery

The God in the Bible doesn't condemn slavery like he should if he's supposed to be all loving. Instead he sets rules for how it should be run. Also calls for the Hebrews to enslave certain people during key parts of the Bible.

Even if it isn't chattel slavery, any form of slavery is bad and should always be eliminated.

But of course, thats easier said than done

African people have had slaves too though. We can't ignore that part of history to fit a narrative that benefits our way of thinking. There's no group of people innocent out here. NONE. And with the current situation of sex slavery today, it's still going on with every group.

 

[Clayton Endicott]

A LOT of stuff in Genesis gets 'lost in translation'. Get yourself a Study Bible or Concordance/Interlinear so some of the 'weirdness' makes sense and is put into proper context.

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My mom had a NIV student Bible from one of her college courses that was actually pretty dope. Came away with a totally different perspective on the Bible .

 

[Chrishaune]

Why did angels have reproductive organs in the first place?

And from what your saying, that means that God designed angels and humans to be able to procreate. Why? Especially since it's supposed to be a bad thing.

It's not like women can get pregnant by any sperm. Or else we'd be seeing a lotta half man half dog people out here

Angels have a lot of spiritual power. Not to the level of Yahweh, but they have power. They can do different things like change forms and appear to man like a human or animal, and influence different things in this physical realm such as governments and media. They weren't meant to procreate with humans, but that's something that was possible because they had a lot of power at the time. Now the bible tells us the angels that did that got punished. They were bound in Tartarus, somewhere near or in Hell until judgement day. So they made their choice and quickly got punished.

 

[Taadow]

Yeah, Im with you on that, the thing I take issue with is when Christians down play how much the Bible condones slavery

The God in the Bible doesn't condemn slavery like he should if he's supposed to be all loving. Instead he sets rules for how it should be run. Also calls for the Hebrews to enslave certain people during key parts of the Bible.

Even if it isn't chattel slavery, any form of slavery is bad and should always be eliminated.

But of course, thats easier said than done

The Bible doesn’t condemn “slavery” because that word has a different connotation now than it did in those times.

When most people today think of “slavery”, they think of Chattel Slavery - and that is a relatively new development historically. “Slavery/slaving” in the Bible always refers to working - in the same context we use work today.

If, as you say, all “slavery” is bad and should be eliminated:
- nobody could get a job, we’d all have to be hunters, gatherers, or grow our own food
- there would be no system of Credit/Debt; you could only buy what you could afford
- parents would have no legal authority over their children

 

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[Westbama Heartthrob]

Angels have a lot of spiritual power. Not to the level of Yahweh, but they have power. They can do different things like change forms and appear to man like a human or animal. They can posses people and animals. They weren't meant to procreate with humans, but that's something that was possible because they had a lot of power at the time. Now the bible tells us the angels that did that got punished. They were bound in Tartarus, somewhere near or in Hell until judgement day. So they made their choice and quickly got punished.

But God is all powerful, correct?

So he could have prevented it if he wanted to

So it's clear he allowed it to happen, now the question is, why?