The bias towards hiring offensive coordinators as HC says everything about the NFL

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True I wouldnt say there's much correlation to hiring an offensive coach to more success overall...I dont think it matters.
But it seems to matter when it comes to that bias
 

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defense varies much more year to year than offense does. With the cap, solidifying the offense(QB) gives you a better longterm outlook...just look at the playoff teams.

What your saying is more about teams personal. Of course QB is the most important piece. And b/c of the rule changes, if you don't have a competent QB it is going to be tough.

But the problem seems to be owners are overlooking that, and just saying offence rules the day, "we need a innovative OC". While overlooking coaches on the D side of the ball, who might be better at running a team.
 

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I would say the Seahawks and Bengals are the gold standards for great drafting. Seattle getting the upper hand because Russell is special. But no other teams in the league have found that type of success via the draft.

You can't win consistently without drafting well, period. A lot of QBs put up big numbers, while being paid big money by squads that haven't quite figured that out yet and they are watching now. You will go further, more consistently with a great D and and average to good QB than you will putting all your eggs in the offensive basket trying to make that average to good QB look like he's great.
 

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no doubt
i just think the NFL wants offensive minded coaches because big offensive plays is what draws people in nowadays

like that OBJ one-hand catch, the media took that and ran with it for months

True but were is OBJ and those catches now? Giants were top 10 in scoring and missed the playoffs...again. If they were in the playoffs making a run, the media would be running with that too.
 

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close thread.

Doesn't matter if you have a defensive minded coach,the day of shut down defenses is over. And if you did manage to have one,it would be short lived. At the same time I think the days of a franchise quarterback are over too,give me a game manager:blessed:

Honestly, it's more about the mindset you have to be in order to coach that side of the ball. Defensive coaches are more apt to be flexible and adapt to circumstances. All defensive coaches have to understand offense to coach defense. Offensive coaches lock into their system and their philosophies so their view of the game is more myopic.
 

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You can't win consistently without drafting well, period. A lot of QBs put up big numbers, while being paid big money by squads that haven't quite figured that out yet and they are watching now. You will go further, more consistently with a great D and and average to good QB than you will putting all your eggs in the offensive basket trying to make that average to good QB look like he's great.

A lot of squads made the wrong decisions giving guys like Tannehill money. To make the playoffs consistently(just look at the remaining teams) that position needs to be solidified. Obviously you need a good team and you need to draft well....but the elite QB in place allows you to let other guys walk who will be overpaid by other teams. The Patriots lost their best defensive player to FA and havent missed a beat. These great teams like the Seahawks and Patriots have the QB in place and the pipeline so they dont overpay at other positions.
 

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What your saying is more about teams personal. Of course QB is the most important piece. And b/c of the rule changes, if you don't have a competent QB it is going to be tough.

But the problem seems to be owners are overlooking that, and just saying offence rules the day, "we need a innovative OC". While overlooking coaches on the D side of the ball, who might be better at running a team.

I dont disagree with you. I think hiring the OC because its the most comfortable thing to do is the easy way out.
 

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A lot of squads made the wrong decisions giving guys like Tannehill money. To make the playoffs consistently(just look at the remaining teams) that position needs to be solidified. Obviously you need a good team and you need to draft well....but the elite QB in place allows you to let other guys walk who will be overpaid by other teams. The Patriots lost their best defensive player to FA and havent missed a beat. These great teams like the Seahawks and Patriots have the QB in place and the pipeline so they dont overpay at other positions.

Once again we are talking extreme minorities here. Having an elite QB in place is not realistic for the great majority of teams. Drafting well and fielding a strong defense is. Those wrong decisions you speak of where spawned by the very thought process that you are espousing. This "gotta have a QB" nonsense makes teams feel like they have to break the bank for these regular ass QBs and put all kinds of pieces around them or get a guru...thusly limiting their cap flexibility and taking away picks or expertise that could be used towards that defense.
 

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A lot of squads made the wrong decisions giving guys like Tannehill money. To make the playoffs consistently(just look at the remaining teams) that position needs to be solidified. Obviously you need a good team and you need to draft well....but the elite QB in place allows you to let other guys walk who will be overpaid by other teams. The Patriots lost their best defensive player to FA and havent missed a beat. These great teams like the Seahawks and Patriots have the QB in place and the pipeline so they dont overpay at other positions.
Lol @ you using this thread to shyt on Tannehill who is a top 15 QB.

At the end of the day, the rules are what they are. Tannehill will peak as a player, and when he does the Dolphins will benefit from it.
 

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Once again we are talking extreme minorities here. Having an elite QB in place is not realistic for the great majority of teams. Drafting well and fielding a strong defense is. Those wrong decisions you speak of where spawned by the very thought process that you are espousing. This "gotta have a QB" nonsense makes teams feel like they have to break the bank for these regular ass QBs and put all kinds of pieces around them or get a guru...thusly limiting their cap flexibility and taking away picks or expertise that could be used towards that defense.

I agree its not realistic, but in order to have sustainable success you need to fine one. It's why coaches dont get much rope. If a coach or an organization can uncover a way to change QB's every few years while making the playoffs consistently theyll change the landscape of the sport. As a Jets fan that'd be ideal for me bc its been 40 years.
 

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I agree its not realistic, but in order to have sustainable success you need to fine one. It's why coaches dont get much rope. If a coach or an organization can uncover a way to change QB's every few years while making the playoffs consistently theyll change the landscape of the sport. As a Jets fan that'd be ideal for me bc its been 40 years.

So then how can you espouse people following it? :dahell: It's not about changing QBs for the hell of it, it's about not handcuffing your team to QBs that aren't elite and thusly requiring elite contributions, that they are unable to provide. Most QBs can win for you if you put the right squad around them and take the pressure off them.
 
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