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The Battle Of 1 & 2: The Chef vs. The Beard Warriors vs Rockets WCF Thread
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I meant to say 93-95
Most aesthetic big man ever
I miss the days of hakeem
There will never be another
Peaking to me is playing at the highest possible level you can play at for a generous period of time - not one good game, then a bad game or a few good games followed by a few bad games. Houston is incapable of doing that since their offensive philosophy is built on shooting the 3-ball with players that are inconsistent, average/below average shooters:
Ariza had shooting months with 36%, 33%, 43%, 39%, 44% FG.
Smith had shooting months with 30%, 29%, 38%, 33%, 22% 3PFG
Terry had shooting months with 39%, 46%, 40%, 36%, 42% FG.
Brewer had shooting months with 39%, 45%, 40%, 41% FG (20%, 27%, 27%, 8% 3PFG)
They didn't string together two consistent performances in that Clippers series.
What I'm saying is Houston's wins are largely built on having inexplicably hot games against actual playoff competition.
A three game win streak, proof of this? What happened in Game 6 doesn't happen 99/100. Without that anomaly we wouldn't be having this conversation, because the Clippers would be in the WCF. There was no 'peaking' about the performance, they just rode a late-3rd/4th quarter high.
"Nothing" is an empty prose that doesn't exist in basketball. I would say that since the Rockets were #2 in transition points this season - clearly the effect on shooting was minimal given the fact your four main shooters (outside of Harden) had inconsistent shooting %s across the entire season.
It has absolutely nothing to do with that. At all.
My take really has nothing to do with popular opinion. What is wrong with you? How can you not possibly see that an inconsistent star player with inconsistent role players who are average to below average shooters with an offense that's predicated on shooting, can't peak in a playoff situation? Will you still claim they're peaking if they come out in Game 1 and the team has a bad shooting night as a collective; leading to a comprehensive victory for Golden State? Or will you claim they're peaking if they bounce back in Game 2 with a solid shooting performance, followed by another bad one, then back to having a good one again?
I don't get what's so hard to understand.
#'s #'s #'s that's all I see from you. Those shooting % are not gonna bind the Rockets shooters in this series. It's not like Ariza is gonna say 'I never shot 45% so I can only hit 40% of my shots." If Josh Smith who shot 4-7 from 3 in Game 6 vs the Clips and started 4-4 then in that pivotal 4th went 0-3 that 57% but missing 3's in the 4th means the Rockets probably would have lost that game.
If Josh started off 0-3 and went 4-4 in the 4th which he did something similar then the Rockets win just as they did. Both are 57% but it's WHEN you hit them that counts most. Brewer went 2-2 in the 4th in that Game 6 and 1-1 in Game 7. He might miss his first 2 in Game 1 vs GSW the hit 2 BIG 3's in the 4th to seal a victory 50% and a W.
Harrison Barnes could go 3-3 on 3' in the 1st 3 quarters the miss 4 in the 4th quarter that cost GSW Game 1. After the game you'll see 3-7 that's 43% but he missed his last 4 and those 4 would have helped GSW win the game. So don't give me any freaking #'s. Let me know when they are hitting shots. That's what's most important.
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Whats josh smith contract situation? Is he in houston next year or is he a free agent?
Whats josh smith contract situation? Is he in houston next year or is he a free agent?
They're all inconsistent shooters. They're not just gonna suddenly become consistently good now, after a whole season and for the majority of them a whole career of inconsistent shooting/play. They're bound to have at least one game where they shoot great from the outside, but like I keep saying it'll be followed by more bad ones.
That doesn't make one bit of sense.
It means EVERYTHING if we're talking about peaking. Having a consistent performance in Game 5, then being down by 19 points at the end of the third quarter (with an anomaly of mounting a comeback that doesn't happen 99% of the time) isn't exactly showing signs of 'heading in the right direction'. I don't doubt that the Rockets can win a game or two in this series, but it won't be from peaking - it'll be because they get hot.
Why would I be upset?
Besides injuries, yes those are the main determining factors. I don't think you quite understand that this team is incapable of peaking. At this stage of their careers, the players are who they are. They're not going to turn into great shooters and models of consistency in the span of a week. Again this team is feast or famine.
That late-3rd quarter/4th quarter performance was about as inexplicable as you can get in basketball. How many times would this Rockets team come back from 19 points down (without Harden) in said situation, while going 8 out of 12 from 3 in that 'period' with Ariza, J.Smith, Brewer and Terry ALL going apeshyt from the perimeter - to win by 12 and have a 40-15 4th quarter run. How the hell would Doc know what it was, or the Clippers players? They were taken completely by surprise, it's half the reason they didn't make any adjustments because they didn't what was happening or how to gameplan for it. It's not a regular occurrence that role players like them put up a performance like that.
I don't have it figured out, and I'm not bashing them based on stats - I'm giving you the most probable outcome based on knowledge of how the team plays, the inconsistent nature of the Rockets' players and what I feel will be the main reason if the Rockets manage to win a game or two - which most certainly won't be from peaking.
Yeah you missed the whole point of me referencing their shooting percentages.
Free agent, but Morey will definitely re-up on him.
@Gil Scott-Heroin you sound like gm Morey with all the analytical
How? Rockets dont have cap room.
He signed a 1 year deal with them, I believe they can give him the MLE this summer.
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Y'all talking like Terry is a bytch or something 
I can see him giving Curry serious problems
I can see him giving Curry serious problems
Yeah you missed the whole point of me referencing their shooting percentages.
All I saw was numbers let me glance back at it. You're right I missed it or I don't get it. I don't even care about the peaking thing. If the Rockets play with energy, effort and can keep GSW 3's to a minimum then they'll be in position to win this series. They'll have to hit shots of course but IMO the Rockets are gonna get more open shots than GSW and these NUMBERS back me up on it:
The matchup
Season series: Warriors won 4-0
Pace: 104.5
GSW OffRtg: 109.6 (2nd vs. HOU)
HOU OffRtg: 95.8 (22nd vs. GSW)
Matchup notes:
- All four meetings took place in November, December and January. Howard only played in the two January meetings, before his knee procedure. The Rockets’ current starting lineup (with Josh Smith andJason Terry) didn’t play in any of the four meetings.
- The Warriors were the only team to beat the Rockets four times in the regular season. Only one other team (San Antonio) beat them more than twice.
- The total point differential (61 points) was the largest between two teams that finished with winning records.
- No team shot better against the Rockets than the Warriors, who had an effective field goal percentage of 55.3 percent.
- The Warriors’ offensive rebounding percentage of 29.0 percent was their highest against any Western Conference opponent.
- The five Rockets who attempted at least nine 3-pointers shot them at a combined 25 percent.
- The Rockets threw more passes over the four games (1,243-1,220), but the Warriors recorded more than twice as many secondary assists (30-13), according to SportVU.
- A greater percentage of the Rockets’ jump shots were uncontested (72 percent vs. 69 percent for Golden State), but the Warriors shot better on both uncontested (41 percent vs. 32 percent) and contested (34 percent vs. 20 percent) jumpers.
This is becuz Harden is in the lane drawing their defense and kicking out to open shooters. In the regular season they missed those shots becuz of 4 games in 5 nights, 2nd of a back to back what have we. They'll be rested in these playoffs with a day off every other day which will lead to those open shots falling and putting the Rockets in positions to win this series.
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Thanks for sharing with us the 'most probable outcome based on knowledge of how the team plays...' I'm glad these games are played on the court though and not on a calculator
Good luck thinking that a season's worth of data and player career data/trends/styles/type of play, is suddenly gonna to head the other direction within a week.
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#Trolltruck
Im biased bc i have money on the Rockets going to the finals from a pre season bet...
But i think their length and size at each position is going to win them the series
If Memphis can rip off two wins Houston can get four... they are just as good defensively and have no problems scoring on the other end of the floor.
But i think their length and size at each position is going to win them the series
If Memphis can rip off two wins Houston can get four... they are just as good defensively and have no problems scoring on the other end of the floor.
Well that's the only thing I was refuting, so the rest of your post is irrelevant.