The Battle Of 1 & 2: The Chef vs. The Beard Warriors vs Rockets WCF Thread

Rockets vs Warriors

  • Rockets in 4

    Votes: 5 2.1%
  • Rockets in 5

    Votes: 1 0.4%
  • Rockets in 6

    Votes: 19 8.1%
  • Rockets in 7

    Votes: 19 8.1%
  • Warriors in 4

    Votes: 41 17.4%
  • Warriors in 5

    Votes: 89 37.9%
  • Warriors in 6

    Votes: 55 23.4%
  • Warriors in 7

    Votes: 6 2.6%

  • Total voters
    235

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I'm surprised how many people are saying GSW in 4 or 5 like there's no chance of the Rockets winning the series or even competing, thats crazy. This Rocket squad is one of those teams that is peaking at the right moment. Not to get ahead of myself and compare this years squad to the '94 and '95 squads that won back-to-back but I recall folks saying the same thing and there are soooo many parallels
  • Midseason aquisitions that started to gel towards the end of the season and into the playoffs
  • '95: 1st round 4-1; Tough 2nd round, down 3-1, win 4-3; 3rd round on the road against the MVP...
  • Orlando squad that we swept similar to GSW, was 39-2 at home and were supposedly 'unbeatable'; had 3 players (Anderson/Shaw/Scott) make over 200 3's
  • MVP and MVP runner up meeting in WCF (DRob vs Hakeem/Curry vs Harden)
I get it, GSW is supposed to win, but at the level the Rockets are playing at right now, I don't think there's any team thats gonna sweep them.


LA Varsity was supposed to win too. :russ:
 
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I'm surprised how many people are saying GSW in 4 or 5 like there's no chance of the Rockets winning the series or even competing, thats crazy. This Rocket squad is one of those teams that is peaking at the right moment. Not to get ahead of myself and compare this years squad to the '94 and '95 squads that won back-to-back but I recall folks saying the same thing and there are soooo many parallels
  • Midseason aquisitions that started to gel towards the end of the season and into the playoffs
  • '95: 1st round 4-1; Tough 2nd round, down 3-1, win 4-3; 3rd round on the road against the MVP...
  • Orlando squad that we swept similar to GSW, was 39-2 at home and were supposedly 'unbeatable'; had 3 players (Anderson/Shaw/Scott) make over 200 3's
  • MVP and MVP runner up meeting in WCF (DRob vs Hakeem/Curry vs Harden)
I get it, GSW is supposed to win, but at the level the Rockets are playing at right now, I don't think there's any team thats gonna sweep them.
I think you're mistaking 'peaking/the level they're playing at' and players that aren't great shooters spontaneously getting hot over a few games against a team with weak perimeter defense. Just because Smith hit 3-pters at a 50% clip over the last two games, doesn't mean he's now 'peaking', it just means he got hot for a brief period - we all know he's not gonna maintain that for an entire series.

This Houston team is too fundamentally flawed to 'peak', sure they can get hot here and there but that's more impromptu than anything else, because it'll always be leveled out with bad performances (especially against a defense as good as GS'). From game to game it's either feast or famine with this team, you never know what you're gonna get. They're not the first team to reach the conference finals with a negative point differential in the modern era for their level of consistency.
 

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I think you're mistaking 'peaking/the level they're playing at' and players that aren't great shooters spontaneously getting hot over a few games against a team with weak perimeter defense. Just because Smith hit 3-pters at a 50% clip over the last two games, doesn't mean he's now 'peaking', it just means he got hot for a brief period - we all know he's not gonna maintain that for an entire series.

This Houston team is too fundamentally flawed to 'peak', sure they can get hot here and there but that's more impromptu than anything else, because it'll always be leveled out with bad performances (especially against a defense as good as GS'). From game to game it's either feast or famine with this team, you never know what you're gonna get. They're not the first team to reach the conference finals with a negative point differential in the modern era for their level of consistency.
breh you sounding like a real ball nerd now
 

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I think you're mistaking 'peaking/the level they're playing at' and players that aren't great shooters spontaneously getting hot over a few games against a team with weak perimeter defense. Just because Smith hit 3-pters at a 50% clip over the last two games, doesn't mean he's now 'peaking', it just means he got hot for a brief period - we all know he's not gonna maintain that for an entire series.

This Houston team is too fundamentally flawed to 'peak', sure they can get hot here and there but that's more impromptu than anything else, because it'll always be leveled out with bad performances (especially against a defense as good as GS'). From game to game it's either feast or famine with this team, you never know what you're gonna get. They're not the first team to reach the conference finals with a negative point differential in the modern era for their level of consistency.

I would NEVER site Josh Smith hitting 3 pointers at a 50% clip as an example of what I mean by the Rockets are peaking. The Rockets shoot 3's thats what they do so not sure why you chose the easiest path to disagreeing with me other than...it was the easiest path.

The Rockets transition game which is top notch, is predicated on their ability to team defend and thats the area that most exemplifies how they are peaking. It took 3 and a half games, but the Rockets were finally able to adjust to what the Clippers were doing. I'd imagine they'd be able to adjust to the Warriors within a couple games as well.
 

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I would NEVER site Josh Smith hitting 3 pointers at a 50% clip as an example of what I mean by the Rockets are peaking. The Rockets shoot 3's thats what they do so not sure why you chose the easiest path to disagreeing with me other than...it was the easiest path.
This team simply can't peak in the general sense, because good performances will always be equalized by bad ones - part of this is down to Harden and how the team is constructed. This is what I'm getting at. You're always gonna have inconsistent levels of production from all their role players; one of them will be hot one game and the others will be off, or a bunch of them will be hot then fail to produce in the next game. There aren't any great shooters/slashers on this team to build towards an apex over a sustainable period of time that's in tune with the team's offensive philosophy.

Like I said it's feast or famine with this team, every game.

The Rockets transition game which is top notch, is predicated on their ability to team defend and thats the area that most exemplifies how they are peaking.
That's not peaking.
It took 3 and a half games, but the Rockets were finally able to adjust to what the Clippers were doing. I'd imagine they'd be able to adjust to the Warriors within a couple games as well.
:heh:

They won't be able to adjust, sure they may steal a game or two from being inexplicably hot, but there's no rhyme or reason to this Rockets team for them to work out a team that has arguably the best defense and best offense in the league.
 
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This team simply can't peak in the general sense, because good performances will always be equalized by bad ones - part of this is down to Harden and how the team is constructed. This is what I'm getting at. You're always gonna have inconsistent levels of production from all their role players; one of them will be hot one game and the others will be off, or a bunch of them will be hot then fail to produce in the next game. There aren't any great shooters/slashers on this team to build towards an apex over a sustainable period of time that's in tune with the team's offensive philosophy.

Like I said it's feast or famine with this team, every game.


That's not peaking.

:heh:

They won't be able to adjust, sure they may steal a game or two from being inexplicably hot, but there's no rhyme or reason to this Rockets team for them to work out a team that has arguably the best defense and best offense in the league.

Brewer and Josh just had back to back good to great games. Ariza had 3 great games in a row. TJones since going to the bench has played well. The role players seem to have found their niche and know that they are important to the Rockets success. I think they can play well in this series. They might not shoot the % that the Warriors shoot but it's not always about % it's about when you make them.
 

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This team simply can't peak in the general sense, because good performances will always be equalized by bad ones - part of this is down to Harden and how the team is constructed. This is what I'm getting at. You're always gonna have inconsistent levels of production from all their role players; one of them will be hot one game and the others will be off, or a bunch of them will be hot then fail to produce in the next game. There aren't any great shooters/slashers on this team to build towards an apex over a sustainable period of time that's in tune with the team's offensive philosophy.

Like I said it's feast or famine with this team, every game.


That's not peaking.

:heh:

They won't be able to adjust, sure they may steal a game or two from being inexplicably hot, but there's no rhyme or reason to this Rockets team for them to work out a team that has arguably the best defense and best offense in the league.

I'm really confused, we don't have the ability to peak? You do know what a wavelength looks like right? If so, then what you're saying is that our wins are a product of luck, and that in a 7 game series the luckier team won? And a 3 game win streak of double digits in the playoffs after losing 3 of the prior 4 by double digits does not appear as a trend upward on your scale? And you're saying that those Rocket wins were because of hot shooting and had nothing to do with defense leading to transition buckets that positively impact shooting percentage?

Man, just say you don't like the Rockets and/or you don't want them to win. I can respect that a whole lot more than spouting bullshyt logic based on the popular opinion and having nothing to do with actual game to game progression, I can watch ESPN for that!
 
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