The Atlantic: Pro Wrestling is fake, but its race problem isn't

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the one thing that was overlooked that could've made an even stronger point was how cryme time was the most over team in the company at one point and yet they never got a run as tag champs
They had that #1 contender's match, won it and then never got the title shot :laugh:

Yep. Pre-Russo era, that's a legendary mid-card career. These days, that's a pretty standard list of achievements for a curtain jerker.
 

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I've never liked the WWE is racist and holding black stars back narrative, and considering its not only black wrestlers who get stereotypical gimmicks but all the other ethnicities as well (Mexican, Asian, French) I think it's more a testament to how lazy and un-inspired the creative team is. Even the new wrestlers in NXT have nationalist or stereotype gimmicks (See The Legionnaires and Big Cass and Enzo). Ethnic wrestlers won't ever get the benefit of creative ingenuity, and that's the downfall of talent like Shelton Benjamin, Booker T, etc. who should have won the "big one" multiple times. If they're not shuckin and jivin and dancing, then they're ebonics talking gangsters, and if they're not that then they're generic "blue chipper world class athletes".
 

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Booker to me was always great in ring but i dont think THE PEOPLE loved him that much like the rock, and mvp again this is my opinion from over the years but he just never had it like the rock.

ive seen posters on here say the rock isnt a black man lol but ive always and will forever i.d him as black man

havnt read the article but i dont think theirs a race problem, just a lack of a black star that can be universally loved

i dont mind if people flame me for this post but to be champ u got to be over when heel or face

No. Because ONE black guy was successful (in terms of 'extreme success') doesn't mean it's not a racist problem. You have a real issue when the one black guy you're using to defend your argument is one of the biggest icons in professional wrestling.

It's definitely a race problem. It's the same fukking race problem that applies to movies, shows everything. Instead of acknowledging that they have a diverse audience who are fukking people with multi faceted personalities, they reduce their POC wrestlers to a gimmick that they believe will be easier for the audience to digest, further perpetuating stereotypes many of their own fukking audience faces. IE Cryme Tyme. "All black people are obviously ghetto criminals and if we make them anything else, the audience won't buy it. OH A MEXICAN!? Slap a bandana and some shades on em!"

Not only is it ignorant, it's alienating and fukked up. Especially when they have so many young fans. Kofi is fukking LOVED by children and if the WWE really wanted to, they could make him John Cena lite. There is nothing stopping them.

Also, miss me with that 'universally loved' shyt. The WWE forces enough white wrestlers down our throats until we love them. Sheamus is not universally loved and neither is BNB. But these dudes are given chances on chances on chances. When the hell have they done that for black wrestlers.?

When it comes to representation in media for people of color, it's always a race thing because we seldom get any.
 

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given the rapidly contracting WWE revenues and ratings in the USA, and the fact that despite attempting global expansion, there's much reason to fret over WWE's future.

WWE hasn't even yet made an attempt to create multi-facet minority characters, or even give them a CHANCE - especially Asian wrestlers - despite attempting to move into markets such as China. Prediction: if this does not change, the WWE will be dead within 20 years.

You cannot survive in a country and world that is becoming more and more connected and globalized while creating such backwards caricatures. It just isn't going to happen.
 

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As a company the WWE always strives to put out a product that is reflective of its unique fan base. The WWE reaches people of different backgrounds throughout the world, and because of this they pride themselves on being one of the most diverse television programs currently on the air. When you watch a WWE show you see people of different ethnicities, genders, and sexual orientations working together to entertain the WWE Universe. You won't find a more diverse array of entertainers anywhere in the world than on WWE programming.
 

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No. Because ONE black guy was successful (in terms of 'extreme success') doesn't mean it's not a racist problem. You have a real issue when the one black guy you're using to defend your argument is one of the biggest icons in professional wrestling.

It's definitely a race problem. It's the same fukking race problem that applies to movies, shows everything. Instead of acknowledging that they have a diverse audience who are fukking people with multi faceted personalities, they reduce their POC wrestlers to a gimmick that they believe will be easier for the audience to digest, further perpetuating stereotypes many of their own fukking audience faces. IE Cryme Tyme. "All black people are obviously ghetto criminals and if we make them anything else, the audience won't buy it. OH A MEXICAN!? Slap a bandana and some shades on em!"

Not only is it ignorant, it's alienating and fukked up. Especially when they have so many young fans. Kofi is fukking LOVED by children and if the WWE really wanted to, they could make him John Cena lite. There is nothing stopping them.

Also, miss me with that 'universally loved' shyt. The WWE forces enough white wrestlers down our throats until we love them. Sheamus is not universally loved and neither is BNB. But these dudes are given chances on chances on chances. When the hell have they done that for black wrestlers.?

When it comes to representation in media for people of color, it's always a race thing because we seldom get any.

lol i say that because we should know by now that the world isnt going to fuk with anything forced, why should a black wrestler be pushed if he isnt 10/10?

we use the rock as an example because he came in the game fresh

now the gimmics with black stars well i cant say much about it, isnt rassling a white market thing? can we agree that their are more whites part of the product, wasnt cryme tyme a one off thing? how many black rasslers stay like that? cryme tyme came in the game as funny goofy hood dudes, yh sure its a gimmic and sterotype thing but they are just playing a role, if they played as golfers dressed in golf clothes would they not get called out too,? whats a kneega to do

and hell no way can they make kofi like cena, thats like saying they can make anyone like cena or stone cold etc etc, the person has to have an aura already that is natural, u mention sheamus and bad news barret, with them i dont see it as force, they are no bigger than kofi or langston, maybe they just cant push kofi like them but make no mistake those two can not be forced , doesnt matter if they make bad news the champ tomorrow, if the people dont like it they dont like it, if the aura isnt hot it isnt hot, still time for a new black champ, that will have the it factor but i dont see it in any current black wwe guys, the right or guys just need to come imo.
 

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The kind of tweets dude has had to deal with all day.

Just searched "WWE racist" on Twitter brehs all I have to say is :snoop: to white fans who see nothing wrong.

Because the worst thing (to white people) is calling them racists. They focus on that instead of the racist shyt that they actually fukking do. The issues is people having this antiquated view of racism like it only means burning crosses, wearing white hoods and calling everyone the n-word.

Lack of diversity in a so called global company is racist.
Using the excuse that most is your audience is white, is racist.

Being privileged makes people stupid as fukk and it's even worse when they don't recognize their privilege. It should be a fukking requirement for white people to take a sociology class to graduate high school.
 

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given the rapidly contracting WWE revenues and ratings in the USA, and the fact that despite attempting global expansion, there's much reason to fret over WWE's future.

WWE hasn't even yet made an attempt to create multi-facet minority characters, or even give them a CHANCE - especially Asian wrestlers - despite attempting to move into markets such as China. Prediction: if this does not change, the WWE will be dead within 20 years.

You cannot survive in a country and world that is becoming more and more connected and globalized while creating such backwards caricatures. It just isn't going to happen.

reading this post it looks like u would like the wwe to have stars of all colors? ok but what if they just dont have right guys yet? lets say they just have the whites = cena, byran , is it by force that they should groom a chinese rassler to hit all points?
 
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