The Atlanta Falcons don't get enough Credit for there turnaround Post Mike Vick

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:snoop: Michael Jenkins bum ass had an easy TD in that game but he dropped it.

Whats crazy is it was this season and not the 11-5 season before that i felt we were headed in the right direction. We won the last three games when we were already eliminated.
 

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I'm white for giving my opinion? :what: Matt DOES have a better all around supporting cast, but my point is that Mike never raised the level of play of the group around him. And prior to the contrary, Mike did have some talent around him...Alge was one of Mike's go to guys & a Pro Bowler, how is that debateable? :wtf: Of course Roddy & Julio>>> anything Mike ever had, but neither one of them would have put up numbers with Mike throwing the ball.

:laff: @ Vick making Crumpler. I can tell who ACTUALLY watched the Falcons & who just caught Sportscenter

@Rev, really breh? B/c teams get a high pick & new coach & GM and become model organizations ALL the time, I forgot :ohhh:

Fam, McKay got sent to the administrative role for a reason. Those didn't have enough fire power on the edges. We all know you don't build an offense around TE's. Dez white :heh:

The problem was those teams weren't talented enough an either side of the football
 
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i sometimes imagine what vick coulda done had he not gotten hurt against the Ravens in the 03 preseason....maybe Peerless Price wouldnt've been a bust like he was vith Vick at qb during the Mora/Knapp years

Dimitroff and Smith have done a really good job in their tenure....4 playoff app. in 5 winning seasons, 2 division titles and an NFC Title berth. They make you forget about the Leeman Bennet era. Teams envy our success (playoff futility aside).
 

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i sometimes imagine what vick coulda done had he not gotten hurt against the Ravens in the 03 preseason....maybe Peerless Price wouldnt've been a bust like he was vith Vick at qb during the Mora/Knapp years

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Fam, McKay got sent to the administrative role for a reason. Those didn't have enough fire power on the edges. We all know you don't build an offense around TE's. Dez white :heh:

The problem was those teams weren't talented enough an either side of the football

NE has actually done just that. problem is Crumpler as good as he was isn't near the monster that Gronk and Hernandez are.
 

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NE has actually done just that. problem is Crumpler as good as he was isn't near the monster that Gronk and Hernandez are.

In much more spread offense that also includes a guy like Welker. Not saying it can't be done but when the TE is your lone threat in the passing game you are in trouble.
 

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this is the nfl. any team can be made into a contender in 3 years. if you believed some idiot on espn saying it would take 10 years, then thats on you.
 

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Basically. Matt's one win away from completely surpassing everything Mike EVER did here in ATL. Not saying Matt's as dynamic or exciting as Mike, but win's, win %, divisions won, etc Matt>>Mike. And for the revisionist history that Mike ain't have weapons, what weapons do y'all think he was supposed to have? Roddy wasn't ready yet, but we still had a Pro Bowl TE in Alge Crumpler, Warrick Dunn & TJ Duckett was a dynamic rushing attack (remember DVD?). That offense was built around Vick with the belief that HE would raise the play of everybody around him, but that never happened. I wish nikkaz would stop giving Vick a pass for not raising his teammates level of play...it's not all on the GM & ownership to get you pro bowl talent across the board


so what ? Vick had to carry that shytty franchise on his back.

Matt Ryan is a passeneger.
so
 

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Nonsense

The trigger man on a team who best side of the ball is offense is a passenger?


I got no respect for Matt Dilfer.


He can prove me wrong tomorrow though. I do not expect him to though.
 

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an NFC Championship game.

Ryan can't even say that since he was a passenger.

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Michael Vick "carried" us to jack shyt. We're supposed to be impressed with a single NFC Championship game for a guy who was the no.1 pick in the draft? In a year where the comp that he faced in the playoffs was an 8-8 Rams team a the end of its rope? Even then he only had 82 yards passing(119 rushing though).

Maybe he would've been better off being "just a passenger" since when we were counting on him to take the next step and elevate this franchise he not only failed miserably, but he went and got himself arrested which forced us into rebuilding. Don't give me this garbage.
 
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