The African Traditional And Diasporic Religions Thread (Santeria, IFA, 21 Divisions, Sanse + etc)
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I'm asking because there are some notable exceptions to the Ifá influence like The Akan
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No, it is not the root.
The Igbo, Yoruba, Ewe etc. come from the same area in Central Nigeria 2000-3000 years ago.
They migrated to other parts of West Africa over a period of time. Just like the Indo-European migrations carried worship of sky gods like Zeus, Thor and Indra to diverse places in Eurasia - migrations from Central Nigeria thousands of years ago carried iterations of a divination system that is used by Igbo dibia, Yoruba babalowos.
In regard to the Akans of Ghana and Ivory Coast - they have some customs in common with other West African peoples (pouring libations on the ground, pantheon of Gods with a supreme deity) - though I'm quite sure they did not come out of that Central Nigerian migration:
So...it's the rootNo, it is not the root.
The Igbo, Yoruba, Ewe etc. come from the same area in Central Nigeria 2000-3000 years ago.
They migrated to other parts of West Africa over a period of time. Just like the Indo-European migrations carried worship of sky gods like Zeus, Thor and Indra to diverse places in Eurasia - migrations from Central Nigeria thousands of years ago carried iterations of a divination system that is used by Igbo dibia, Yoruba babalowos.
In regard to the Akans of Ghana and Ivory Coast - they have some customs in common with other West African peoples (pouring libations on the ground, pantheon of Gods with a supreme deity) - though I'm quite sure they did not come out of that Central Nigerian migration:
Those groups you mentioned weee the ones I were thinking of
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Is ifá not the divination system that influence those religions ?How can it be the root, when it is a branch?
I thought for example Yoruba religion/Igbo dibia grew (partially) from ifá
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So ifá is strictly Yoruba ? I thought it was something present in all those ethnicities
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Speak on it, beloved. Asides from da fact that these practices evolved due to da slave trade based upon where these groups went as well as some of these systems being mixed (even those of warring tribes) to keep our traditions alive as a connection back home across da water. So, nah, Ifa isn't da sole root.
Guvnor
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Indeed, you have the akaan and their beliefs among other groups which have their own spirtual traditions. Some of them have similarities but also differences.
Winti for instance is another religion someone brought to my attention and it's a syncretic religion created in Suriname a country near Guyana.
I'm doing some research on Jamaican afrodiaspric religions which is why I right up the ifá questionIndeed, you have the akaan and their beliefs among other groups which have their own spirtual traditions. Some of them have similarities but also differences.
Winti for instance is another religion someone brought to my attention and it's a syncretic religion created in Suriname a country near Guyana.
Both Jamaica and Suriname have large Akan influence
My father is from Jamaica and my grandfather is from Suriname so I'm willing to bet I have some Akan in me
Breh I'm so confused. I thought ifá predates these religions /spiritualities
Guvnor
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Well do you mean IFA as a divination Dip? or do you mean as a religion? I would argue that they have different religions but similarities however IFA is from the Yoruba people.
The deities and practices of other groups are different and should not be mixed unless you know what your doing I hear.
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It is called áfà in Igbo. The Ewe call it Afa.
http://www.anabaptistwiki.org/mediawiki/images/f/fe/Afa_Divination_and_Anlo-Ewe_in_Ghana.pdf
Afa Divination | Odinani: The Sacred Arts & Sciences of the Igbo People