The 1st Decision Adam Silver should make as Commissioner is to rename the MVP Trophy
- Thread starter Alexander The Great
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not malone. even his 98 mvp was questionable. jordan should have easily gotten the MVP that year.
mastermind
Rest In Power Kobe
Wilt's better
Majestic Pape
The-Coli = W SOHH = L
Kareem and Shaq are better. Russell isn't better individually skillwise but all of that team success he led can put him over the top.
mastermind
Rest In Power Kobe
nope, Wilt's better.
Hakeem>Kareem>Shaq>Wilt
Majestic Pape
The-Coli = W SOHH = L
mastermind
Rest In Power Kobe
the day when Shaq leads the league in rebounds and blocks, is the day I can say Shaq compares.Nope, Shaq and Kareem are better.
Majestic Pape
The-Coli = W SOHH = L
The day Shaq plays against the competition Wilt played against is the day he leads the league in rebounds and blocks (and points and field goal percentage).
mastermind
Rest In Power Kobe
you mean the HOFers Wilt played against?
You do realize most of the HOF big men came from that era?
Shaq's dominance period was actually the start of the dead centers era.
Mic-Nificent
I didn't eat nobody
MVP trophy should be named after Kareem.....
Finals MVP trophy should have been named after MJ
DPOY should have been named after Russell.
Finals MVP trophy should have been named after MJ
DPOY should have been named after Russell.
R.E.N. Spells Ren
Veteran
MJ's the league's biggest star... they should name this trophy after him.
beenz
Rap Guerilla
from the Maurice Podoloff Trophy to the Michael Jordan Trophy
make it this
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dantheman9758
All Star
Oh look the weak era fallback argument again
Rebounding is effort, nevermind Wilt's volume of rebounds - his TRB% estimates throughout his career are second only to Dennis Rodman... Shaq's rebounding percentages on the other hand are way down the list.
Wilt Chamberlain
60 - 20.3
61 - 20.7
62 - 20.0
63 - 20.8
64 - 19.8
65 - 20.3
66 - 20.4
67 - 21.3
68 - 20.1
69 - 20.4
70 - 20.7
71 - 18.4
72 - 20.1
73 - 19.6
Career TRB%: 20.16
This ignoring that playing an avg of 46mpg would come at the cost of some rebounding% in place of the volume... playing that many minutes with that high of a percentage, while for most of his career being equally committed to offense is ridiculous. It is all about effort. Bill Russell is 3rd highest in TRB% on the all time list btw, only behind Wilt and Rodman and above the next best Moses Malone;
Bill Russell - 19.94
Moses Malone - 19.83
And Wilt grabbed 55 rebounds one game against Bill Russell. So how many rebounding titles would Shaq win back then against the 2nd and 3rd highest TRB% players of all time - and the highest volume rebounders of all time? Let's take a closer look at Shaq's TRB%'s;
Shaquille O'Neal
20.6 <- rookie out to prove himself
18.7
17.6
17.8
18.8
17.7
18.0
18.3
18.1
16.3
16.5
17.7
17.8
17.6
15.4
18.4
16.4
20.8 <- 28 game season
16.4
17.0
14.6
Career TRB% 17.8
Looks like he tried hard as a rookie with a Chamberlain-esq TRB% season (except at 10 less mpg, so he'd have had less volume)... then for the rest of his career he just flat out stops concentrating on rebounding because unlike Wilt he doesn't seem to be able to carry the load of rebounding while focused on scoring. Prime Shaq rebounds at about the same rate as 1970's Kareem... Kareem always got outrebounded by Wilt. Looks like Shaq would too. Rebounding aint Shaqs game breh. And don't even get me started on their defense and shot blocking.
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