IllmaticDelta
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Can I claim white then considering I have white ancestry, and that includes being accepted by white people in the way we accept biracials
Look at my last post for your answer
The "1 Drop Rule" explained and how it's tied to AfroAmerican identity
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Look at my last post for your answer
What if white people start reclaiming all these white looking blacks as white. What then?
Will they be white now? So ancestry has no bearing on someone's identity. He or she jyst need to say they have great great grandmother that was black or biracial and boom she/he gets thrown in the black category. Because a bunch of white men in the past say it was so?
Let me ask you this...assuming you are black, preferably of 50+ black lineage. When you see these people do you genuinely see them as black? Do you honestly feel they experience and are in tune to the blacl experience in the us?
So then why do we have to claim white looking mixed folks? Alot of them have European features with the only thing differentiating them from white folks is there skin tone
IllmaticDelta
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No because the previous 150+ years that created the "Afram" identity can't be reversed, which includes the colorline, one drop and jim crow laws
Origins of African-American Ethnicity or African-American Ethnic Traits
The newly formed Black Yankee ethnicity of the early 1800s differed from today’s African-American ethnicity. Modern African-American ethnic traits come from a post-bellum blending of three cultural streams: the Black Yankee ethnicity of 1830, the slave traditions of the antebellum South, and the free Creole or Mulatto elite traditions of the lower South. Each of the three sources provided elements of the religious, linguistic, and folkloric traditions found in today’s African-American ethnicity.30
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IllmaticDelta
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These people already identify as "black"...the ones who don't, can be whatever their features allow them to be. So for example, someone like Adam Clayton Powell Jr who was fair skinned came from free people of color who instilled and passed the AFram/black identity down to him...why should I deny him that identity when he was infact by definition, "an american of african descent"?
Powell Jr
as a little boy
with his mom and sister
with his mom again
His father
These people already identify as "black"...the ones who don't, can be whatever their features allow them to be. So for example, someone like Adam Clayton Powell Jr who was fair skinned came from free people of color who instilled and passed the AFram/black identity down to him...why should I deny him that identity when he was infact by definition, "an american of african descent"?
Powell Jr
as a little boy
with his mom and sister
with his mom again
His father
Are you biracial?
IllmaticDelta
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I can't believe this thread is tying to justify mix people who look white as black.
If they identify that way and are of African descent, why stop them?
Y'all even trying to claim white people who have one black grandparent as black.
It's not about %'s
My mother is at Abyssinian Baptist church right now. Tell the folks there that their former pastor Adam Clayton Powell Jr. (aka the man who literally brought congress to a 114th street in Harlem) wasn't black.
You'd be dragged within an inch of your life.
Whew, he had good taste, too. Hazel Scott was a beautiful woman
You'd be dragged within an inch of your life.
Whew, he had good taste, too. Hazel Scott was a beautiful woman
No
So you feel the need to Cape so hard why exactly?
In the UK if you have a white parent and a black parent then legally you are biracial, I just don't understand the need for this
if you're not AFAM and well versed in our history and culture, why would you understand it?
In the UK you have an old inbred family of rich white thieves, with a welfare Queen matriarch, that's still highly regarded. Who cares what your laws say?
People are free to identify as biracial in the US if they please. But the fact is, here, most with black parentage can and do also ID as African American.
Yes it's about percentage.If they identify that way and are of African descent, why stop them?
It's not about %'s
Black american like assigning black status to non whites wo do things for blacks. It's not a good look...he's still not a black man. And she's a beautiful woman. The more I look at aa history the more I see that even in black circles white people still are overly represented.in black leadership. The minutiae of black ancestry notwithstanding.My mother is at Abyssinian Baptist church right now. Tell the folks there that their former pastor Adam Clayton Powell Jr. (aka the man who literally brought congress to a 114th street in Harlem) wasn't black.
You'd be dragged within an inch of your life.
Whew, he had good taste, too. Hazel Scott was a beautiful woman
IllmaticDelta
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African descent
Aframs are a group/ethnicity rooted in Africa but born in America who were shaped by the shared experiences in America through slavery, black codes, jim crow laws and various other obstacles while being of African descent with a wide range of phenotypes.
The people that are Black/Aframs share a common bond through recent/acknowledged African descent combined with the shred experiences I listed above. Jews don't qualify
What white people? Those are black people
