The "1 Drop Rule" explained and how it's tied to AfroAmerican identity

[Yup]

So go away and your handle problems. Remember you geniuses sold blacks to the crackers FOR HUNDREDS of years. Your point or view is irrelvant.

Lol...ok

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Second; I am warning y'all that this one drop rule is more destructive today than it helps and I am explaining why and how? Y'all are not fighting white supremacy by claiming whites who identify as black.

Y'all are actually supporting it, without realizing. The one drop rule served it's purpose in 20th century America that it doesn't serve in 21st century America...and y'all see it in time, hopefully, before it is too late.

There is no enforced One Drop Rule today...people who are mixed but with African features aren't impacted by the rule to begin with. I posted this woman for context example...


Now take this "black/Afram" identified woman who looks white for example,

Danzy Senna

Before all of this radical ambiguity, I was a black girl. I fear even saying this. The political strong arm of the multiracial movement, affectionately known as the Mulatto Nation (just "M.N." for those in the know), decreed just yesterday that those who refuse to comply with orders to embrace their many heritages will be sent on the first plane to Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, where, the M.N.'s minister of defense said, "they might learn the true meaning of mestizo power."

But, with all due respect to the multiracial movement, I cannot tell a lie. I was a black girl. Not your ordinary black girl, if such a thing exists. But rather, a black girl with a Wasp mother and a black-Mexican father, and a face that harkens to Andalusia, not Africa. I was born in 1970, when "black" described a people bonded not by shared complexion or hair texture but by shared history.

Not only was I black (and here I go out on a limb), but I was an enemy of the people. The mulatto people, that is. I sneered at those byproducts of miscegenation who chose to identify as mixed, not black. I thought it wishy-washy, an act of flagrant assimilation, treason, passing even.

It was my parents who made me this way. In Boston circa 1975, mixed wasn't really an option. The words "A fight, a fight, a nikka and a white!" could be heard echoing from schoolyards during recess. You were either white or black. No checking "Other." No halvsies. No in-between. Black people, being the bottom of the social totem pole in Boston, were inevitably the most accepting of difference; they were the only race to come in all colors, and so there I found myself. Sure, I found myself. Sure, I received some strange reactions from all quarters when I called myself black. But black people usually got over their initial surprise and welcomed me into the ranks. It was white folks who grew the most uncomfortable with the dissonance between the face they saw and the race they didn't. Upon learning who I was, they grew paralyzed with fear that they might have "slipped up" in my presence, that is, said something racist, not knowing there was a negro in their midst. Often, they had.

Let it be clear -- my parents' decision to raise us as black wasn't based on any one-drop rule from the days of slavery, and it certainly wasn't based on our appearance, that crude reasoning many black-identified mixed people use: if the world sees me as black, I must be black. If it had been based on appearance, my sister would have been black, my brother Mexican, and me Jewish. Instead, my parents' decision arose out of the rising black power movement, which made identifying as black not a pseudoscientific rule but a conscious choice. You told us all along that we had to call ourselves black because of this so-called one drop. Now that we don't have to anymore, we choose to. Because black is beautiful. Because black is not a burden, but a privilege.

http://www.salon.com/1998/07/24/24feature_10/

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Oh really? What other "black" people follow the one drop rule? Tell me where outside of America is Wentworth Miller considered a black man by black people?

Latin American have the One Drop Rule in reverse (running from blackness to embrace whiteness) but at the same time you'll see people self identifying along the lines of how Aframs do (embracing blackness regardless of how non-stereotypical african they may appear). For many of these self identified Afro-Brazilians could call themslves anything but "black" based on the reverse One Drop Rule of brazil



Creator of TV program deemed racist invited to black awards ceremony; students of nation’s only black college repudiate the invitation

Caption: “My body is not a product on the shelf of your market” – “Sexo e as negas doesn’t represent me” – Unipalmares students and black women activists repudiate the “Sexo e as negas” program created by Miguel Falabella

Note from BW of Brazil: I must say that after reading the news last week I was little disgusted and disappointed. About what, you ask? Well, for the past few weeks, this blog has featured a number of articles detailing the controversy surrounding the new television series Sexo e as negas on Brazil’s most dominant TV network, Rede Globo. Black women across the country have repudiated the show and to stomp out the resistance, Globo is now resorting to the second step in its manipulation program: to deflect accusations of racism, well-known Afro-Brazilians are publicly announcing their support of the show. After all, if there are blacks who support the show, it can’t possibly be racist, right? Since then, a number of prominent black public have stepped forward and done just that. Yesterday on the blog you saw Grammy-nominated musician Carlinhos Brown voice his support for the show on a top (Globo) talk show. There have been others as well who will be featured in an upcoming post. And then there was the nation’s only predominantly black college opening its doors to the show’s creator.

Sexo e as negas creator Miguel Falabella announced last week that Faculdade Zumbi dos Palmares contacted him to participate in its annual Troféu Raça Negra award ceremony. It’s not clear exactly what this meant. The Troféu Raça Negra awards, something like the American Essence Awards or NAACP Awards (although it bills itself as the “Black Oscars”), presents awards to Afro-Brazilians of highlight in the year or those who contribute to the Afro-Brazilian cause. Was Falabella to receive an award? Present an award? Or have some sort of debate about race in the media? It’s still not clear. In my view, it doesn’t matter. How does the nation’s only predominantly black college whose aim is to address exclusion and racial inequality invite someone who many in the black community see as selling a highly racist, stereotypical representation of the black population to a wide audience? What is the message here? A white director can present the black population in any way that he chooses and the black population should still be thankful for this? Not feeling this action AT ALL!! And as it turns out, students at the college are not feeling it either!

Miguel Falabella is invited to Troféu Raça Negra after being accused of racism

Courtesy of Pure People



Miguel Falabella suffered criticism because of his new Globo TV program Sexo e as negas. The series, that debuted last Tuesday, the 16th, portrays the everyday lives of four friends in the Cidade Alta region of Cordovil, a community in the suburbs of Rio de Janeiro. On Thursday (18) of last week, in the meantime, the actor and director revealed in his Facebook profile that he had been invited to participate in Troféu Raça Negraawards ceremony and shared his happiness with his followers.

“I always believed in people. I finished my monologue Louro, Alto, Solteiro, Procura, reaffirming my belief in human beings and their terrible peculiarities; because we are capable of going back and looking at the same path with another vision. I ended up being invited by the Faculdade Zumbi dos Palmares to the Troféu Raça Negra and to debate reflectively the questions raised by Sexo e as negas. The intelligent voices started to express themselves. The negas in power,” wrote the director in the social network.

Even before the debut on TV, the author suffered criticism because of the title chosen and was the target of various protests by blacks that felt offended by the plot of the series, accusing him of making a stereotyped portrayal of the race. On Facebook, followers of Falabella criticized him.

“I’m already tired of this false representation of the black woman, these stereotypes portrayed in this miniseries don’t represent us! Stop with the term mulata, this is pejorative! Stop being a mockery, stop being portrayed as a sexual slave,” wrote one follower. “What is behind a production like this is an eternal imposition of putting and keeping blacks always in the subaltern place,” declared another.

In contrast to so many negative critiques, Miguel received support from other followers, sharing, among others, a text posted by the black actor Deiwis Jamaica, that participated in novelas like Em família and films like Tropa de Elite.


Actor Deiwis Jamaica (left) in a scene from the novela ‘Em família’ with actress Erika Januza

“I decided to say something because the sense of justice screamed inside of me. I cannot remain silent in the face of so many injuries and accusations. Because of being black, I was born and raised in the Cidade Alta of Cordovil community, I feel full ownership of the subject to report all that there is no bad faith, prejudice, racial discrimination or even the intention to stereotype black women,” wrote the actor.

“Let’s support this, that came out of the suburb and that is more than proving that the suburb has not left him. And for these and others always giving opportunities to black actors in such a hard job market. It’s more than time to forget this theme of ‘Historical Debts’. We blacks owe nothing to anyone, we do not have to feel persecuted,” he concluded.



Last Tuesday (16), protesters scrawled the term “racist” on the headquarters of Rede Globo in São Paulo. In a video published by Levante Popular da Juventude, you can see the damage to the front of the station and several people with banners and signs protesting the show.

Note from BW of Brazil: In the piece below, the news of the Falabella being invited to the awards ceremony that is connected to the directors of the Faculdade Zumbi dos Palmares college didn’t sit very well with students. Below is an expression of repudiation from students as well photos from black women students around the country that want Falabella and Globo TV to know that Sexo e as negas “doesn’t represent them”.

NO PRIZES FOR FALABELLA


Coletivo Mulheres Negras de Joinville, Santa Catarina (Black Women’s Collective of Joinville, Santa Catarina) also repudiates ‘Sexo e as negas’

I received this note of repudiation from Flávio, showing that the series Sexo e as negascontinues to provoke things to say: a college wants to reward Miguel Falabella.


Pretas Simoa, black women’s group from Cariri, Ceará

First of all, a little context. The Zumbi dos Palmares College is one of the arms of the Movimento Negro (black movement). It was born to be a “black university”, inspired by the Americans. Located in São Paulo, currently about 97% of its students are negrxs(black men and women). It is the only one in Latin America with this profile.


Maisa, Pedagogy student in Salvador, Bahia

The Faculdade Zumbi (Zumbi College) annually hands out the Troféu Raça Negra, rewarding black researchers and militants. This year one of the guests for the awards is the author and actor Miguel Falabella. The justification for his prize is that the institution wants to establish a dialogue with him about racial issues. Much of the Movimento Negro believes that Zumbi College is not adequate space to promote this dialogue.

Below is the letter of repudiation from the Pedagogy department (all pictures in this post were taken from the National Boycott page on Facebook, which already has almost 31,000 likes):

“The students and teachers of Pedagogy of Zumbi dos Palmares College 2014, collectively organized and gathered on the date of September 22, 2014, to formalize a vehement repudiation of the invite made by the directors of Zumbi dos Palmares College to the actor and director Miguel Falabella. As most of our group is formed by black women, we understand that the show Sex e as negas re-enforce racist stereotypes that relegate black women to the role of sexual object and due to this, we do not feel represented in, but to the contrary, disrespected.


Eliane, Pedagogue

We emphasize that the understanding of black woman transmitted by the production goes against all the guiding principles of affirmative action policies won by the struggle of the Movimento Negro (Black Movement) in Brazil, these principles that address reparation, recognition and appreciation of the black population. We are black and non-black men and women in the quest for a just, fair and equal education and therefore defend our right to make use of these conquests and condemn and punish any act of racism.


Paula, Pedagogy student in Belo Horizonte, Minas Gerais

This ideology acts as a constructing mechanism of distorted images of the black population, linking different Eurocentric symbolic elements to justify and validate the ranking among humans. Racism seeps into all spaces, echoing ideas that mutilate the possibilities of existence, building lives incarcerated within a subaltern survival. For the realization of this process, numerous everyday actions densifies stereotypes, setting pre-established destinations for black children, black women and black men.


Nathalia, Social Sciences student at UFSC (Federal University of Santa Catarina in Florianópolis, Santa Catarina)

Racist TV productions need not be debated, but punished in an exemplary manner conforming to the Brazilian Federal Constitution. Our role as educators is to denounce the explicit racism in this and other negative works to the construction of an egalitarian education. Our comprehension of education understands that we have the institutional duty to echo the voices of those who are rarely heard and represented in our society, and not bringing visibility and awareness to public figures that disqualify our banners of struggle.


There are already 117 complaints against ‘Sexo e as negas’

We strengthen the right to respect and legitimate representation of black actors and actresses, of black men and women in movements of struggle and resistance as workers, students, mothers, daughters, teachers, lawyers, administrators and advertisers among others. We finalize by demanding respect!”

Source: Escreva Lola Escreva

http://escrevalolaescreva.blogspot.com.br/2014/09/guest-post-sem-premios-para-falabella.html

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Prodigy's great grand was a pro black quadroon?
Interesting.

Nothing unique about that in Afram history

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Keep deluding yourself. Perhsps if you say it 100 times you may convince yourself.

I am not impressed by whites calling themselves black.

me neither....which is why I made it clear that fair skinned afroeuropeans who identify as "black" aren't the same as WHITE PEOPLE who want to identify as "black". One more time for ya....

WHITE GUY who passed for "black"

Mezz Mezzrow

Mezzrow praised and admired the African-American style. In his autobiography Really The Blues, Mezzrow writes that from the moment he heard jazz he "was going to be a Negro musician, hipping [teaching] the world about the blues the way only Negroes can."

Mezzrow married a black woman, Mae (also known as Johnnie Mae), moved to Harlem, and declared himself a "voluntary Negro." In 1940 he was caught by the police to be in possession of sixty joints trying to enter a jazz club at the New York World's Fair, with intent to distribute. When he was sent to jail, he insisted to the guards that he was black and was transferred to the segregated prison's black section. He wrote (in Really the Blues):

"Just as we were having our pictures taken for the rogues' gallery, along came Mr. Slattery the deputy and I nailed him and began to talk fast. 'Mr. Slattery,' I said, 'I'm colored, even if I don't look it, and I don't think I'd get along in the white blocks, and besides, there might be some friends of mine in Block Six and they'd keep me out of trouble'. Mr. Slattery jumped back, astounded, and studied my features real hard. He seemed a little relieved when he saw my nappy head. 'I guess we can arrange that,' he said. 'Well, well, so you're Mezzrow. I read about you in the papers long ago and I've been wondering when you'd get here. We need a good leader for our band and I think you're just the man for the job'. He slipped me a card with 'Block Six' written on it. I felt like I'd got a reprieve."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mezz_Mezzrow



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Fair skinned descendant of african slaves

 

[IllmaticDelta]

That's arguable if it made y'all stronger. But if I had to pick between the latino system vs the aa system id pick the latter. But really, it's just me picking the lesser of the two evils.

Waaayyy better than those Latin American color lines



'Blanqueamiento' in Puerto Rico

Under Spanish and American rule, Puerto Rico underwent a whitening process or "blanqueamiento". Puerto Rico went from being two-thirds black and mulatto in the beginning of the 19th century, to being nearly 80% white by the middle of the 20th century, which was largely due to the Royal Decree of Graces of 1815 and the Regla del Sacar laws.[4][5][18][19][20] Under Spanish rule, Puerto Rico had laws such as Regla del Sacar or Gracias al Sacar, which made persons of mixed African-European ancestry to be classified as white, which was the opposite of "one-drop rule" in US society after the American Civil War.[38][39] Though, most Puerto Ricans self-identify as white, few are of purely European ancestry, with many also having Taino and African ancestry present.[38][40][41][42][43][44] Studies have shown that the ancestry of the "average" white Puerto Rican person is about 64% European, 21% African, and 15% Taino/Amerindian, with European ancestry strongest on the west side of the island, African ancestry strongest on the east side, and consistent levels of Taino ancestry throughout the island.[45] In fact, even though 75% of Puerto Ricans self-identify as white, it is estimated only about 25% are of nearly pure European ancestry with little to no non-European admixture.[46][47][48]

AA did not create the one drop rule it was enforced on y'all. Y'all made it work for you

We were already using it before it was an actual rule.

But I repeat, today it looks more like a joke than an actual concept that can be taken seriously.

It's not a rule today. Fair skinned people that identify as "black" today do so, not because someone is forcing them but because it's the common bond/shared experiences with their AfroEuropean kin.

 

[Yup]

me neither....which is why I made it clear that fair skinned afroeuropeans who identify as "black" aren't the same as WHITE PEOPLE who want to identify as "black". One more time for ya....

WHITE GUY who passed for "black"

Mezz Mezzrow



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mezz_Mezzrow



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Stilk doesn't change what I said earlier. The man passed for a white man because he is a white man.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Stilk doesn't change what I said earlier. The man passed for a white man because he is a white man.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

"how his
people are viewed. "In this country," he said, "if you are not quite white, then you are black." But in Brazil, he said, "If you are not quite black, then you are white.""

One drop rule in America>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>no blacks rule in latin america

Say it loud, im black and im proud>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>me no black papi

 

[Michael9100]

 

[Yup]

"how his
people are viewed. "In this country," he said, "if you are not quite white, then you are black." But in Brazil, he said, "If you are not quite black, then you are white.""

One drop rule in America>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>no blacks rule in latin america

Say it loud, im black and im proud>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>me no black papi

And I gurantee you most of the people that are so outraged at the one drop rule are either half-breeds, parents of half-breeds, ugly, low self-esteemed, dark skinned chicks that feel some type of way about light skinned girls, and non-american blacks who think Americans actually still give a shyt about the one drop rule, why did the internet dig up the fukkin one drop rule of all things though?no one talks about that shyt in real life

African Americans don't give a shyt about the one drop rule, it's nothing more than a long forgotten elementary history lesson to us

And no one gives a shyt about bi-racials, my concern is with the blacks who come from black parents and black grandparents who have some european ancestry being pushed away, which is virtually all of us, yall act like this is fukkin Angola or Senegal, we ain't 100% black our damn selves. You have Africans who tell us we aren't really black, then want to turn around ridicule us for accepting "mixed"(not bi-racial) blacks

I agree that the way of aa is better (marginally) than latinos. But what I have noticed is there is a large group of black americans(male or female but especially male) that pose as black concious/militant/pro black but are really not. It is just a facade...and if nearly white people can claim to be black what is the basis of blacks claiming black pride. I don't think it is a coincidence that many black rights activist end up with non black or ambiguous looking partners. But shout to the rooftop their black pride. It becomes really contrived and you start to wonder who they're trying to fool. Under the veneer of black pride there still exist shadeism/self hatred/discrimination. This is just as foul as latinos distancing themselves from their black lineage. Just one group consist of hypocrites and the other is brutally honest with how they feel about their black lineage. Different angles but the result is not much different; the lighter you are, the more opportunities you have, the less threatening you seem, and the more priviledge you are likely to have which manifests itself differently between the gender. In women it's desirability and likelyhood of being married and settling down and in men is higher consideration for leadership and high position outside of entertainment/sports/music.

Point blank, black americans like to brag about their pride in blackness as opposed to latinos. But based on my own obversation, you put aside the fake activists and you start to see that black americans aren't that far ahead. Personal opinion.

 

[Red Shield]

The only thing undoing us is a lack of capital.

 

[Red Shield]

Just got done reading through this shyt...
This thread is fukking nuts.. seriously fukking nuts. The strongest of the diaspora and we're circling the damn drain...

We really are Reek

 

[Yup]

Just got done reading through this shyt...
This thread is fukking nuts.. seriously fukking nuts. The strongest of the diaspora and we're circling the damn drain...

We really are Reek

Honestly, it's really sad but I am holding out hope that it is a select few with this mindset.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Honestly, it's really sad but I am holding out hope that it is a select few with this mindset.

You could only have these people with these phenotypes screaming "black power" and "black is beautiful" in America.

...it's the same reason you have fair skinned blacks. I love this mindset