Terrible crap going down in Burma

[GetInTheTruck]

"The Jewish situation is not our problem. Thus we are demanding that all German Jews in America be deported back to Germany immediately or we will hunt them down and kill them all. Let Germany do what Germany has to do. Why is that such a reprehensible position to hold? We're in the middle of a depression, we already have enough shyt to worry about, and now we're supposed to take on the Jewish baggage? To serve whose interests?"

GetInTheTruck, 1937


Can you point out ONE thing that makes what you are saying right now different from the people who denied the Jews entry and forced them to return to Germany to be slaughtered?

Hell, what you caping for is WORSE than what they did. At least they let the Jews who were already here stay. You not just talking about closing borders to people facing a genocide, you straight caping for India actively deporting the ones already in the country TO the nation that's slaughtering them.

Be more racist than 1930s America, brehs.

Of course, the inevitable comparison to Hitler and Nazi Germany. That train is never late but wait, there's a twist...now the Burmese are actually WORSE than Hitler based on....wait for it.....absolutely NOTHING.



On the one hand you portray India as this dark and intolerant place for non-Hindus, particularly Muslims, but on the other you are campaigning for the demand that India take in these people and give them shelter. What sane person would advocate for an oppressor to house those whom they supposedly target for oppression? If India is really that dangerous a place for Muslims to live, you should be advocating the opposite, ie; an exodus. The reason why you aren't is because you know you are full of shyt.

India has already divided two opposite sides of the country for the sole purpose of giving Muslims their own living spaces. Now you want them to give up more? When will it end? The answer is seemingly never. I support Indians looking out for the interests of it's majority population, who are Hindus, just like I support the Burmese looking out for the interests of it's majority population, who are Buddhists. Both know full well how destructive Islam as an ideology can be and they are moving forward accordingly.

Just a month ago I met a Bengali Muslim client at my job, he asked me if I was Bengali and when I said no and told him where my family is from in India (Karnataka), his eyes lit up and he went on to tell me how he went to school there and even knows some of my families language (Kannada), and started speaking to me in it. He had nothing but positive things to say. This is a guy whose wife was decked out in full covering, complete with niqab (face covering.) I immediately thought of how taken aback I was the last time I went to India and saw so many Muslim women in complete covering shopping alone in the markets, because even I let the media dictate my perception sometimes....but it's everyday experiences like this that remind me how full of shyt people like you are.

...and just to contrast, I have never met a non-Muslim tell me how great it was to stay, live, and practice their religion in a Muslim country. And both you and I know why that is.

 

[GetInTheTruck]

Wait, do you expect people not to read your articles that you post?

"Tens of thousands of Rohingya have been forcibly confined in deplorable conditions in Sittwe, whilst there is evidence that the ethnic cleansing perpetrated under the military government amounts to genocide."

I read the article champ. Nobody is saying things are pretty over there, but if it were truly a "genocide" an article like this wouldn't feel the need to offer a balanced perspective, it would join in the outrage and condemnation. There is nuance here, and people like you who have already taken a side and expect the Burmese to just follow suit, are guilty of ignoring it:

At stake are issues of legitimacy. The international community’s use of the term ‘Rohingya’ validates the narrative of essentializing a Muslim identity in Rakhine state. In the most conservative terms, we can say that scholars of Rohingya history have not understood this to conclusively be the case.

That's talking about you.

Moron, even the balanced article that YOU posted called it genocide.

You're caping for fukking genocide, and your excuse is, "Well look, sure some of those Muslims have been there for 1200 years, but a lot of them have only been there 50-100 years. So why not ethnic cleansing?"

You can scream that I am supporting genocide from the rooftops all you want, it wont make it so.

Why aren't you advocating the Muslim Ummah give these people shelter. After all it's only a measly million or so people. Why are Muslim countries always off the hook in times like this? Hindus and Buddhists are oppressing Muslims, in your opinion, yet you feel that they should be obligated to care and shelter these people. Again, this is a logical inconsistency.

There are 50 million Buddhists in Burma and only 1 million Rohingya. Claiming that Burma will "compromise its national identity" if it didn't deny Rohingya citizenship and try to ethnically cleanse them is some bullshyt. It's like the people who banned Chinese immigration in the 1800s because they were all going to take over.

By the simple fact that you have a dressed up narrative, as demonstrated above, and expect the Burmese to adhere to its standards, is itself an effort compromise the national identity of the Burmese. Let the Burmese decide what is good for the Burmese. Buddhism is already a much "smaller religion" in comparison to Islam, and Islam's bloody history in the region is well documented. They have every right to secure it.

 

[GetInTheTruck]

Don't forget, his exact claim in the past is that The Coli is too racist towards White men but worships White women.

india

the shyt hands are serial perverts/weirdos.

That country is a shyt hole and I feel for any woman living there.

Did not read the op but it is a scientific and recorded fact that India is the dirtiest place on earth occupied by people who long ago have given up their humanity to become living abominations of walking filth.

That place is a shyt hole, and all the men over there deserve to be burned alive.

Nuke india.

Dahell going on in India: Indian police arrest 15 in gang-rape of mother & daughter

I mean this is just a handful of comments from one thread, I could sit here all day and quote the racist shyt coli posters say about Indians that the mods let slide, but what would be the point? I have no interest in seeing people banned or whatever, I prefer lax rules on conversation, I just don't like hypocrisy. The coli has a thread about India pretty frequently and it's always filled with comments like this or even worse, even from mods. Other ethnic groups are attacked on the reg too, like latinos and asians. So yes, this is one of the most racist forums on the internet. I don't really give a fukk because I still enjoy posting here, but what I won't accept or tolerate is you trying to portray ME as some type of racist in light of the facts.

The quotes you cited from me are in response to coli posters constantly portraying Indians as "white worshiping" c00ns, and how Indian men allegedly worship white women. I was pointing towards the notion that by that logic, Black people can easily be accused of the same thing, and that this site ironically popularized PAWG, a term of endearment directed towards white women, hence the reference to "glass houses." Do you have a problem with this assessment?

 

[Ya Sinning Mane]

the bs never stops

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Of course, the inevitable comparison to Hitler and Nazi Germany. That train is never late but wait, there's a twist...now the Burmese are actually WORSE than Hitler based on....wait for it.....absolutely NOTHING.

Why do you always need to lie about my arguments? Isn't that a sign that you know you'd lose on the facts?

I NEVER said the Burmese were worse than the Nazis. I said that what you were caping for, deporting all the Indian Rohingya back to Burma when they face ethnic cleansing and potential genocide there, is worse than what America did when they refused to take in Jews and sent them back to Germany in the late thirties.

I challenged you to defend that, and you couldn't. You just bytched about Nazi comparisons (sorry, but people who cape for ethnic cleansing bring that on themselves), and then lied about what I had said.

On the one hand you portray India as this dark and intolerant place for non-Hindus, particularly Muslims, but on the other you are campaigning for the demand that India take in these people and give them shelter.

Bullshyt, I have NEVER said anything like that about India in general. In fact, the first time I talked about the experience of foreigners in India, you AGREED with everything I said and said my opinion was fair. I got receipts for that.

All I have said is that the current government in power encourages such racist sentiments, and occasion pointed out specific problems on context. Saying that Trump and the current Republicans are racist doesn't mean that people still won't want to come to America.

You didn't used to be this way. You used to have a much fairer, balanced attitude. But we tend to slowly become like those we cape for, and since you started caping for Hindu Supremacists, you've began taking more and more extreme stances in alignment with them...to the point of actually praising Burma's ethnic cleansing AND encouraging India to deport people already living in its country to a place where they face genocide.

 

[The Fukin Prophecy]

Why aren't you advocating the Muslim Ummah give these people shelter. After all it's only a measly million or so people. Why are Muslim countries always off the hook in times like this? Hindus and Buddhists are oppressing Muslims, in your opinion, yet you feel that they should be obligated to care and shelter these people. Again, this is a logical inconsistency.

I wouldn't say they are off the hook in times like this, they simply don't care...

Sand CAC Muslims never take responsibility for anything...

They're always stuck in a perpetual state of and when you ask them to take care of other Muslims, especially black and asian Muslims...The reason for it is same white supremacist mentality as Trump and his pasty brethren in the states have...They don't want to "muddy" their pastiness...

You even have to bribe the sand CAC to take in their own people like Germany did with Turkey and they still treat those people like complete utter shyt which is why they end up risking their lives fleeing on make shift rafts...It's why Afghani's rather risk their lives traveling through war torn rugged terrain to get to europe than go to border sharing Iran...

Anyways I had a feeling there was a lot more to this Burma story than the lower learning sand cac defense force wanted to post...

It's a fukked up situation anyway you look at it but I fully support India's position...

 

[GetInTheTruck]

I wouldn't say they are off the hook in times like this, they simply don't care...

Sand CAC Muslims never take responsibility for anything...

They're always stuck in a perpetual state of and when you ask them to take care of other Muslims, especially black and asian Muslims...The reason for it is same white supremacist mentality as Trump and his pasty brethren in the states have...They don't want to "muddy" their pastiness...

You even have to bribe the sand CAC to take in their own people like Germany did with Turkey and they still treat those people like complete utter shyt which is why they end up risking their lives fleeing on make shift rafts...It's why Afghani's rather risk their lives traveling through war torn rugged terrain to get to europe than go to border sharing Iran...

Anyways I had a feeling there was a lot more to this Burma story than the lower learning sand cac defense force wanted to post...

It's a fukked up situation anyway you look at it but I fully support India's position...

Exactly.

The troubling fact is that where ever Muslims are a significant minority, there is always civil unrest that follows including rioting and violence. They just can't seem live peacefully with other people, period. India and Burma are simply recognizing this ugly reality and looking out for their own interests. What benefits will granting outright citizenship to these people give to the Burmese? The answer is none.

After India gained it's independence Muslims reneged on their promises and immediately demanded their own states on opposite sides of the country, this naturally didn't go over well with the majority of the population who are Hindus. They got what they wanted and yet still it's not enough. It will never be enough.

 

[GetInTheTruck]

Why do you always need to lie about my arguments? Isn't that a sign that you know you'd lose on the facts?

I NEVER said the Burmese were worse than the Nazis. I said that what you were caping for, deporting all the Indian Rohingya back to Burma when they face ethnic cleansing and potential genocide there, is worse than what America did when they refused to take in Jews and sent them back to Germany in the late thirties.

I challenged you to defend that, and you couldn't. You just bytched about Nazi comparisons (sorry, but people who cape for ethnic cleansing bring that on themselves), and then lied about what I had said.

How am I lying about your arguments? You just said that "what I am caping for" is worse than what the Nazi's did When are you losers going to stop using Jews and Nazis as fodder to advance your shytty agendas? It's way past corny at this point.

Why don't you cape for the numerous Islamic nations that routinely engage in acts of intolerance towards their virtually non-existent religious minorities to take in these poor people? Wasn't Bangladesh created for this very purpose? Muslims already ethnically cleansed themselves from the rest of the population when they demanded their own states and got them, dividing the region and causing nothing but problems that linger on till today. Now you want to lay all those problems down at the feet of Hindus and Buddhists who want nothing more than to define their own national identities for a change. Get off India and Burma's dikk. How about that?

 

[GetInTheTruck]

Here is an account from a Burmese woman from a few years ago, before this issue recently became glamorized in the international media. She tells the story about how these supposedly "peaceful and persecuted" Rohingya mobs broke into her home and killed her family.



It's only after shyt like this consistently happening that the Buddhist lay population decided enough is enough and took up arms to defend their own. Before some of you fall for the "genocide" narrative hook, line, and sinker, you should look a little deeper into the issue. The Burmese were being hunted and killed in their own land, and since Buddhism has always had the stigma of being a "pacifist" religion, they were seen as food by these mobs and militant groups. They finally flipped the switch and started to defend themselves. Now these dudes getting their asses beat and handled and are running behind the skirt of the international media for support.

 

[Calmye]

Man this is sad. Why doesn't the US invest more in places like this?

 

[ADevilYouKhow]

 

[egsteel]

It'll be a game changer when Isis finally pulls up.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

How am I lying about your arguments? You just said that "what I am caping for" is worse than what the Nazi's did

No I did NOT say that.

That's what makes you a fukking liar. The number of times you have found it necessary to lie like this in arguments with me is ridiculous.

Here is an account from a Burmese woman from a few years ago, before this issue recently became glamorized in the international media.

I can't believe you are actually so stupid to fall for this bullshyt.

This isn't a new issue that suddenly became "glamorized" in the international media. EVERYONE has known that the Burmese have had a brutal military junta running their country ever since General Ne Win led the military coup back in 1962 and then massacred students en masse when they tried to protest. This isn't new info, this isn't secret info. This has BEEN a brutal military junta ever since it was founded, has been persecuting minorities for 50 years, and there have been international sanctions against the country going back decades. Here is the report on their genocidal "four cuts" policies going back to 1984 and explaining why there are always so many refugees from Burma. You really have to engage in bullshyt historical revisionism to make it out like people have suddenly made up the fact that Burma has a brutal, minority-persecuting government.

And it ain't just Muslims. The Karen, Karenni, Mon, Wa and Shan have ALL faced persecution. The #1 group of refugees to the United States over the last 10 years has been CHRISTIANS from Burma. There are over 4,000,000 refugees from Burma right now....but the half-million of those that are Muslim are the ones making it all up? India has over 100,000 Burmese refugees right now....but the minority of those who are Muslim are the ones who supposedly brought it all on themselves?

I already proved to you that even the Indian government's own reports say that Rohingya in India have not been a terrorism or criminal threat. I've given you one cite after another that proved that Burma has been oppressing its own people for decades. And your counter to all those official statistics and reports is....a single story that someone put up as propaganda on Youtube?

Be serious about this man. You weren't always like this. I can pull up multiple quotes from 2013 where you used to be fair-minded and even-handed, talked like you actually had a clue. Now you just cape for brutality like a Trump stan.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

The Burmese were being hunted and killed in their own land, and since Buddhism has always had the stigma of being a "pacifist" religion, they were seen as food by these mobs and militant groups. They finally flipped the switch and started to defend themselves. Now these dudes getting their asses beat and handled and are running behind the skirt of the international media for support.

Such stupid, stupid bullshyt propaganda.

I refuse to believe you could be that ignorant to believe such bullshyt. Did you know literally nothing about Burma until last year? Burma's ultaviolent government and millions of refugees that have resulted have been a major international story for DECADES.

This country was literally run by a military junta for 50+ years, with any protests against them, even by students, shut down with violence over and over again.

The receipts for this shyt go back decades:

Human rights in Myanmar - Wikipedia

Tatmadaw - Wikipedia

School for Rape | EarthRights International

Exploiting Thailand's Burmese Refugees: The Children of the Mae Sot Dump - SPIEGEL ONLINE - International

On July 7, 1962, the military regime violently suppressed a student demonstration at Rangoon University attended by some 2,000 students with military forces resulting in the death of more than a hundred and the arrest of more than 3,000 students according to unofficial but reliable sources. However, official government statements put the death toll at 15. In the morning hours of the next day, the military regime blew up the historic Rangoon University Student Union (RUSU) building, which had been the symbol of the anti-colonial nationalism struggle since the 1920s.

Yeah, this "pacifist" religion and their tame government has just been "seen as food" for so long, right?

 

[GetInTheTruck]

@The Dankster

It's funny how you had no problem with my posts back when I was defending Muslims and would refrain from any criticism of Islam and political Islam (even though I always had internal reservations), now that I have adjusted my views a bit all of a sudden I support genocide? Based on what?

The bottom line is the "Rohingya" are a manufactured ethnicity of a political nature, the Burmese government has no obligation to recognize them. They are Bengali Muslims who had plotted for years to make Arakan an Islamic state and have them annexed to become a part of "east Pakistan," they have made their bed and are now lying in it. They wanted an Islamic state so bad, let them go live in one. If Bangladesh cannot accommodate them well that sucks, those are the breaks. It is unfortunate for all parties involved, but this is what political Islam breeds everywhere on the planet it rears it's ugly head, it should be dealt with accordingly without the use of kid gloves. The Burmese are native to that land, the so-called "Rohingya" are not. They are simply a people who now have nowhere to go because of the greed and stupidity of their so-called leaders. Hitch your wagon to shyt don't be surprised when you get led into a shytty situation.

After Burma gained independence the "Mujaheed" party made all types of absurd demands from the Burmese. Why should the Burmese give any group who are self-proclaimed jihadists anything?

It's funny you bring up Thailand, a neighbor of Burma which is dealing with it's own Muslim insurgency. Are the Burmese wrong to take note of that? Why is everywhere Muslims are a minority fertile ground for ethnic strife, conflict, and insurgency? Is it wrong to ask these questions?

Why do you never have anything to say about Muslim violence? Why are you always quick to take the sides of Muslim extremists and sympathize with them? Like I said, you have an agenda breh. shyt is wild corny. You stay trying to bring up what I used to believe...I can adjust my views because I'm not a fukking zombie ideologue.

The questions you need to answer before running your mouth off about anything is:

WHY CAN'T ANYBODY SEEM TO GET ALONG WITH MUSLIMS?

WHY DO MUSLIMS ALWAYS DEMAND THEIR OWN TERRITORY IN ANY COUNTRY WHERE THEY BECOME A SIGNIFICANT MINORITY?

WHY ARE ISLAMIC NATIONS NEVER ASKED TO ACCOMMODATE MUSLIM REFUGEES?

AT WHAT POINT DO WE START TO COME AROUND TO THE FACT THAT ISLAM MAY BE THE PROBLEM?

Until you can answer these honestly, shut the fukk up.