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And he couldn't sustain a damn thing.

The guy drew a 1.8 in Oct. '96. One of the lowest public (Post-'95) RAW ratings in the history of the program. There was a damn good reason why the belt was put on Sid. Why Royal Rumble '97 was one of the most papered shows in history in Shawn's own fukking hometown. They guy just wasn't a draw at all.

Now come with some hard show attendance averages or stop typing. I gave you the TV averages which proved that Bret got better cumulative ratings. Prove me wrong on the attendance front.

bret was duckin out waiting for him to fail too, that's the funny thing. then he comes back and expects to be paid the remainder of his contract :pachaha:

son please, the numbers are out there. Meltzer has gone on and on about how house show numbers improved under Michaels reign. Yes, TV ratings decreased from April 1996 to October 1996. Gee I wonder why :pachaha: :nwo: ... plus HBK supporting cast was a$$hole in summer '96. Peep how the ratings boomed after the title win though, through June when the NWO started.


son you need to study up on the business before you come at me. Vince chose HBK The God for a reason, and it's not because his swag was so unbearable for you squares that you had to come up with conspiracy theories. It was because of the cold hard numbers HBK was putting up compared to anyone since Hogan. Selling more tickets. Selling more merch.

If you aren't an Observer subscriber, go ahead and read some of those back issues. HBK drew more live attendance than anyone since the Hogan/Savage era and that's a fact jack.
 

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bret was duckin out waiting for him to fail too, that's the funny thing. then he comes back and expects to be paid the remainder of his contract :pachaha:

son please, the numbers are out there. Meltzer has gone on and on about how house show numbers improved under Michaels reign. Yes, TV ratings decreased from April 1996 to October 1996. Gee I wonder why :pachaha: :nwo:


son you need to study up on the business before you come at me. Vince chose HBK The God for a reason, and it's not because his swag was so unbearable for you squares that you had to come up with conspiracy theories. It was because of the cold hard numbers HBK was putting up compared to anyone since Hogan. Selling more tickets. Selling more merch.

If you aren't an Observer subscriber, go ahead and read some of those back issues. HBK drew more live attendance than anyone since the Hogan/Savage era and that's a fact jack.

I'm going to put this in big, bold letters so you can stop trolling, stop with your pointless, goal post moving soliloquies and actually live up to a request the same way I lived up to yours:

PRODUCE SOME fukkING NUMBERS

Since you're the expert on all things that Meltzer has written and compiled on this subject. Prove me wrong if I'm so ontologically mistaken. You better hope I don't find numbers that prove me right again.
 

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I'm going to put this in big, bold letters so you can stop trolling, stop with your pointless, goal post moving soliloquies and actually live up to a request the same way I lived up to yours:

PRODUCE SOME fukkING NUMBERS

Since you're the expert on all things that Meltzer has written and compiled on this subject. Prove me wrong if I'm so ontologically mistaken. You better hope I don't find numbers that prove me right again.


Why should I produce anything when the numbers are out there, ready available on the internet? You're a big boy you can look it up. I'm not paid to look up numbers for you. Lol @ you typing in big font all caps, dog you're angry as fukk. Shawn upped the house shows. Meltzer confirms that. If he didn't, the backlash would be much stronger. Smarten up.
 

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Shawn Michaels was a horrible draw...dont ever bring that up:laugh: Stick to the Vince gimmick of him being some great performer because thats where it ends. If he was a truly great anything, there would of been no need for Austin or Tyson.
 

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Shawn Michaels was a horrible draw...dont ever bring that up:laugh: Stick to the Vince gimmick of himbeing some great performer because thats where it ends. If he was a truly great anything, there would of been no need for Austin or Tyson.

He drew more butts to seats than Bret did. According to Meltzer. I don't know how to explain this more clearly without digging up old Observers and posting the numbers. (Observers cost money, this is not a charity)
 

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Yikes guys, if you're too cheap to look up old Observers, just look at it objectively as a layman. Look at Monday Night Raws in 1994-95 compared to 1996.
 

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I mean, it's out there. Why would I make this up when any paying Observer reader could prove me wrong? They can't, I'm right when it comes to this. Shawn's house show numbers were the best since '92. Simple as that. Go order some back issues.
 

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Yikes guys, if you're too cheap to look up old Observers, just look at it objectively as a layman. Look at Monday Night Raws in 1994-95 compared to 1996.

:what: What does this even mean?

Listen, here's a rule of debate. When you say "look at x" as a key element buttressing your argument, then someone challenges you directly on it, the onus is NOT on the second person to produce anything. It's on you, who got the gauntlet thrown back in his face. Especially when the situation was reversed and I produced numbers.

You fail debate, you fail rhetoric, you fail this argument. I don't care anymore. Troll someone else.
 

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:what: What does this even mean?

Listen, here's a rule of debate. When you say "look at x" as a key element buttressing your argument, then someone challenges you directly on it, the onus is NOT on the second person to produce jack. Especially when the situation was reversed and I produced numbers.

You fail debate, you fail rhetoric, you fail this argument. I don't care anymore. Troll someone else.


I'm not going to produce something here that is copyright infringement. If you care that much, go pay $5 per issue of back issue Observers and read the proof. Shawn's house show numbers >>> Bret's. Simple as that, case closed.
 

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I'm not going to produce something here that is copyright infringement. If you care that much, go pay $5 per issue of back issue Observers and read the proof.

Then your argument is meaningless. You're appealing to a phantom source. It's the same as making up a reference in a paper, essentially.

There's nothing to argue here if you "won't" or "can't" correctly cite a source for anything.
 

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I just realized what thread we're in. I now understand the butthurt that TrueEpic must be feeling, when Bret's own flesh and blood is shytting all over him. Yikes breh. Good luck with that Natty push. :pachaha:
 

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I mean, it's out there. Why would I make this up when any paying Observer reader could prove me wrong? They can't, I'm right when it comes to this. Shawn's house show numbers were the best since '92. Simple as that. Go order some back issues.

I didnt say you were a liar. I said Meltzer will confirm that Michaels on top led the WWE to bad financial times and them needing a true draw like Austin.
 
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