Tech Industry job layoffs looking scary

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That was the first one that came to mind for me too, just because cheating culture there is so wild.

This is a real picture of a test examination center in India during an exam. Those guys on the outside are literally scaling the walls of the building to pass stolen test answers to the students on the inside.

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Think of all the layers that have to happen to get to that point. How do they get the answers in the first place? Why is it so easy for so many people to get the fake answers? How much did they bribe the cops outside to allow them to climb the walls without repercussions? What about the people paid to proctor the tests inside? And why does government do absolutely nothing when every person in the society knew it was going on?



This was another one. The "topper" of the Political Science exams in Bihar (meaning she got the #1 score in the entire state) didn't even know the name of the subject or what it was about. She called it "Prodigal Science" and said it studied how to make food. :laff:





The only reason I paused before saying India.....wouldn't the Chinese applicants be doing this too? And the Thais, the Bangladeshis, and everyone else?


Oh, it's not that they're getting the answers to the interviews, they're literally having someone else remote desktop into their interview session and write the code while the person being interviewed is "pretending" to write the code during the screen share. Some interviewers can catch it, some can't and some will ignore it (nepotism). The Reddit post is mainly talking about them cheating during the job interview's technical assessment.

You look at a company like Qualcomm 30% of their workforce is from India (can be verified on Linkedin). That is wild.

shyt is a big reason why the interview process for tech is broken.

China is more legit: 40% of the Global top 200 and 30% of the top 1000 rankings are from China. I think the youngest "grand master" in the world is a 14 year old Chinese kid. For the most part, they're widely considered P4P the best at these things. China is more of a powerhouse when it comes to the EE/Hardware field though that's the field we outsource the most to them.

Software-wise I don't think they or anyone else will take it over from India who'll basically shut them out of the jobs anyways like they do to us here :camby:

China, Singapore, Eastern Europe and the United States (a few of the top names on Code Forces are M.I.T students) run the table at the very top for these coding competitions/Leetcode rankings but it's funny to see all the jobs go to people from India :stopitslime:
 
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Well, "separated" by Accenture Federal Services due to 'performance'. Never received a PIP or anything other than personal feedback and that was a year ago. AKA, I was laid off as a part of budget cuts.

I have a two weeks notice so . and a WHOLE 2 WEEKS PAY after that as a part of my 'severance package"
 

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Oh, it's not that they're getting the answers to the interviews,

I think you misread me. I was describing the audacity of the cheating process that led to those pictures back in India, not here.



China is more legit: 40% of the Global top 200 and 30% of the top 1000 rankings are from China. I think the youngest "grand master" in the world is a 14 year old Chinese kid, which is wild. For the most part, they're widely considered P4P the best at these things.

I don't see how having the best coders makes people from that country immune to cheating. That's like saying that Black sprinters are the best, therefore they don't use steroids. China has 1.5 billion people and 90% of their coders aren't going to be among those elites, so they still have plenty of people who are incentivized to cheat.

I'm not doubting that India is the cheating king, I'm just not thinking that having a superior national elite in the field makes other countries immune.
 

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I think you misread me. I was describing the audacity of the cheating process that led to those pictures back in India, not here.





I don't see how having the best coders makes people from that country immune to cheating. That's like saying that Black sprinters are the best, therefore they don't use steroids. China has 1.5 billion people and 90% of their coders aren't going to be among those elites, so they still have plenty of people who are incentivized to cheat.

I'm not doubting that India is the cheating king, I'm just not thinking that having a superior national elite in the field makes other countries immune.
shyt I think you got to have ridiculous audacity to be on an interview with FAANG, Nvidia, Qualcomm, and Fortune 500 companies while you're having someone else do the work during a screen share while you're pretending to type :mjlol:

Even more dumb is when they get the job after doing that.

No doubt China cheats like every country does but they also score higher than most other countries on average and at the top of these things. India is ass at these competitions so when they start acing technical interviews like nothing, that looks ridiculous.

I don't really have qualms with these other countries because nobody takes as many tech jobs from people here in the states like India does. Companies out here cutting down on remote work but outsourcing remote jobs to India, shyt is lame af.
 
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EEOC Report Reveals Focus on STEM Industries

Within the high tech workforce, the EEOC reports that 40.1% identify as workers of color, but Black and Hispanic workers were underrepresented compared to their participation in the broader U.S. workforce. Specifically, the EEOC states that in 2022:

  • Hispanic workers made up 18.7% of the total U.S. workforce, but only 9.9% of the high tech workforce;
  • Black workers made up 11.6% of the total U.S. workforce, but only 7.4% of the high tech workforce;
  • By contrast, Asian workers made up just 6.5% of the total U.S. workforce but comprised 18.1% of the high tech workforce, and Caucasian workers made up 58.4% of the total U.S. workforce in 2022 and comprised 59.9% of the high tech workforce.
 

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EEOC Report Reveals Focus on STEM Industries

Within the high tech workforce, the EEOC reports that 40.1% identify as workers of color, but Black and Hispanic workers were underrepresented compared to their participation in the broader U.S. workforce. Specifically, the EEOC states that in 2022:

  • Hispanic workers made up 18.7% of the total U.S. workforce, but only 9.9% of the high tech workforce;
  • Black workers made up 11.6% of the total U.S. workforce, but only 7.4% of the high tech workforce;
  • By contrast, Asian workers made up just 6.5% of the total U.S. workforce but comprised 18.1% of the high tech workforce, and Caucasian workers made up 58.4% of the total U.S. workforce in 2022 and comprised 59.9% of the high tech workforce.

Hispanics already outpaced black folks and nikkas keep pushing anti education lmfaoook
 

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Hispanics already outpaced black folks and nikkas keep pushing anti education lmfaoook
I don't think education will solve this gap. Both political parties have been completely hands off on regulating tech companies.

These companies are free to discriminate with barely any repercussions. Because our politicians are bought and paid for.



 

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I don't think education will solve this gap. Both political parties have been completely hands off on regulating tech companies.

These companies are free to discriminate with barely any repercussions. Because our politicians are bought and paid for.



Exactly. You can tell who works in the corporate world and who doesn't. Yall have people in this thread talking about how they can't even get a shot with the education/experience they have but folks want to say it's because we are anti-education.
 

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I don't think education will solve this gap. Both political parties have been completely hands off on regulating tech companies.

These companies are free to discriminate with barely any repercussions. Because our politicians are bought and paid for.




Im more so stating black men are not in any of the rooms when it comes to policy. Education is a pathway to have us represented in all aspects of American and Global decision making vs the fukk school get a trade/cert shyt that grts pushed
 

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I don't think education will solve this gap. Both political parties have been completely hands off on regulating tech companies.

These companies are free to discriminate with barely any repercussions. Because our politicians are bought and paid for.



Nah you talk all that political shyt, call it for what it is. The Republican courts removed protections for affirmative action which lead to these companies completely dropping any DEI talks and leaning even more into making it white and Asian focused.
 

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Im more so stating black men are not in any of the rooms when it comes to policy. Education is a pathway to have us represented in all aspects of American and Global decision making vs the fukk school get a trade/cert shyt that grts pushed
Not trying to make this a school vs trade debate but why do you think so many people are pushing trades? I'm not saying one is better than the other but there are many people(not just black men) who got an education who can't a decent paying job. So if the deck is already stacked against us, can you blame someone for choosing to go the trade route? Also, there are plenty of politicians who bought a degree from whatever school they claim to have attended but they clearly did not get any type of education. It's not as black and white as you try to make it sound.
 

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Nah you talk all that political shyt, call it for what it is. The Republican courts removed protections for affirmative action which lead to these companies completely dropping any DEI talks and leaning even more into making it white and Asian focused.
Discrimination in tech has been going on for decades. What your talking about just occurred recently.
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Not trying to make this a school vs trade debate but why do you think so many people are pushing trades? I'm not saying one is better than the other but there are many people(not just black men) who got an education who can't a decent paying job. So if the deck is already stacked against us, can you blame someone for choosing to go the trade route? Also, there are plenty of politicians who bought a degree from whatever school they claim to have attended but they clearly did not get any type of education. It's not as black and white as you try to make it sound.
ANY market can become saturated. If everyone starts focusing on trades then eventually you are going to see salaries suppressed and a bunch of good people sitting on the sideline as there are too many tradesmen. The key regardless of going the trade route or STEM route is to have some direction to get educated with a path forward. But the key is after getting that education, the degree or certification ain't going to do all the work for us. We have to get in that bytch and grind. I was the only minority in my company for years. I busted my ass until they knew they couldn't afford to lose me. At that point started making demands which is why I've worked from home for 15 years now. I also took that opportunity to hire in other black folks. We have to get in there and make our own opportunities and bring up our own or even branch off and start our own shyt.

There are many paths for us to have success but all of them are going to take hard work. A lot of people think the success will fall in their laps. Even with going the trade route it's going to take hard work to build yourself up to really make a killing with it.
 
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