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This AI shyt is :wow:

I started learning to code last year. Barely chugging along. I finally got to the point where I understood JavaScript and started trying to learn React.

In August I said fukk it and switched to learning how to efficiently work with ChatGTP and Claude. Since they time, I’ve built 3 full stack web apps and 3 desktop software applications. Using React, Next.js and Python. I even used it to help walk me thru configuring Firebase.

Now I’m working on two projects that target large companies and municipalities. Once I complete them both, I’m going to register a new LLC and start looking for seed funding.


The game has changed with this AI shyt. The only thing required is creativity, critical thinking and brainstorming. And I’m doing this shyt solo with no help. I’m even using AI to create a logo. And I’m only spending $60 a month :manny:


Even for complex projects, you can have the AI map out the code file tree and work on one at a time. The first of the two apps, I built a prototype. It only took me 1 hour to build it from scratch. I spent about 4 hours discussing it with ChatGTP, and I was having a legit R&D meeting and marketing meeting at the same time.

Even when it makes mistakes and struggles with finding a solution, I just switch to Claude and it fixes the issue.

And these are just the early iterations. In 4 or 5 years, software developers won’t be needed.

And I know UI/UX don’t think their jobs are in danger…. If you know how to use these AI tools, think again.
 

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ANY market can become saturated. If everyone starts focusing on trades then eventually you are going to see salaries suppressed and a bunch of good people sitting on the sideline as there are too many tradesmen. The key regardless of going the trade route or STEM route is to have some direction to get educated with a path forward. But the key is after getting that education, the degree or certification ain't going to do all the work for us. We have to get in that bytch and grind. I was the only minority in my company for years. I busted my ass until they knew they couldn't afford to lose me. At that point started making demands which is why I've worked from home for 15 years now. I also took that opportunity to hire in other black folks. We have to get in there and make our own opportunities and bring up our own or even branch off and start our own shyt.

There are many paths for us to have success but all of them are going to take hard work. A lot of people think the success will fall in their laps. Even with going the trade route it's going to take hard work to build yourself up to really make a killing with it.
All I was saying was that we shouldn't be so ignorant and label someone who chooses to go the trade route as anti-education. That's part of the reason why we aren't doing better than we should be. We are so quick to dismiss what others are saying instead of trying to work together to come up with a solution.
 

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All I was saying was that we shouldn't be so ignorant and label someone who chooses to go the trade route as anti-education. That's part of the reason why we aren't doing better than we should be. We are so quick to dismiss what others are saying instead of trying to work together to come up with a solution.
I fully agree with that. That's why I was saying just have a plan. I see so many who are anti-education but leave it at that. Plus I definitely think there is a right wing agenda to push anti-education on the country as a whole. I have no problem at all with someone going the trade route as it is a very viable path to making a comfortable salary and possibly being rich if you grind it hard enough.
 

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Not trying to make this a school vs trade debate but why do you think so many people are pushing trades? I'm not saying one is better than the other but there are many people(not just black men) who got an education who can't a decent paying job. So if the deck is already stacked against us, can you blame someone for choosing to go the trade route? Also, there are plenty of politicians who bought a degree from whatever school they claim to have attended but they clearly did not get any type of education. It's not as black and white as you try to make it sound.

It’s a coping mechinism for dudes who didnt do good in school. The only thing stupid about college is going into debt for a useless degree to make ya mama proud. There has always been a social class issue among folks but black men dont realize it is external factors causing thst beef when im reality black men need to be a unit and aim to dominate all fields so we can implement our will on the world. For some reason black women understand this and do it for themselves but we dont and keep chasing come mythical community that will be lead by some benevolent dictator leader lol
 

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All I was saying was that we shouldn't be so ignorant and label someone who chooses to go the trade route as anti-education. That's part of the reason why we aren't doing better than we should be. We are so quick to dismiss what others are saying instead of trying to work together to come up with a solution.

We should be pushing black men to be PRODUCTIVE and DO THINGS THST BENEFIT BLACK MEN.

We should he assessing our skill sets and aiming to go where we can make greatest impact BUT the goal should be a black man dominating im every sector of existance.
 

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It's really all about vacuums.

People forget, traditional STEM was actually pretty bad before the tech industry. A lot of traditional engineers graduated college and couldn't get jobs. Only like 1/4 of people with STEM degrees worked in STEM 10 years ago.

Then the tech industry hit, offered high salaries and WLB and those people finally had a place to go to. Many traditional STEM workers were leaving their fields to go into tech and many people changed their college major.

Tech created a vacuum where there are openings in other fields because of the brain drain effect it had. The next big thing will do the same but that's a reminder to be on the lookout for what's being left when that happens. A lot of Civil Engineering graduates are sitting real good right now because there's a lack of them as they mostly went into CS.

No matter what, the most constant, reliable thing will always be the health industry. A lot of very smart people can't work that field because while it requires brains it also requires a human touch and the stomach for blood and illness. That's one of the only true high floor/high ceiling fields where some of the best and brightest work.
 
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This AI shyt is :wow:

I started learning to code last year. Barely chugging along. I finally got to the point where I understood JavaScript and started trying to learn React.

In August I said fukk it and switched to learning how to efficiently work with ChatGTP and Claude. Since they time, I’ve built 3 full stack web apps and 3 desktop software applications. Using React, Next.js and Python. I even used it to help walk me thru configuring Firebase.

Now I’m working on two projects that target large companies and municipalities. Once I complete them both, I’m going to register a new LLC and start looking for seed funding.


The game has changed with this AI shyt. The only thing required is creativity, critical thinking and brainstorming. And I’m doing this shyt solo with no help. I’m even using AI to create a logo. And I’m only spending $60 a month :manny:


Even for complex projects, you can have the AI map out the code file tree and work on one at a time. The first of the two apps, I built a prototype. It only took me 1 hour to build it from scratch. I spent about 4 hours discussing it with ChatGTP, and I was having a legit R&D meeting and marketing meeting at the same time.

Even when it makes mistakes and struggles with finding a solution, I just switch to Claude and it fixes the issue.

And these are just the early iterations. In 4 or 5 years, software developers won’t be needed.

And I know UI/UX don’t think their jobs are in danger…. If you know how to use these AI tools, think again.
I think the issue you run into with ai is the hardest part is maintaining and scalability l. It’s not good enough yet for best practices imo. It’s a good tool to help you along and speeds up things exponentially but it helps to know what your looking at or you put yourself of risk of your application eventually being stuck since ai can go in a bunch of different directions with approach as of now
 

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I think the issue you run into with ai is the hardest part is maintaining and scalability l. It’s not good enough yet for best practices imo. It’s a good tool to help you along and speeds up things exponentially but it helps to know what your looking at or you put yourself of risk of your application eventually being stuck since ai can go in a bunch of different directions with approach as of now
I’ve ran into that exact issue. Let’s say ChatGTP writes the code and it’s not functioning right. You tell it what’s not working, give it the log messages and ask it to correct them. The new code is worse. And you get stuck on a loop of asking it to fix and copying/pasting code that doesn’t work.

This is where creativity comes into play. After a few tries of iterating prompts with ChatGTP, I take the code to Claude which will subsequently fix it.

You just have to give your prompts a lot of details and treat is as if it’s a person in the room with you. And you got to have patience. If you’re a senior dev with coding experience, you can fix the small things yourself. But if you don’t know how to code, you have to master how you create your prompts. You literally have to think like a detective, going over the crime scene.

The one thing I learned since I got into this is the code never works right the first time. And there are always changes and revisions that you will want to make.

Another trick I do is copy the code files to a txt document and number the lines. If I want to make a small change, I will just prompt what lines of code need to be revised, or what line do I put new code. You’re basically forcing the ai to think more and be specific.
 
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I’ve ran into that exact issue. Let’s say ChatGTP writes the code and it’s not functioning right. You tell it what’s not working, give it the log messages and ask it to correct them. The new code is worse. And you get stuck on a loop of asking it to fix and copying/pasting code that doesn’t work.

This is where creativity comes into play. After a few tries of iterating prompts with ChatGTP, I take the code to Claude which will subsequently fix it.

You just have to give your prompts a lot of details and treat is as if it’s a person in the room with you. And you got to have patience. If you’re a senior dev with coding experience, you can fix the small things yourself. But if you don’t know how to code, you have to master how you create your prompts. You literally have to think like a detective, going over the crime scene.

The one thing I learned since I got into this is the code never works right the first time. And there are always changes and revisions that you will want to make.

Another trick I do is copy the code files to a txt document and number the lines. If I want to make a small change, I will just prompt what lines of code need to be revised, or what line do I put new code. You’re basically forcing the ai to think more and be specific.
Yeah that makes sense it sounds like your more in line with how some developer use it. Even though you just started learning coding it still helps to know and it kinda helps you passively learn when ai starts giving you bad code. It can give good code too but you have be able to differentiate. I’m all for its advancement because at the end of the day part of the job will always be on how to build something and that gets better over time. Cutting out some of busy work is part of the mindset anyway.
 

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Yeah that makes sense it sounds like your more in line with how some developer use it. Even though you just started learning coding it still helps to know and it kinda helps you passively learn when ai starts giving you bad code. It can give good code too but you have be able to differentiate. I’m all for its advancement because at the end of the day part of the job will always be on how to build something and that gets better over time. Cutting out some of busy work is part of the mindset anyway.

What I do is, before it writes the code, I ask it to identify the problem, confirm what im trying to accomplish, what code will be added, updated or remove, explain why its taking the steps it chose to take, and will it effect anything else. A lot of times, it gets the code wrong due to memory lapses as well. Especially if it’s a long chat. Combine that with not being detailed enough and it will leave you frustrated.


It’s totally doable, but it’s tedious as hell. I probably will never be on the level of a senior dev, but I’m not trying to be. In another 5 years, will will be scary to see how fast and intelligent these models get.
 

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It's really all about vacuums.

People forget, traditional STEM was actually pretty bad before the tech industry. A lot of traditional engineers graduated college and couldn't get jobs. Only like 1/4 of people with STEM degrees worked in STEM 10 years ago.

Then the tech industry hit, offered high salaries and WLB and those people finally had a place to go to in addition many traditional STEM were leaving their fields to go into tech and many people changed their college major.

Tech created a vacuum where there are openings in other fields because of the brain drain it created. The next big thing will do the same but that's a reminder to be on the lookout for what's being left when that happens. A lot of Civil Engineering graduates are sitting real good right now because there's a lack of them as they mostly went into CS.

No matter what, the most constant, reliable thing will always be the health industry. A lot of very smart people can't work that field because while it requires brains it also requires a human touch and the stomach for blood and illness. That's one of the only true high floor/high ceiling fields where some of the best and brightest work.

It also requires school, training and debt. A lot of people don’t have the ability to switch careers to be let’s say an RN. You gotta have a degree and I know people that failed the cert exam multiple times. But once you make it over the hump, you’re set. I’m friends with a traveling nurse. She makes $180,000 a year.
 

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We should be pushing black men to be PRODUCTIVE and DO THINGS THST BENEFIT BLACK MEN.

We should he assessing our skill sets and aiming to go where we can make greatest impact BUT the goal should be a black man dominating im every sector of existance.
It goes beyond that. You won’t be dominating anything unless you invent it.

99% of the posts in this thread are geared towards taking a course, getting such and such certification, this degree or that degree, plus all types of magic tricks. And I get it. People have eat. But others who have more leeway to explore possibilities, need to be doing just that. Explore. Experiment.

Create something. If you can’t do that, make it better.
 

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It also requires school, training and debt. A lot of people don’t have the ability to switch careers to be let’s say an RN. You gotta have a degree and I know people that failed the cert exam multiple times. But once you make it over the hump, you’re set. I’m friends with a traveling nurse. She makes $180,000 a year.
Yup. Nursing and most things health (actual health, not like the business side) are the most reliable in terms of employment and wealth creation.

Think about how many old nurses I've seen with long careers. I know it's very common for people to have 40+ year nursing careers and I don't see that changing. It's not easy and can be pretty tough on the body, but it's reliable work that's always needed. Not many people are ok with anybody but a human handling their health.

Even A.I knows.

Prompt: "What are the most reliable, longterm, good paying jobs?"

1. Healthcare Professionals

  • Physicians and Surgeons: Require extensive education and training but offer high salaries and job security.
  • Dentists: Provide essential oral healthcare services with strong demand.
  • Pharmacists: Play a critical role in medication management and patient care.
  • Registered Nurses and Nurse Practitioners: High demand due to ongoing healthcare needs.
  • Medical Specialists (e.g., Anesthesiologists, Radiologists): Specialized roles with higher earning potential.
 

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Yup. Nursing and most things health (actual health, not like the business side) are the most reliable in terms of employment and wealth creation.

Think about how many old nurses I've seen with long careers. I know it's very common for people to have 40+ year nursing careers and I don't see that changing. It's not easy and can be pretty tough on the body, but it's reliable work that's always needed. Not many people are ok with anybody but a human handling their health.

Even A.I knows.

Prompt: "What are the most reliable, longterm, good paying jobs?"

"wealth creation" is a loaded term. Job Reliability does not = Wealth Creation.
 
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