Tech companies are facing a crisis "hiring"

[desjardins]

The hiring bar is goofy at some companies and the people who master leetcode and can pass their bar just hop from company to company getting raises
I got rejected from Amazon couple months ago cause I failed a coding screen implementing a max stack with a twist. Cool whatever, I moved on with my life
Since then Amazon recruiters have been hounding me with long ass emails about how I’m a good fit based on my resume etc
Foh. Y’all never even took the time last time to dig into my fit or resume. I got a hour to code one question and y’all based your entire decision off that. It just luck of the draw, cause a week later I passed a FB coding round that required two questions in the same hour….I just did better on those particular problems.
Y’all complaining about hiring when the process is just trash and arbitrary as hell. Majority ppl working at these companies would fail the same interview process if they had to randomly do it one day. That’s a problem

 

[RiffRaff]

The hiring bar is goofy at some companies and the people who master leetcode and can pass their bar just hop from company to company getting raises
I got rejected from Amazon couple months ago cause I failed a coding screen implementing a max stack with a twist. Cool whatever, I moved on with my life
Since then Amazon recruiters have been hounding me with long ass emails about how I’m a good fit based on my resume etc
Foh. Y’all never even took the time last time to dig into my fit or resume. I got a hour to code one question and y’all based your entire decision off that. It just luck of the draw, cause a week later I passed a FB coding round that required two questions in the same hour….I just did better on those particular problems.
Y’all complaining about hiring when the process is just trash and arbitrary as hell. Majority ppl working at these companies would fail the same interview process if they had to randomly do it one day. That’s a problem

100% facts

 

[perfectblack999]

Bro what area of the country are you in the Bay Area?

I’m in Atlanta. Company is HQ’d in NYC. Covid and remote work came through for ya boy

 

[duckbutta]

ok, so what are the best tech jobs to aim for if you dont have experience in the field, but want to break into the industry?

Basically, which jobs can you walk in and make $70k+? Im not looking to take a pay cut

You don't have any experience the best you going to get is help desk or QA or some very basic data analyst stuff....

You are not walking into ANY tech job with no experience and making 70k. If that is the way you think it works in tech then tech is not for you. All these high salaries you see people throwing around is for people with an X type of degree and X type of certifications and X years of experience.

 

[duckbutta]

This really only applies to software devs and Senior IT roles. Trust me there is not a crisis of hiring desktop support/service desk techs.

If your a developer or a senior cybersecurity, Cloud engineer, system admin, data analyst/scientist, or network engineer you can name your price. You cant fake these roles you need to know your stuff and show real experience. Most places will run use a 3rd party to run a thorough background and will sniff you out at interview.

Yeah all of those are roles that it becomes apparent REAL QUICK that you don't know what you are doing. Especially for cloud engineering and networking, cause a lot of your job is going to be dealing with outtages. shyt will be down and the company will be burning around 10k in losses a minute and they going to have you on the phone like "whats the ETA" and them asking for the ETA will be the first time you even heard anything was down

Or my personal favorite "were there any network changes last night" Every single time you hear that something is DOWN

 

[Bunchy Carter]

This is unfortunate and I know it happens. As a black breh in tech I have done pretty well getting interviews and offers. But, I know my complexion holds me back. I'm just happy I have a "white" name. At least it gets me in the door and then I take over. No doubt I get second guessed or have to do more for leadership roles which is why I shy away from them. I also don't want to manage a bunch of mafukkaz who already have their own opinions of me just from my skin color. Brehs in tech should know. My resume is impressive and despite doing well for myself, I should be doing better.

You know who gave me my first shot? A breh...there is no way I would have gotten a job at IBM at 20 any other way. We need more people that look like us to give us thse opportunities. When I used to be part of the hiring process, I was always looking for brehs to hire, but there were so few to pick from. Doesn't help that a lot of these companies poach directly from India.

I'm a STEM (I work in the chemisty/engineering field) guy also and you have to remember that it is not your complexion (being Black) that is holding you back, what is holding you back is White Supremacy and you have to push through that shyt.

I don't give a fukk what these other races/ethnicities think about me, I'm not saying you do not have this mentality, but you need to work on that more. The crazy thing is they know I do not give a fukk, I don't give a fukk about being fired, invited to parties or any of that, and I have managed multiple groups where starting out, I was the only Black person there, but I was able to bring another Black person aboard.

You can get out of your comfort zone and try to leadership (manager) role, if you know your skills are good, and the biggest thing is you also have to work on understand managing different personalities, even the ones you really dislike.

A sister, who also went an HBCU gave me my first shot when I graduated, and that is why I pushed to becoming a manager, so I be in position to can give other brothers and sisters a shot, and lace them with the game on how to maneuver these jobs with out being a c00n or sellout, and one day start your own company/business.

 

[JLova]

The hiring bar is goofy at some companies and the people who master leetcode and can pass their bar just hop from company to company getting raises
I got rejected from Amazon couple months ago cause I failed a coding screen implementing a max stack with a twist. Cool whatever, I moved on with my life
Since then Amazon recruiters have been hounding me with long ass emails about how I’m a good fit based on my resume etc
Foh. Y’all never even took the time last time to dig into my fit or resume. I got a hour to code one question and y’all based your entire decision off that. It just luck of the draw, cause a week later I passed a FB coding round that required two questions in the same hour….I just did better on those particular problems.
Y’all complaining about hiring when the process is just trash and arbitrary as hell. Majority ppl working at these companies would fail the same interview process if they had to randomly do it one day. That’s a problem

I feel you and frankly I used to be the one who created the coding/technical questions. I'm not sure how effective they are but it does cut out the pretenders. These larger companies have a shyt load of applicants so they use the testing to weed out a lot of them. I get it....you may misss some good candidates but you don't miss the bad ones. The one thing I never understood was how some of these larger gech companies have like 6-7 rounds of interviews. GTFOH!

 

[HoldThisL]

I'm in a tech training program right now that is gonna connect me with employers after. Hopefully I can land a good paying job.

 

[desjardins]

I feel you and frankly I used to be the one who created the coding/technical questions. I'm not sure how effective they are but it does cut out the pretenders. These larger companies have a shyt load of applicants so they use the testing to weed out a lot of them. I get it....you may misss some good candidates but you don't miss the bad ones. The one thing I never understood was how some of these larger gech companies have like 6-7 rounds of interviews. GTFOH!

yea that's fine, from a candidate perspective i basically view tech interviewing as a numbers game
you just need to cross your fingers and hope you practiced enough questions similar to whatever one you get in a round
but from the company perspective why keep complaining about difficulty hiring when you know you are probably dismissing qualified candidates.
A lot of companies are slowly adjusting. FB removed dynamic programming questions, airbnb lets you pick between coding screen and doing an small rest project, etc

 

[JLova]

Yeah all of those are roles that it becomes apparent REAL QUICK that you don't know what you are doing. Especially for cloud engineering and networking, cause a lot of your job is going to be dealing with outtages. shyt will be down and the company will be burning around 10k in losses a minute and they going to have you on the phone like "whats the ETA" and them asking for the ETA will be the first time you even heard anything was dobetterwn

Or my personal favorite "were there any network changes last night" Every single time you hear that something is DOWN

Man, if shyt's down and you're running point, you better not fukk it up cuz you will not be around. Seen it happen enough times. One was a breh who got canned the next day.

There's no greater rush than having a critical incident and you're the mahfukka responsible for fixing it....clock's ticking. What a rush.

 

[JLova]

yea that's fine, from a candidate perspective i basically view tech interviewing as a numbers game
you just need to cross your fingers and hope you practiced enough questions similar to whatever one you get in a round
but from the company perspective why keep complaining about difficulty hiring when you know you are probably dismissing qualified candidates.
A lot of companies are slowly adjusting. FB removed dynamic programming questions, airbnb lets you pick between coding screen and doing an small rest project, etc

I feel you.

 

[Killah Ray]

I've always been interested in tech, but I wouldn't even know where to start. My ass is 43.. i aint tryna go to school for 3-4 more years just to start making money. That's just not possible for me.

I'm in the same boat, I'm about to be 35 and have been in healthcare for going on 11 years....all of this money out there in tech with the addition of work from home looking feasible (which is important considering I stay in country ass SC far away from somewhere like Charleston or Greenville)...I've been considering a career switch even though I'm in a master's program working on becoming a Family Nurse Practitioner....

 

[whatthatthangsmelllike]

She made that whole article

 

[Apollo Creed]

The hiring bar is goofy at some companies and the people who master leetcode and can pass their bar just hop from company to company getting raises
I got rejected from Amazon couple months ago cause I failed a coding screen implementing a max stack with a twist. Cool whatever, I moved on with my life
Since then Amazon recruiters have been hounding me with long ass emails about how I’m a good fit based on my resume etc
Foh. Y’all never even took the time last time to dig into my fit or resume. I got a hour to code one question and y’all based your entire decision off that. It just luck of the draw, cause a week later I passed a FB coding round that required two questions in the same hour….I just did better on those particular problems.
Y’all complaining about hiring when the process is just trash and arbitrary as hell. Majority ppl working at these companies would fail the same interview process if they had to randomly do it one day. That’s a problem

hiring is flawed in general, even with the way companies want to tackle 'diversity'.

 

[Apollo Creed]

I'm in the same boat, I'm about to be 35 and have been in healthcare for going on 11 years....all of this money out there in tech with the addition of work from home looking feasible (which is important considering I stay in country ass SC far away from somewhere like Charleston or Greenville)...I've been considering a career switch even though I'm in a master's program working on becoming a Family Nurse Practitioner....

keep down your path and try to pivot to Healthcare tech, anyone can code, your practical healthcare experience is critical insight into building new tech for the field if that makes sense.