Taylor Swift “Midnights” sells 1.54 million copies first week.

[DeuceZ]

The amount of white women that believe they are apart of her inner circle is unheard of. They had to go out and support their bestie and quell the evil horseman of the apocalypse that is Scooter Braun.

This is true, asked my homegirl if she listened to Taylor Swift... turned into a dissertation

 

[Sad Bunny]

You should try a few. Minus the bs I’ve seen some good discussions on them on

Word. Where should I start?

Link me.

 

[Chip Skylark]

Word. Where should I start?

Link me.

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[Solo_87]

Lol, you are trying to use a outfated parsigm that was effectively demolished with MJ in the 80s.

Try to keep up with the times. Again there are no barriersmof entry that stop whites, black, asians, hispanics, and ehatever from mKing music and pressnting it for consumption thats as fair as it can be.if you want to play the victim and try to guilt white people into rocking with you, more power to you. Its just pathetic.

There are a few exceptions

But non white artist, black artist especially, are generally still not afforded the same opportunities and expousure as their white counterparts

This is a good starting point

'Separate and Unequal': How 'Pop' Music Holds Black Artists Back

The music industry is debating the term “urban,” but the “pop” category often helps prop up white artists at the expense of the black artists who inspire them

www.google.com

‘Notice to Black Artists’: Behind R&B’s Struggle at Radio & The Letter That Has the Industry Buzzing

A scathing open letter makes the rounds after after no black lead artists (not even Beyonce) top the Hot 100 for more than a year – and sparks serious discussion on what ails the genre.

www.google.com

Even a Pop Deity Like Beyoncé Gets Marginalized to “Urban Radio”

If you’re a black woman singing R&B in the 2010s, you’re destined for “urban radio”—and marginalization.

www.google.com

The domaince of artist like Taylor Swift is partly by design

Race relations are improving but its disengenious to argue the market is equal

Race and how we identify still informs, influences what we choose to consume

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Again you show a lack of understanding
Us total population is irrelevant the market for a genre or potential buyers is the only thing relevant in a conversation about sales.

the market for potential consumers has a direct correlation to demographical size of the race/ethnic group who could be potential consumers

Like i explicitg said, you would have to know the entire population of pitential buyers and then break it down by racr to support your claim. Its a concept that seems to be going over your head.

see above

Race is irrelevant, it isnt 1954 its 2022.

stop it

We have korean grouos that cant speak english selling millions in the us.something most rappers cant do

the market for kpop outside of BTS isn't that great in the USA (K-Pop consumption is somewhere less than 2% of the entire market! )

World Music, Latin Music Surge

World music (up 26.4%) and Latin both grew at a lightning-fast pace; Latin grew at such a rate (28.4%) that in absolute numbers only R&B/Hip-Hop grew more, edging out rock for second-biggest growth in raw units, up 6.6 million over the same period last year. It’s Latin’s second straight year of 20%-plus growth, taking it to 6.25% of the total market, up from 5.32% at this point last year; and world music’s second straight year of double-digit percentage growth, taking it to 2.2% of the market, up from 1.9% midway through 2021. (The “world music” classification is generally a catchall of non-Latin music genres that originated outside the contiguous United States, and includes K-Pop and Afrobeats, among others.) Though every measured core genre is up at least a little bit year-over-year, only Latin, world, children and new age are growing at a faster rate than the market overall (9.3%) — and the top four genres all dropped in percentage of the overall market.

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HipHop & R&B = 27.64% market share

Latin Music = 6.25 market share

World Music (this includes Afrobeats and K-Pop) = 2.2 market share


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Top 4 in the USA

Growth Rankings

The top five genres in the U.S. have remained steady for several years now, and reflect the overall volume of listening nationally: R&B/hip-hop, rock, pop, country and Latin, in that order. But looking at the genres ranked by unit growth over the past year shakes up the rankings: R&B/hip-hop is still the leader in growth, accounting for 19.43% of the bump in the market over the midpoint of 2021, while rock and Pop slot in at Nos. 3 and 4. Latin jumps to No. 2, while world music, at No. 7 overall, leaps to No. 5, outpacing country and dance/electronic (the latter is no. 6 overall). Collectively, those top five genres — R&B/hip-hop, Latin, rock, pop and world music — account for 68.78% of the growth overall in the first six months of 2022.

Mid-Year 2022: Hip-Hop’s Still the Top Genre But Latin & World Music Are Making Gains

"Encanto," Bad Bunny and K-Pop fueled surges for different genres, though the established order remains in place.

www.power991fm.com

here is the pdf

https://www.billboard.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/july-19-2022-billboard-bulletin-1.pdf

 

[R=G]

Where is Norah Jones at? She had monster records and said fukk it..2nd album did 1 million first week after the first album got so huge..Adele sells ALOT too.

 

[Rembrandt]

This website is obsessed with sales.

There is nothing wrong with discussing numbers. This is big especially considering the new rules and that sales are down in general.

This is the big thing at the end of the day. Sales across the board are down. she bucked the trend; there's something to be learned there.

New tricks everyday

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Lol, you are trying to use a outfated parsigm that was effectively demolished with MJ in the 80s.

Try to keep up with the times. Again there are no barriersmof entry that stop whites, black, asians, hispanics, and ehatever from mKing music and pressnting it for consumption thats as fair as it can be.if you want to play the victim and try to guilt white people into rocking with you, more power to you. Its just pathetic.

LOL @ this dummy citing MJ like MJ was typical. R&B cats in that same era told us what the deal was:

 

[David_TheMan]

LOL @ this dummy citing MJ like MJ was typical. R&B cats in that same era told us what the deal was:

mj opened that door in the 80s.
simce emergence of rap you have had legit superstars in black genrr, whitney houston mariah carey in pop r and b boyz 2 men and etx. yhat was in tge 90s, either way the notion thag blacks arr frozen or kept oit the market hasnt been true for atleast 60 years.

 

[David_TheMan]

the market for potential consumers has a direct correlation to demographical size of the race/ethnic group who could be potential consumers




see above



stop it




the market for kpop outside of BTS isn't that great in the USA (K-Pop consumption is somewhere less than 2% of the entire market! )






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HipHop & R&B = 27.64% market share

Latin Music = 6.25 market share

World Music (this includes Afrobeats and K-Pop) = 2.2 market share


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Top 4 in the USA

Mid-Year 2022: Hip-Hop’s Still the Top Genre But Latin & World Music Are Making Gains

"Encanto," Bad Bunny and K-Pop fueled surges for different genres, though the established order remains in place.

www.power991fm.com

here is the pdf

https://www.billboard.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/july-19-2022-billboard-bulletin-1.pdf

The market for potential customers isnt the total population of a nation. Learn to read and comprehend what is written, so you can respond to what is presented and ideally logically.

I never made a argument for kpop, so your whole breakdown is a strawman.

Hip hop being a top genre means nothing, i didnt make a comment about the popularity of any genre, i said stars from said genres dont exist. Can you speak on what i argued or not?

 

[IllmaticDelta]

mj opened that door in the 80s.
simce emergence of rap you have had legit superstars in black genrr, whitney houston mariah carey in pop r and b boyz 2 men and etx. yhat was in tge 90s, either way the notion thag blacks arr frozen or kept oit the market hasnt been true for atleast 60 years.

Those other "black" acts were more like exceptions to the rule, rather than the norm. Even someone as great as Stevie Wonder wasn't actually moving tons of units, album wise, especially if you compared him to many of the white rock acts that were around in the same time span.

 

[David_TheMan]

Those other "black" acts were more like exceptions to the rule, rather than the norm. Even someone as great as Stevie Wonder wasn't actually moving tons of units, album wise, especially if you compared him to many of the white rock acts that were around in the same time span.

Rock was the dominant genre at the time ao it makes sense it would sell more.

What point are you trying tomake towards me though

 

[Knucklehead]

Anybody listen to it?

The last taylor swift I listen to 1989 I actually enjoyed

If you liked 1989 you’ll definitely enjoy this one. She’s indisputably a top tier songwriter.

 

[Deafheaven]

If you liked 1989 you’ll definitely enjoy this one. She’s indisputably a top tier songwriter.

Are ya'll trolling with this adulation for taylor fukking swift? top tier songwriter? compared to who? Drake ?


come on man...

matter fack I'mma give you the benefit of the doubt can you lace me with some of her best songs song writing wise.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

The market for potential customers isnt the total population of a nation. Learn to read and comprehend what is written, so you can respond to what is presented and ideally logically.

I've explained this like 4x's already. Larger the demographic = the larger the potential consumer market. What don't you understand about this? Let's take a look at the Latin market for example:

With almost 500 million native Spanish speakers worldwide, any sweeping proclamations about the state of ‘Latin culture’ should be taken with a grain of salt. Just look at the USA; as one of the largest cultural melting pots in the world, almost 20% of the population is Spanish-speaking (a figure that makes it the 2nd largest Spanish-speaking country in the world, which looks to grow to 33% by 2050). And as the largest exporter of culture and entertainment



But, since we made our start, our journey has been the same as Latin music’s. Just as Latin music has now become entwined with the general market, we’ve expanded to become a company working with artists in whatever genre you can imagine (whilst never losing sight of those Latin roots which define us) mostly for general market campaigns. As the nation becomes more diverse and our cultures intertwine, the lines that used to define our music are becoming more and more blurred as new fusions and subgenres emerge that make part of the general mainstream culture.

This trend shouldn’t surprise anyone. In the US, demographics have been shifting towards increased Latin representation over a number of years. And that doesn’t just stop at sheer numbers - more Latin people means more opportunities to share Latin culture, whether it be at dinnertime or passing a headphone to a friend in the schoolyard. In the US now, Latin music is simply music - and Latin culture is simply culture.

Latin Music Is Changing the Way Brands Communicate | LBBOnline

Little Black Book, This Hispanic Heritage Month, SoStereo co-founders Salo Sterental and Beto Azout break down why - now more than ever - the world of advertising is dancing to a Latin beat

www.lbbonline.com

This same logic applies across all genres of music

I never made a argument for kpop, so your whole breakdown is a strawman.

My point was that BTS is one-off type of deal. No other Kpop act is doing that/getting close

Hip hop being a top genre means nothing, i didnt make a comment about the popularity of any genre, i said stars from said genres dont exist. Can you speak on what i argued or not?

You can't dominate the market like that and have no "stars" within the genre