Taylor Swift “Midnights” sells 1.54 million copies first week.

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The graph supports every point I made. If you can't move a 1 million units in a population of 200 million:jbhmm: For example if we were to say that there was no crossover taking place and the genres were only supported by their own communities:

white people moving 1 million units in a population of nearly 200 million = .5%

vs

black people moving 500,000 in a population of nearly 40 million = 1.25%


the black comparison is actually > than the white one
Blacks only sold to blacks you might have a point but you dont.

If the primary buyers of black music werent white people you might have a point.

You dont have one.
 

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Blacks only sold to blacks you might have a point but you dont.

If the primary buyers of black music werent white people you might have a point.

You dont have one.

my point is relative to their population (almost 5x bigger than the "black" one) white music acts for the most part don't sell a lot which is a reflection of a lack of white support. Based on population, there should be like at least 20 more "white" acts selling as much as Swift or Adele but there clearly isn't:pachaha:
 

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my point is relative to their population (almost 5x bigger than the "black" one) white music acts for the most part don't sell a lot which is a reflection of a lack of white support. Based on population, there should be like at least 20 more "white" acts selling as much as Swift or Adele but there clearly isn't:pachaha:
They do sell alot, the market is equal for black, latin, white, asian acts. BTS showed that even a group that couldnt speak english could aell millions in the us.

So stop with the vixtimhood narrative.
 

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They do sell alot, the market is equal for black, latin, white, asian acts. BTS showed that even a group that couldnt speak english could aell millions in the us.

Not proportionally to their raw numbers. 200 million "whites" and you can't produce another Swift or Adele?:sas1:

So stop with the vixtimhood narrative.

What victimhood narrative? I already showed you what actually goes down on them charts:childplease:


 

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They do sell alot, the market is equal for black, latin, white, asian acts. BTS showed that even a group that couldnt speak english could aell millions in the us.

So stop with the vixtimhood narrative.

This is definitely not the case. The market is equal?

Do you know who the primary consumers of BTS are?
 

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I know black teens, 20 somethings who like her. And I aint talking about low identity black people either. Not sure why, but they do. Same with that fat white girl who was addicted to porn (can't remember her name)
 

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Not proportionally to their raw numbers. 200 million "whites" and you can't produce another Swift or Adele?:sas1:



What victimhood narrative? I already showed you what actually goes down on them charts:childplease:


The general population is irrelevant to the market of buyers.
So trying to claim that whites as a unified block are not proportionate buyers, is foolish.
What you would actually need to do is breakdown the actual population of genre purchasers, and then find the percentage of buyers based on race to make that determination, not simply take society numbers as a whole.

Just showing a lack of actual knowledge of what you are discussing.

Your victomhood strategy of crying about white folks, when the race is irrelevant, and the discussion is on fanbases and being a actual star, is you playing the victim card and its pretty pathetic.
 

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This is definitely not the case. The market is equal?

Do you know who the primary consumers of BTS are?
Yes the market is equal. There are no barriers of entry for any artist to sell their wares to the market of customers.
pop music fans, primarily young women were the primary consumers of BTS music in the US.
I'd say asian and white girls the most, but you'd have hispanic and black in there too
 

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The general population is irrelevant to the market of buyers.

:childplease:
So trying to claim that whites as a unified block are not proportionate buyers, is foolish.
What you would actually need to do is breakdown the actual population of genre purchasers, and then find the percentage of buyers based on race to make that determination, not simply take society numbers as a whole.

The numbers on the whole doesn't tell you what sub-percentage of said group are buyers but it clearly lets us know the amount of buyers per "race/ethnic grouping" for the most part, will be proportional to their overall number. I think we can safely say that amount of buyers/consumers of 200 million will be larger than the amount of buyers/consumers in/of a population of 40 million:sas2:
Just showing a lack of actual knowledge of what you are discussing.

see above


Your victomhood strategy of crying about white folks, when the race is irrelevant, and the discussion is on fanbases and being a actual star, is you playing the victim card and its pretty pathetic.

Race is always relevant:




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Yes the market is equal. There are no barriers of entry for any artist to sell their wares to the market of customers.
pop music fans, primarily young women were the primary consumers of BTS music in the US.
I'd say asian and white girls the most, but you'd have hispanic and black in there too

No the market isn’t equal it’s efficient.

Many don’t invest in music because the barrier of entry is expensive. In this same thread I learned Taylor swifts dad invested 300k to jumpstart it. Wendy Day also said it’ll cost 120k to really attempt to have a serious music career. I can continue…… there’s even better research papers on this.
 

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:childplease:


The numbers on the whole doesn't tell you what sub-percentage of said group are buyers but it clearly lets us know the amount of buyers per "race/ethnic grouping" for the most part, will be proportional to their overall number. I think we can safely say that amount of buyers/consumers of 200 million will be larger than the amount of buyers/consumers in/of a population of 40 million:sas2:


see above




Race is always relevant:




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Exactly
 
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