Tariq Nasheed will be debating infamous white supremacist Jared Taylor on Thursday

[Wink Beaufield]

WS probably get together before events like this and prep each other on strategy. Tariq most likely going dolo

He needs a research team tbh

They do this shyt on various web forums as well. When a breh on cac dominated forum brings up issues like systemic racism, the aftereffects of Jim Crow and the War on Drugs, they team up and spam bullshyt "facts" to shout and shut people down.

Gotta watch out and counter them tactics.

 

[xoxodede]

He's got some good points that will press Tariq, Flex does need to prepare but this guy also has a ton of holes in his rhetoric as well.

Modern examples: Black Wall Street and the Black Seminole wars punch a huge holes in this guys arguments of our ability to create civilization that thrive.
And all his talking points just go back to Eugenics

His whole argument is Eugenics. I would just focus on that - and bring up stats and facts of lack of funding, lack of resources and how the government does not fund Black schools or areas with Black schools. As well as the racism that has been thrown at our school/education system from day one. Examples would be best.

But, I wouldn't use Black Seminoles.

If he does bring up Black Wall Street - it needs to include the other cases as well as the full scope of racial cleansing of towns where Black people were told to leave and lost property and land. Which was resold to whites and Black owners did not receive any of their money back or money from the sale.



The Land Was Ours | Andrew W. Kahrl | University of North Carolina Press

He can even bring up sharecropping contracts and how that caused a major lack of ownership and children going to school in the south up until the Civil Rights Movement.

 

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Before you can counter someone's points you have to understand what they are actually saying...

 

[Dzali OG]

Backing down?

It’s called being strategic and making moves that will benefit us.

Begging racist whites to listen to us doesn’t work

Florida State Seminoles became a powerhouse in the 80s by being prepared to accept any challenge, anywhere.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Cöons when they find out Tariq is about to debate a white supremacist:

 

[Razor Reader]

He's got some good points that will press Tariq, Flex does need to prepare but this guy also has a ton of holes in his rhetoric as well.

Modern examples: Black Wall Street and the Black Seminole wars punch huge holes in this guys arguments of our ability to create civilization that thrive.
And all his talking points just go back to Eugenics

No it did not. We don't live in much of a civilization today. Offend you go argue we never really had a civilization face of the Earth. What we have now is the veneer of modernity. We have something like a social contract but there's no real civilization.

So despite the automobile the coffee machine and air conditioning white people and black people have never really had much of a civilization same goes for brown people with Asians and all those others....

 

[Crayola Coyote]

The point is to get mental wins and chip away at their ideology. Most of WAS effect on us in America is a mental deal. They have us on auto pilot because we believe their ideology to be superior

THIS!

 

[BigMan]

this is yall mans?

 

[Nar-el]

Most of the "blacks have low IQ" bullshyt is based on American data. If I were Tariq, I would bring up rising IQ scores(and economies) in Africa and how the gap is rapidly closing in places like Great Britain(Nigerians score higher than Asians there). He should already know about the systemic issues in the US, but I wonder if he knows about this

 

[Dzali OG]

Who cares though? It just makes Tariq look even more uneducated, childish, uninformed and like someone not to take seriously.

It also makes him look uninformed on his community, their needs or white supremacy.

Jared Taylor from what I have read about him is advanced level. Not Tucker or anyone else. You can't just say your a "white supremacist and "white supremacy" and think that will fly. Why? Cause he don't care - Jared Taylor is proud of that.

The main issue is Tariq is not well informed on American Black History and our legacy here - and the programs, bills, etc that have directly affected us. If he knew this well- he would be able to come back at something like this.

Are you kidding me!

I'd destroy this guy on his points and I'm no academic.

 

[No Sleep]

You and @Heathcliff must be the same white dude

Pretty sure that’s crispy. I think crispy got about 6 accounts on here.

 

[Dzali OG]

Most of the "blacks have low IQ" bullshyt is based on American data. If I were Tariq, I would bring up rising IQ scores(and economies) in Africa and how the gap is rapidly closing in places like Great Britain(Nigerians score higher than Asians there). He should already know about the systemic issues in the US, but I wonder if he knows about this

Don't even go into that...

Iq is their attempt to quantify the intelligence or potential intelligence to succeed in THEIR SOCIETY!

Simple as that.

"Ok, ok, we (black people) don't fair as well as other groups at excelling in a white supremacist aka anti-black society."

All the point does is highlight white supremacy even more.

 

[Nar-el]

Don't even go into that...

Iq is their attempt to quantify the intelligence or potential intelligence to succeed in THEIR SOCIETY!

Simple as that.

"Ok, ok, we (black people) don't fair as well as other groups at excelling in a white supremacist aka anti-black society."

All the point does is highlight white supremacy even more.

I hear you but a lot of people believe that garbage and it needs to be scientifically debunked, just like "Caucasian" Egypt

 

[AJaRuleStan]

@AJaRuleStan Your thoughts?

Eh. I thought about this in the past as possibly being interesting, but ultimately I don't see the point in it. I mean, imo, Jared really isn't all that impressive of debater to begin with. But in the context of debating Tariq, there just isn't anything interesting to argue there.

Put it like this, Jared is an advocate for freedom of association so the second Tariq gets into it about the validity of WS, Jared will just be like, "Yeah, you're right Tariq, as the last 4 centuries have clearly shown, whites&blacks attempting to share a society together produce conflict so lets just separate and move towards decentralization!". At that point, what is Tariq going to say? After all, he is the one who flat out claims blacks are currently being dominated under a system of white supremacy so bad that black ppl are being killed with impunity -- and have been since the founding of Jamestown -- so the notion that he would argue against JT on that point just wouldn't make sense. It would be like a battered and abused Wife refusing her Husband's suggestion for a divorce, it just wouldn't follow.

In point, Tariq's whole approach is designed for generic republicans because they actually care about being labeled racist and WS. Jared Taylor is a separatist, he flat out doesn't care if Tariq pulls those cards, he won't refute them, he will concede them and simply say isn't that just all more evidence blacks would be better off not being around racist, oppressive whites.

 

[CobaltBlue]

to expose racists as fukking idiots.

Period.

You can't btich about them proliferating while black people are just supposed to sit on their hands

You said a whole bunch of nuthin. I see you've been doing it thru the entire thread. Carry on