Tariq Nasheed will be debating infamous white supremacist Jared Taylor on Thursday

[EdJo]

To be honest, the perfect person would be Professor BlackTruth, not Tariq Nasheed. PBT has an amazing knowledge of history, associated with his rich intellectual analysis of modern events. Tariq is a good entertainer, he is good with using the moment, to turn into something funny. But not great at killing people with words and facts.

Many of these so called white supremacists or race realists, always have the same arguments..."No civilization, no wheel, no writing language, violence and bla bla bla".
They have their shytty media on their side, so they try to turn that into facts, when in reality, it is all biased.

But, notice that when they talk about history, they associate themselves to Greece or Rome. When they are not from ancient Greece or Rome. They are descendants of the people, that greeks and romans saw as savages, germanic savages and barbarian tribes. And, if you guys pay attention, there were more interactions and respect between Romans and Nubians, than Romans with Germanic people and barbarians.

By the time that you had Nsibidi, Meroitic and Ge'ez in Africa, the ancestors of people like Jared Taylor, were doing nothing. And i am not lying, you can all go look for that.

I was blocked by a Swedish guy because i was killing him with facts about his people. When i proved him that his kind only produced important things, after interacting and killing other people, he simply called me "anti-white". I asked him "after i showed you the writing languages that africans created alone, now it is your turn. What writing language was created by your kind? And he told me latin lmao"...Well, "mate", latin comes from the Egyptian hieroglyphs. That was enough for him to block me.

 

[EdJo]

You know, in my country, we say something, "Para todo o malandro, seja malandro e meio com ele, ou mais", or in english "For every con artist that you meet, be a con artist and a half with him, or even more".
Don't try to be on the same level, or with your peace flag. Make him feel that your racism level is higher than what he will ever achieve.

One of the best feelings of being a racist, is how they behave once they see how racist i am. To them, it is something out of this world, that a black person is way more racist than them. They expect every negro to have an emotional background with their propaganda. Once they see that their propaganda, doesn't work with you, you become the boogie man...

And that's my problem with Tariq. Tariq is not racist...

PS: Even though i don't think Tariq is the right person for this debate, i can still smell the fear in some of you...Smh

 

[Ya' Cousin Cleon]

To be honest, the perfect person would be Professor BlackTruth, not Tariq Nasheed. PBT has an amazing knowledge of history, associated with his rich intellectual analysis of modern events. Tariq is a good entertainer, he is good with using the moment, to turn into something funny. But not great at killing people with words and facts.

Many of these so called white supremacists or race realists, always have the same arguments..."No civilization, no wheel, no writing language, violence and bla bla bla".
They have their shytty media on their side, so they try to turn that into facts, when in reality, it is all biased.

But, notice that when they talk about history, they associate themselves to Greece or Rome. When they are not from ancient Greece or Rome. They are descendants of the people, that greeks and romans saw as savages, germanic savages and barbarian tribes. And, if you guys pay attention, there were more interactions and respect between Romans and Nubians, than Romans with Germanic people and barbarians.

By the time that you had Nsibidi, Meroitic and Ge'ez in Africa, the ancestors of people like Jared Taylor, were doing nothing. And i am not lying, you can all go look for that.

I was blocked by a Swedish guy because i was killing him with facts about his people. When i proved him that his kind only produced important things, after interacting and killing other people, he simply called me "anti-white". I asked him "after i showed you the languages that africans created alone, now it is your turn. What writing language was created by your kind? And he told me latin lmao"...Well, "mate", latin comes from the Egyptian hieroglyphs. That was enough for him to block me.

I peeped that too

and hell, if we can keep it 100, you can even bring up they should be mad that white culture is the byproduct of groups with actual culture assimilating to one

 

[MewTwo]

This is very strange. WAY too many problems with this. First off, Tariq is the wrong guy to debate Jared Taylor. He's just going to yell and curse him out. A Boyce Watkin or someone who's legitimately intelligent would be better.

Also a 'debate' wouldn't accomplish anything. You could he's gonna suddenly change his mind about black people? He's a vile racist.

 

[AJaRuleStan]

No, I didn't misunderstand. Jared is a white imperialist psychopath and Tariq probably knows this. That fake benign "we just want separation" won't fly if he's seen enough of his stuff. Jared wants white supremacy just like William Regnery and Richard Spencer do. This is the dude who was juelzing for Dylan Roof and looked like a stuttering senile fool on the news This is Tariq's to lose.

I didn't say this debate was anyone to lose. I'm more or less saying there really isn't any point of dispute between the two worth holding a debate over, because, as I outlined before, Tariq already holds Jared's fundamental premises in regards to racial conflict&oppression, the question will be does he hold his conclusion. Of-course, Tariq could obstruct the whole thing and argue a separate point about how Jared is lying about just wanting separation and etc, but that thread of argumentation doesn't change anything about the idea of separation itself. I.E, blacks can't be subjugated to white supremacy if there is literally no whites in their society.

 

[No Sleep]

This is very strange. WAY too many problems with this. First off, Tariq is the wrong guy to debate Jared Taylor. He's just going to yell and curse him out. A Boyce Watkin or someone who's legitimately intelligent would be better.

Also a 'debate' wouldn't accomplish anything. You could he's gonna suddenly change his mind about black people? He's a vile racist.

You have any examples of him doing this in a debate with a WS?

 

[Shoog Shatmi]

Eh. I thought about this in the past as possibly being interesting, but ultimately I don't see the point in it. I mean, imo, Jared really isn't all that impressive of debater to begin with. But in the context of debating Tariq, there just isn't anything interesting to argue there.

Put it like this, Jared is an advocate for freedom of association so the second Tariq gets into it about the validity of WS, Jared will just be like, "Yeah, you're right Tariq, as the last 4 centuries have clearly shown, whites&blacks attempting to share a society together produce conflict so lets just separate and move towards decentralization!". At that point, what is Tariq going to say? After all, he is the one who flat out claims blacks are currently being dominated under a system of white supremacy so bad that black ppl are being killed with impunity -- and have been since the founding of Jamestown -- so the notion that he would argue against JT on that point just wouldn't make sense. It would be like a battered and abused Wife refusing her Husband's suggestion for a divorce, it just wouldn't follow.

In point, Tariq's whole approach is designed for generic republicans because they actually care about being labeled racist and WS. Jared Taylor is a separatist, he flat out doesn't care if Tariq pulls those cards, he won't refute them, he will concede them and simply say isn't that just all more evidence blacks would be better off not being around racist, oppressive whites.

This. I was thinking the exact same things. Hell, Taylor might not even bring up any of the IQ/genetics talking points he is know for, and just focus on the idea of separation being a mutually beneficial solution for the racial conflict between blacks and whites. I'm not sure how Tariq would respond to that.

 

[#1 pick]

This is very strange. WAY too many problems with this. First off, Tariq is the wrong guy to debate Jared Taylor. He's just going to yell and curse him out. A Boyce Watkin or someone who's legitimately intelligent would be better.

Also a 'debate' wouldn't accomplish anything. You could he's gonna suddenly change his mind about black people? He's a vile racist.

Tariq don't debate like this. Y'all really must think Tariq is you. Cole, shut your dumbass up

 

[K.O.N.Y]

Jared Taylor has never actually debated a dude like Tariq though.

Thats what yall don't understand.

Tariq isn't fukking Van Jones or Marc Lamont Hill. He doesn't give a fukk about being nice or trying to find middle ground. Tariq has nothing to lose. Everyone else you've seen debate these guys end up talking about religion or some stupid shyt.

Tariq goes RIGHT to the goddamn point.

which is what through off Richard spencer

 

[Raw Lyrics]

His whole argument is Eugenics. I would just focus on that - and bring up stats and facts of lack of funding, lack of resources and how the government does not fund Black schools or areas with Black schools. As well as the racism that has been thrown at our school/education system from day one. Examples would be best.

But, I wouldn't use Black Seminoles.

If he does bring up Black Wall Street - it needs to include the other cases as well as the full scope of racial cleansing of towns where Black people were told to leave and lost property and land. Which was resold to whites and Black owners did not receive any of their money back or money from the sale.



The Land Was Ours | Andrew W. Kahrl | University of North Carolina Press

He can even bring up sharecropping contracts and how that caused a major lack of ownership and children going to school in the south up until the Civil Rights Movement.

I agree. You would also have to bring up the death-by-killing count done during military operations during WW1 & WW1 - I'm sure that type of European-on-European violence far exceeds any minority-on-minority crime.

Being better at organized violence isn't something to be proud of.

 

[AJaRuleStan]

This. I was thinking the exact same things. Hell, Taylor might not even bring up any of the IQ/genetics talking points he is know for, and just focus on the idea of separation being a mutually beneficial solution for the racial conflict between blacks and whites. I'm not sure how Tariq would respond to that.

My exact sentiments. For whatever reason, some posters itt think this will be a debate about the inferiority of blacks but I'm pretty confident that the subject of race&iq will, at best, receive a trivial amount of attention from Taylor. The crux of the dialogue will be about the is and ought regarding racial conflict&diversity. Their past spats on twitter pretty much confirm this.

 

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Put it like this, Jared is an advocate for freedom of association so the second Tariq gets into it about the validity of WS, Jared will just be like, "Yeah, you're right Tariq, as the last 4 centuries have clearly shown, whites&blacks attempting to share a society together produce conflict so lets just separate and move towards decentralization!". At that point, what is Tariq going to say? After all, he is the one who flat out claims blacks are currently being dominated under a system of white supremacy so bad that black ppl are being killed with impunity -- and have been since the founding of Jamestown -- so the notion that he would argue against JT on that point just wouldn't make sense. It would be like a battered and abused Wife refusing her Husband's suggestion for a divorce, it just wouldn't follow.

Tariq would (and has said) WS is global and you cannot escape it.

 

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My exact sentiments. For whatever reason, some posters itt think this will be a debate about the inferiority of blacks but I'm pretty confident that the subject of race&iq will, at best, receive a trivial amount of attention from Taylor. The crux of the dialogue will be about the is and ought regarding racial conflict&diversity. Their past spats on twitter pretty much confirm this.

Jared will move the discussion in the direction of DNA and IQ.

 

[null]

Jared is not going to waste any energy tussling with Tariq over race&iq. The moment Tariq disagrees with his position on that, Jared will just say that if race&iq doesn't explain the difference in outcome between blacks&whites than it must be white racism and if that's the case than its just more evidence pointing out that blacks would be better off separate from whites. You see, what Jared ultimately wants is other groups to align with his belief that groups are better off separate from one another, and he his more than happy to concede white people are evil and oppressive if it convinces black people that separation&decentralization is the answer to said white racism.

He will talk about DNA.

 

[null]

You misunderstood, i'm not saying he will concede it in good honest faith. I'm saying he will concede it to force out the conclusion that it would be beneficial for blacks and whites to be apart. He used similar line of reasoning in his debate against Wilfred Reilly when he said something along the lines of, when it comes to the question of racial injustice, my job is not to persuade you whites are right and blacks are wrong. He said this in response to questions that were attempting to force him to argue against the claim that whites are the cause of the racial conflict.

Now of-course he actually does believe that today the cause is more on the part of black people, but that's irrelevant to the normative claim he's making so he doesn't care all that much about arguing it. In point, as long as you believe 1) racial divide, hatred, and oppression plays a substantial role in our society and 2) its a problem we haven't solved after 400 years, he can lead you to the conclusion that it would be best if blacks and whites simply separate from one another. That's his ultimate goal and Tariq has no answer for that because he holds belief 1&2 already.

if you assume that Whites are simply more xenophobic and racially aggressive than other groups, given who is leading the USA how could it ever be solved? Under that scenario Whites don't have to leave they just need to give up control to fairer minded people.