Tariq & Akademiks Arguing Over Origins of Hip Hop

[Stick Up Kid]

 

[Amerikan Melanin]

How is this an argument? Ak was wrong and Tariq corrected him.

 

[kingofnyc]

Kool Herc older sister came to a Soundview party & gave him the blueprint

 

[Biscayne]

Tariq was right in this clip. This is something that is being debunked daily. As it should.

 

[Stuntone]

Tariq is right somewhat.

But Pimps creating "Rapping" "Raps" Putting Raps over a certain type of beat created Hiphop.

 

[Biscayne]

Kool Herc older sister came to a Soundview party & gave him the blueprint

The blueprint had already been established before she came to him about having that block party, which is inaccurately described as the singular hip-hop derived event like it was the Big Bang or something. That shyt somehow evolved into “Jamaicans created hip hop” even though literally everything about what DJ Herc was spinning was sonically black American. Jamaicans wouldn’t even recognize that music as something of their own creation. It sounds nothing like what they were used to.

 

[Hey_zeus]

It's ridiculous that this has to keep being debunked.

 

[kingofnyc]

The blueprint had already been established before she came to him about having that black party, which is inaccurately described as the singular hip-hop derived event like it was the Big Bang or something.

i think your confusing my statement

HipHop origins was created in the Soundview section with the whole Black Spades movement : Herc sister attended a Soundview party/bash sometime in ‘72
thereafter she told her younger brother about what she heard & what she saw … and as they say ‘the rest is history‘ them being Jamaican has nothing to do with anything


with that said - i’ll alwayz give Herc his rightfully status of the godfather of the culture

 

[JamesJabdi]

Next they gonna say hip hop was created in louisana and that nas stole his hole style from master p....it started in the bronx and kool herc the godfather of this shyt.

 

[Turbulent]

1936

 

[Biscayne]

Next they gonna say hip hop was created in louisana and that nas stole his hole style from master p....it started in the bronx and kool herc the godfather of this shyt.

There were African Americans in the Bronx that predate Kool Herc. Kool Herc is A founding father. Not THEE founding father. How is it that every other genre has a list of architects and many people share their credit of contributions, yet hip hop is the one genre where one man gets shoehorned into being the singular founding father? All these other black derived genres, there’s always a list of ppl who get credit for their contributions in the timeline. Yet they’re trying hard as hell to tie hip hop to one Jamaican man in the Bronx, even when that man himself said he was influenced by XYZ other godfathers and that his influences were wholly American. The revisionism feels like an agenda.

 

[FLYINHAWAIIAN]

1936

That was a Jamaican too

 

[UberEatsDriver]

You can’t call something rap before the term hip hop/rap was invented.

Miss me with that BS.

People like tariq can’t accept the fact that not everything was started by people like him lmao

 

[Stick Up Kid]

How is this an argument? Ak was wrong and Tariq corrected him.

ehhh its up for debate... but for Tariq to always discredit the contributions of Caribbeans to hip hop is weak.

 

[UberEatsDriver]

Also why is a person not from the east coast giving his opinion. Don’t understand how someone from the other side of this country is giving akademiks a man from NJ a hip hop history lesson on a region that he’s from.

Imagine a FBA New Yorker going to Califnornia and giving some cali nikka G funk lessons and saying he can do that cause the Cali nikka is Belizean…