This what ima say. The story is better, its the first tales game to shake things up. The overall party is the best for a Tales game. Other games may got a standout character but this shyt more balanced. The soundtrack is hit n miss. The combat is fluid but def more streamlined. If you enjoyin Vesperia like you said, then you gonna have no problem with Berseria. Its my favorite Tales game. Sure its got some JRPG corniness but overall this is the most effort this studio put in a game in minute. The graphics kinda light since it was a ps3 game upscaled for 4 and pc, but still the best tales graphics. Its worth a play, Velvet Crowe the best main character in the Tales series to me. Especially after that mid that was zestiria.Aite brehs. So I'm looking to be at the end of Vesperia with the final dungeon in tow. I will say that once everything opens up and I got more acclimated to its systems, the game opened up lovely. I love the cast of Vesperia, mostly due to their interactions with each other (so far, this continuous streams of skits enabled from various in-game/in-world action has lead to some of the best cast interactivity since the Persona series and probably the funniest since Persona 4 for me) and the music is very very good as well in the old school rpg charm of way. Most of all the tropes and such and the rare moments of subversions of them as well were all entertaining to me. The story is kinda so-so, but the cast holds it together well despite it. There was even some charm to the flaws in the limited character movements, expressions and animations during in-game cut-scenes that while technically bad when looking from modern day glasses (probably even suspect then honestly ; shyt like Yuri chopping mofos in the back of the neck for instant KO's looking light as shyt is just hilarious as an example). The battle system actually is deeper than it has any business being now that I see it all opened up, with every single character having some good use and fun styles to play and all very unique from each other. It actually plays very much like fighting games do with some of the mechanics when strung together properly. The battle system only hindered by some select, antiquated design choices. I got used to it, but it's still the achilles heel of it to me and what will definitely keep this game from being a straight 10/10, despite I can see that it's definitely still a "classick" nonetheless for its good things.
My thing is to you all tho, is that while I hear the bulk of you say that Berseria is practically better than Vesperia every way, especially within gameplay (which I'm graciously anticipating), I've read a lot of Tales fan opinions across the net and some YT reviews from alleged heavy Tales fans as well and it does seem that Berseria holds up as the best since Vesperia, but many make the argument that it's actually lesser than Vesperia. A few common threads among damn near everyone's statements elsewhere, but none mentioned here, was that the quality of music and level dungeon designs are severely lesser than in Vesperia, the battle system, while updated and more fluid, involves less skill and not quite as varied as Vesperia and just easier in the less of a challenge way (so not the good way), the skits are actually overdone and not nearly as fun and that some of the charm was overall lost, seemingly cuz of those things tied together. I do continuously hear that the story is better tho, which I mentioned earlier Vesperia's is kinda light and that the cast is great and arguably better tho. I'm just now ironically concerned that with acclimating and finally vibing with Vesperia so much now that I could potentially be let down by some of these possible shortcomings with Berseria. I mean, an rpg with so-so music is damn near sacrilege and that's definitely one that almost none seemed to have praised Berseria any about.
I just hope to be as pleased with Berseria as I am now with Vesperia and hopefully even more pleased. Lemme know one mo gin brehs, especially regarding my concerns stated.
Tales Of Berseria. January 24th
- Thread starter Dominic Brehetto
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I was halfway into typing up something long in return but just rest assured that as good as Vesperia has been to you - Berseria is still better. Enjoy both ridesAite brehs. So I'm looking to be at the end of Vesperia with the final dungeon in tow. I will say that once everything opens up and I got more acclimated to its systems, the game opened up lovely. I love the cast of Vesperia, mostly due to their interactions with each other (so far, this continuous streams of skits enabled from various in-game/in-world action has lead to some of the best cast interactivity since the Persona series and probably the funniest since Persona 4 for me) and the music is very very good as well in the old school rpg charm of way. Most of all the tropes and such and the rare moments of subversions of them as well were all entertaining to me. The story is kinda so-so, but the cast holds it together well despite it. There was even some charm to the flaws in the limited character movements, expressions and animations during in-game cut-scenes that while technically bad when looking from modern day glasses (probably even suspect then honestly ; shyt like Yuri chopping mofos in the back of the neck for instant KO's looking light as shyt is just hilarious as an example
My thing is to you all tho, is that while I hear the bulk of you say that Berseria is practically better than Vesperia every way, especially within gameplay (which I'm graciously anticipating), I've read a lot of Tales fan opinions across the net and some YT reviews from alleged heavy Tales fans as well and it does seem that Berseria holds up as the best since Vesperia, but many make the argument that it's actually lesser than Vesperia. A few common threads among damn near everyone's statements elsewhere, but none mentioned here, was that the quality of music and level dungeon designs are severely lesser than in Vesperia, the battle system, while updated and more fluid, involves less skill and not quite as varied as Vesperia and just easier in the less of a challenge way (so not the good way), the skits are actually overdone and not nearly as fun and that some of the charm was overall lost, seemingly cuz of those things tied together. I do continuously hear that the story is better tho, which I mentioned earlier Vesperia's is kinda light and that the cast is great and arguably better tho. I'm just now ironically concerned that with acclimating and finally vibing with Vesperia so much now that I could potentially be let down by some of these possible shortcomings with Berseria. I mean, an rpg with so-so music is damn near sacrilege and that's definitely one that almost none seemed to have praised Berseria any about.
I just hope to be as pleased with Berseria as I am now with Vesperia and hopefully even more pleased. Lemme know one mo gin brehs, especially regarding my concerns stated.
Khalil's_Black_Excellence
The King of Fighters
Damn breh, you should've let that shyt ride. I love hearing/reading people's takes on things of interests, especially games. It's what I was asking for really and why I took a while writing out my "dissertation", lol.
Exactly. If he enjoyin the ride he on now, the Berseria ride aint gonna disappoint him. It gets no shine cuz it came out in 2017 when Sony and Nintendo was flexin their nuts. Its a solid game.
Khalil's_Black_Excellence
The King of Fighters
I mean, I'm sure I'm going to enjoy it. Ionno if you saw my earlier post, but I came into this thread a noob to the Tales series, with a "lemme get this Vesperia out the way so I can move to brighter, darker Vesperia pastures", thinking it would be an no contest upgrade. Now, I'm like...it seems like it's a possibliy that I'll like Vesperia more, lol.
Vesperia is considered one of the greatest of the series so i cant say you gonna like vesperia more than Berseria.
Its like the FF7 vs FF6 convo.
as somebody who played both I thought Berseria mopped the floor with it, in characters and story.
Nah I don't want to ruin anything at this point. I've already said a lot about how I feel about both in this thread and others I think.
Honestly, I thought the first and last acts of Vesperia were just a mess straight up. The cast carries that game (moreso with Flynn added in the new version)...
there's almost no chance you'll like vesperia more. you'd be the extreme outlier - and everyone agrees that vesperia is a very, very good game. You won't find anyone worth having their opinion heard say that Vesperia is a bad game. Its damn good.
Berseria is just the best in the series and its also a result of a myriad of lessons learned from previous games. There was a lot of trial and error along with real risktaking breaking away from constants within the tales franchise to get to Berseria and they nailed it.
If 2020 wasn't loaded with great games I'd be playing Berseria again right now.
Khalil's_Black_Excellence
The King of Fighters
Nah I don't want to ruin anything at this point. I've already said a lot about how I feel about both in this thread and others I think.
Honestly, I thought the first and last acts of Vesperia were just a mess straight up. The cast carries that game (moreso with Flynn added in the new version)...
there's almost no chance you'll like vesperia more. you'd be the extreme outlier - and everyone agrees that vesperia is a very, very good game. You won't find anyone worth having their opinion heard say that Vesperia is a bad game. Its damn good.
Berseria is just the best in the series and its also a result of a myriad of lessons learned from previous games. There was a lot of trial and error along with real risktaking breaking away from constants within the tales franchise to get to Berseria and they nailed it.
If 2020 wasn't loaded with great games I'd be playing Berseria again right now.
Word. Good to hear and much appreciated bruh. I skimmed through the thread and dodged most story points for Berseria among not getting spoiled by any within reviews either. Still highly looking forward to it. Going to wrap up Vesperia either tonight or tomorrow morning...I think...hopefully.
Then, I'll take a brief RPG break and beat Ghosts of Tshushima before queueing up Berseria.
Khalil's_Black_Excellence
The King of Fighters
Word. Good to hear and much appreciated bruh. I skimmed through the thread and dodged most story points for Berseria among not getting spoiled by any within reviews either. Still highly looking forward to it. Going to wrap up Vesperia either tonight or tomorrow morning...I think...hopefully.
Just beat that shyt, Vesperia.
Buttfukk Duke!
Berseria is coming up next. May beat Ghosts of Tshushima first...or I may play them in tandem...probably.
I'd take a break tbhJust beat that shyt, Vesperia.
Berseria is coming up next. May beat Ghosts of Tshushima first...or I may play them in tandem...probably.
Plus Ghost is damn good
bigdaddy88
The King Of Power
Just beat that shyt, Vesperia.
Berseria is coming up next. May beat Ghosts of Tshushima first...or I may play them in tandem...probably.
to complete the story cypher for berseria i would play zestria first, but if just want the good from the tales series then yea go ahead and play berseria next
great storytelling and great cast of characters
Khalil's_Black_Excellence
The King of Fighters
Started my Berseria playthrough now. I'm about 19 hours into it. Getting the gist of the combo system now. It's pretty dope.
Khalil's_Black_Excellence
The King of Fighters
Nah I don't want to ruin anything at this point. I've already said a lot about how I feel about both in this thread and others I think.
Honestly, I thought the first and last acts of Vesperia were just a mess straight up. The cast carries that game (moreso with Flynn added in the new version)...
there's almost no chance you'll like vesperia more. you'd be the extreme outlier - and everyone agrees that vesperia is a very, very good game. You won't find anyone worth having their opinion heard say that Vesperia is a bad game. Its damn good.
Berseria is just the best in the series and its also a result of a myriad of lessons learned from previous games. There was a lot of trial and error along with real risktaking breaking away from constants within the tales franchise to get to Berseria and they nailed it.
If 2020 wasn't loaded with great games I'd be playing Berseria again right now.
Aite brehs. So I took a pause on my Ghosts of Tshushima about 15-20 hours into the game to go ahead and start up my Berseria run, thinking I'd play them in tandem, but I've been playing Berseria more the past couple of weeks, practically in isolation (partially cuz I've just been in a heavy RPG mindset since pandemic started and also, easier to whistle while I work
...with them.So I'm now 53-ish hours into Berseria, technically 30 hours into the game due to idle time within extensive pauses and menu management (another convenient of modern technology does that this game actually displays the differentiation within its records log
) and man, ya'll brehs ain't neva lied. This shyt is blowing Vesperia out the water in most departments. The battle system, while yes, more streamlined, just fukking works a lot better. Keeps the battles well paced and better balanced with its side quest earning, adjustable difficulty settings (which is graciously appreciated; I'm playing on Intense now and it's challenging, but nothing too crazy; unlike the disparity of Vesperia's too easy Normal mode and seemingly New game+ balanced Hard mode) and linked encounters actually increasing the field/dungeon enemy levels on top of their increased numbers, which is dope. Also, the fight mechanics being as they are just makes the battles a lot more dynamic and fun to play. Took me less time to get acclimated too, due to it's lightened complexity, but there's still plenty of depth with it as well and it just flows much better, instead of the stupid shyt how battles would flow in Vesperia when you're too strong for your opponents and they literally run away the whole fight and you chasing them the whole battle. Or the dumbshyt like them being weaker than you, but able to jab you out of every fukking attack
. shyt like that really ruins the fight vibe. Ya'll weren't lying a bit with saying how OP Velvet is as well, 
! I just keep her as my sub character when battles get under way with me, like everyone starting to get two-pieced or 1-shotted to death or mass status effected with no souls left. I got all 6 characters now and the tagging in and out of battle option is glorious. Definitely hope they keep this feature in future projects and make it more integral in multi-casted RPGs in general.The cast is surprisingly better than Vesperia's as well, overall. Like ya'll mentioned, it's just spread out better among them and it's still very entertaining and well voice acted. So glad it has auto-scrolling vocal dialogue as well. That shyt was painfully annoying in Vesperia with it needing button clicks for every new line of vocals.
I'm surprised at the music and dungeon lack of variety barely phased me when comparing to Vesperia's only boons over Berseria. Story is much better and the "villain" route is just
tripleaamin
All Star
Wrapped this up last week as my first Tales of Game. It was a great game and a must-play if you are really into JRPG's. The characters and story really carry it. (Which I believe is the strength of Tales of games based on what I read) You really get attached to all 6 of your party members. And it always felt like none of them was left to dry, which can happen in a lot of JRPG's. Also, the skits were my favorite part of the game. They always were of high quality, which I loved. Also, the approach of playing as the villains was a nice change of pace.
Combat was very dope. In theory, Velvet is kind of OP so if you are playing on the easier difficulties you can brute force with her. If you are playing on hard (if you are under-leveled significantly), evil or chaos. You can't get away with that. You need to be able to exploit weaknesses, optimize each characters' combos, and know what each character does well in terms of their style. Once you get a full party team with reserves the combat jumps up a notch.
The big drag is the overworld. It is kind of just their I guess. For the most part, it isn't bad to ruin the experience. However, the last 2 dungeons in the game point out the issue, Still with it being a PS3 game as well as a base PS4 game you understand that there are limitations.
The story for the most part is a slow burn, which you should expect coming. But once you get to the end of act i and when you get to the twist of the game, the story becomes much more engaging and gets better. The game also does a nice job at wrapping up all the loose ends.
Was able to get both Zesteria and Vesperia for $10 each recently. Definitely looking forward to playing them whenever I get the chance.
Combat was very dope. In theory, Velvet is kind of OP so if you are playing on the easier difficulties you can brute force with her. If you are playing on hard (if you are under-leveled significantly), evil or chaos. You can't get away with that. You need to be able to exploit weaknesses, optimize each characters' combos, and know what each character does well in terms of their style. Once you get a full party team with reserves the combat jumps up a notch.
The big drag is the overworld. It is kind of just their I guess. For the most part, it isn't bad to ruin the experience. However, the last 2 dungeons in the game point out the issue, Still with it being a PS3 game as well as a base PS4 game you understand that there are limitations.
The story for the most part is a slow burn, which you should expect coming. But once you get to the end of act i and when you get to the twist of the game, the story becomes much more engaging and gets better. The game also does a nice job at wrapping up all the loose ends.
Velvett was done very nicely. Her arc is kind of wild all things considered. She starts the sweet 16-year-old girl. Then gets betrayed by Artorious and gets consumed for wanting revenge. Then she gets betrayed by Laphicet when she learns the truth. But after that, she becomes a super likable character. Who can't look back on all the people she killed before your mental head changed. Which is why I really liked the ending since there was no way she could go back to being normal.
Phi was extremely well done as a child party member. His dynamic with all the other party members is great. He is always looking out for both Velvett and Eleanor. He feeds off of Magilou's crazy personality. And he gels perfectly with Rokorou and Eizen with their guy talk. And the confidence he gains as the story goes through is was a joy to see very well done.
Rokorou was definitely the most limited character. He mostly just talks about getting stronger, his brother or bugs essentially. But he is one of the few early on that gelled well with Eleanor. Although in terms of combat he did felt the least fun to me.
I might not know everything about Eizen since I haven't gotten to Zesteria yet. Still, he is definitely the most likable character to me. But you can see the burden that he carries regarding his sister and the reaper's curse. He is the one who actually is the one who gets Phi to build his confidence. It is clear why he is voted as the favorite party member from Berseria. Also, he was very fun to play in combat.
Magilou was a character initially who I thought was going to hate. But she actually grew on me as the story progressed. Her obnoxious nature complimented the rest of the team. But as the story progressed you see that she knows a lot of shyt that is going on that the rest of the party isn't aware of.
Eleanor initially was an odd one. But her relationship with Velvett was very interesting especially when Velvett's heart opened again. Plus her very pure-hearted nature gelled with the rest of the team pretty well. But you do feel bad for her as she learns the truth about the Abby.
Phi was extremely well done as a child party member. His dynamic with all the other party members is great. He is always looking out for both Velvett and Eleanor. He feeds off of Magilou's crazy personality. And he gels perfectly with Rokorou and Eizen with their guy talk. And the confidence he gains as the story goes through is was a joy to see very well done.
Rokorou was definitely the most limited character. He mostly just talks about getting stronger, his brother or bugs essentially. But he is one of the few early on that gelled well with Eleanor. Although in terms of combat he did felt the least fun to me.
I might not know everything about Eizen since I haven't gotten to Zesteria yet. Still, he is definitely the most likable character to me. But you can see the burden that he carries regarding his sister and the reaper's curse. He is the one who actually is the one who gets Phi to build his confidence. It is clear why he is voted as the favorite party member from Berseria. Also, he was very fun to play in combat.
Magilou was a character initially who I thought was going to hate. But she actually grew on me as the story progressed. Her obnoxious nature complimented the rest of the team. But as the story progressed you see that she knows a lot of shyt that is going on that the rest of the party isn't aware of.
Eleanor initially was an odd one. But her relationship with Velvett was very interesting especially when Velvett's heart opened again. Plus her very pure-hearted nature gelled with the rest of the team pretty well. But you do feel bad for her as she learns the truth about the Abby.
Was able to get both Zesteria and Vesperia for $10 each recently. Definitely looking forward to playing them whenever I get the chance.
