Takeoff (The Migos) Killed In Houston

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This is one of the best responses in here and all facts...

And it's a major, major problem...



That doesn't change the outcome here, only a different person is killed...

The access to guns is outta control and near the root of the problem, though...



Nobody is murdering anyone over Monopoly money or Uno...
This is America ..you know you can find a murder motive for anything any scenario unfortunately




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Mental disorders and lack of quality conflict resolution skills are a major foundational issue in this country and society at large
 

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RIP Takeoff. That brother should not have been killed. He always seemed like a good dude and didn’t seem to get caught up in bullshyt

My thing is this, people keep saying he was killed by his “own people” and they referring to the guys he was with. But even if he was killed by someone from the other crew, that’s his “own people” too. We are killing our own people over bullshyt. Money, crew, ego, representing. It’s all bullshyt.

We are killing our own people. I know we make fun of the saying but we really are supposed to be brothers. This shyt shouldn’t be happening.

Hiphop isn’t the blame, but it definitely isn’t doing a lot to help. It promotes the very same “fukk everybody, I gotta get mines” attitude that is central to a lot of these killings. It also largely promotes murder against black people. When so much of our music is about killing another black man, it’s hard for that to not have a knock on effect in our community

The bigger blame though is guns. Having easy access to guns is a problem. All these dudes dying from gun violence. Guns is the main contributing factor. Take out the guns and all you got is a fight. Add guns and you got a murder.

Another big factor is disunity. We need to bring our people together and stop seeing each other as enemies. With or without hiphop we need to teach respect for one another in our community. We are our own people.

And until we get our shyt together, everyone having easy access to guns and drugs is only making shot worse.
One thing about it, it would be less murder if there were no guns…but don’t think it ain’t demons out here that wouldn’t pull an ice pick out their pants and get busy
 

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When a nikka robbed me few weeks ago in Jersey City, I wasnt thinkin, damn, if only son was able to diagnose his mental health. :shaq2:

these nikkas is just bums, lazy, lookin to make a quick $$ to get some designers and buy bottles for I.G.

:mjpls:

He values money over life. 1 of the three i pointed out. Probably stems from some type of PTSD growing up or he just saw you as a come up. Weak morals and values plus a quick opportunity
 

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Smh I was at day party four or five years ago where a good dude who didn’t have anything to do with the altercation got shot in the head in the cross fire when idiots started shooting….was on a rooftop with only one way up and down and had to walk pass him as he lay lifeless on the ground…the senselessness of it all and how little life is valued is giving me flashbacks
Nikkas gotta peep situations before they escalate and stop being so attracted to fukkery and be ready to dip

Far too many nikkas catch strays when just 10 seconds before they were:pachaha:
 

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Quick question. Seeing as this was Texas, if they can prove Quavo's people shot first, do they catch a charge for Takeoffs death? I'm assuming if what I read is true, someone from their camp is catching a charge.
 

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Quick question. Seeing as this was Texas, if they can prove Quavo's people shot first, do they catch a charge for Takeoffs death? I'm assuming if what I read is true, someone from their camp is catching a charge.
Discharge in a public place resulting in the death of someone. Whoever that is, is going to jail.
 

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Makes no damn sense. Over a fukkin dice game?

What will it take for hip-hop culture to remove itself from gang culture? Because this is getting stupid, stupid.
 

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Not to derail but the problem with people always invoking "talking points" rehetoric is it's turned into a release valve for accountability or discussion. It's used as a blunt pejorative as opposed to actually addressing anything.

There are people on here that come from some of the worst cities/hoods in America (I can't be the only one) and seen shyt like this happen ALL the time. You would have a point if you actually addressed this situation with good faith instead of a blanket dismissal of it all because nikkas are saying some shyt that makes you uncomfortable.

You would also have more of a point of this wasn't a COMMON occurrence at dice games. This ain't some freak accident ":ohhh: oh wow. DAAAAMN bruh" situation

If anybody is acting suburban it's the nikkas acting surprised that a hood dice game at 4am ended in a fight and a fatal shooting. The dollar amount ain't even relevant this exact same situation has happened over FAR less

I've said it before but black folks can blame everybody under the sun for shyt, and that blame is warranted definitely, but the second it's time to address our own shyt that we can deal with and fix nikkas come out the wood work with the blame shifting and fake moralizing

We love to stick our heads in the sand during times like these, maybe throw out a quick generic":wow:we gotta do better y'all" but when the coast is clear we go right back to playing

Most of the people commenting in here haven't been in these situations, so it's easy to brush off the risk volunteering for these situations presents. So you're right, those are the squares in here, the ones who have no issue with being in this setting "just minding your business"...

And just so I'm clear to the non comprehending brothers in here, I'm not blaming Takeoff for his death, he didn't ask someone to shoot him. I'm not blaming Quavo for his death, he didn't ask someone to shoot his nephew...

What I am calling into the light, though, is the judgement for these brothers to be in this setting at this stage of their lives and careers. That isn't good judgement, and these are guys that many, many young black men aspire to be, young brothers want to be Quavo and Takeoff, so then there is a direct correlation to the images these brothers, and others like them, perpetuate and how it continues to be the primary PUBLIC influencer (re: stereotype) of Black America...

The comprehension-challenged brothers on here still won't get it, I just thought I'd take a moment to clarify very directly the stance I'm coming from...

But what did rap have to do with Takeoff getting killed though? :francis:

This had nothing to do with rap. A lot of these rappers who are killed are not killed because of rap

None of these rappers are killed from "rap". Being a "rapper" isn't a dangerous occupation...

People in here understand what's going on...

The Jews are following supply and demand that’s not their responsibility.

The people with the resources and influence to gatekeep aren't doing so. Regular Joe's and Jane's in black communities across America aren't creating the demand, they are following the images passed down to them...

I'm not saying you said that the common folk are creating the demand, but some people clearly feel that way, and I disagree strongly with it...

it absolutely does.... :dahell:

we know our homicide and rate for violence is higher which is why rappers shouldn't be reveling in and going back to these areas and putting themselves amongst that element. gambling with some hood dudes you don't know and fighting with them over money you chose to gamble is a prime example of putting yourself in a shyt position, unfortunately Takeoff was the one to get hit, but even if this weren't a shooting, it already turned violent with a fight (per circulating stories)...as i said, show me the white artists who put themselves in this position? they don't because that's not their mentality nor what their fans expect from them


and to the bolded, they do have the same challenges, minus institutional racism, but yet they not killing each other the same way

You preaching in here, sister...
 
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Who creates the demand though?

Go on Apple Music, under Hip Hop - look at what songs Apple is recommending you listen to at the top of the list.

300 Blackout - Kodak Black
Bag Talk - Polo G

Listen to these songs or read the lyrics.

I'm not talking down on these brothers and they art, but they are creating this music in part because it's what the record labels want to sell to our people.
stop it b, if rainbows and lollipops sold. these labels would trip over themselves to sell it. they dont care about black people either way.
 

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Stop getting so emotional that someone has a different point of view than you.
It’s not about that. I been posting on this shyt since back on before this shyt existed and we was on Sohh. I’m a Coli vet. If it were that simple I wouldn’t have been posting for as long as I have.
 

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This is America ..you know you can find a murder motive for anything any scenario unfortunately




:francis:

Mental disorders and lack of quality conflict resolution skills are a major foundational issue in this country and society at large


Clearly I wasn't doubting the possibility of it happening or having happened; it was pretty obvious I was stating that people murdering over Monopoly money or Uno isn't something that happens with anything close to regularity...
 
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