T.I. Says Iggy Azalea Criticism Pisses Him Off

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Lol@Euro-Australians trying to class Aborigines...sorry Australians...sorry AustralASIAns as black.
 

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Your last post's logic was that a person is black if they are treated a certain oppressive way and have brown skin. Such a notion potentially makes many brown-skinned peoples "black" .This standard is absurd as my reduction shows. In other words: nonsense.



The lines we attach significance when it comes to defining race and separating peoples are social but they are still there, like the biological lines we use to separate rats and turtles into different groups are social when we assign significance to them too. Everything we interpret is in fact social as we interpret it, that does not make those classifications invalid. They are as invalid as the significance of the lines used to separate them. As there are tenets to ethnicity, so there is validity. Whether you want to say those matter enough for us to care is another question, but what some person believes somewhere does not invalidate obvious fact.
There is a term that already is used for people of African descent, it's "African". The term "Black" is historically applied to more than just Africa. "Race" is a concept that is used to classify people into groups and is inherently linked to social, cultural and historical context. The concept of a "Black race" includes both African and Aborigines as different subgroups within that classification. Aborigines are not African, but they are Black
 

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Some of the mythological bullshyt yall make up about black people is hilarious. So anybody that has brown skin and is tr.eated a certain way in a certain place is "black" now, because you said so. Mexicans in Jan Brewers Arizona must be black too.

you're saying these people aren't black just because they're not descendent from Africa?

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There is a term that already is used for people of African descent, it's "African". The term "Black" is historically applied to more than just Africa. "Race" is a concept that is used to classify people into groups and is inherently linked to social, cultural and historical context. The concept of a "Black race" includes both African and Aborigines as different subgroups within that classification. Aborigines are not African, but they are Black

you're saying these people aren't black just because they're not descendent from Africa?

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Studies say they are a sort of Pacific Islander type people related to Hindis (notice the hair) so that is what they are :yeshrug:. . Hindis =/= black
 

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The country is Australasia for a reason...

England dashed their criminals to that island more than 200 years ago and all hell broke loose...
 

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Studies say they are a sort of Pacific Islander type people related to Hindis (notice the hair) so that is what they are :yeshrug:. . Hindis =/= black
We are so far off the topic, white Australians call Aborigines Black, Aborigines identify as Black, racism is alive and kicking down under and Australia has a very bloody history, so Tip with the whole "Australians don't see Black/white, racism is American" shyt is just ignorant as hell.
 

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^Have you seen/met Sri Lankans? Some Indians are darker than me....

Are you a Euro-Australian?

me or Roddy Right?

i am a white Aussie. Aborigines are BLACK i don't care if they're technically pacific islander/hindi or whatever the fukk the fact is in Australia, which is what this is all about, they are black and they are treated as black. Maori/Islander/Indian/Hindi whatever are not classified as black here. there's racism towards everyone who's not descendent from the UK around here lol they hated the euros when they came in waves after WWII Italians, Lebonese, Greek etc were all called Wogs & Dagos, Indians & Pakistanis are called curry munchers etc, Asians are called chicks & all that. it's very weird that they hate anyone who comes in on a boat or wasn't born here when their own grandfather may have been exactly the same or even their father in some cases.

When people see the new wave of Sudanese (and other African countries) here they don't say "holy shyt i thought the abbos were black so what are these fellas!?" they are black just like the Aborigines are black and the black Americans that come here are black. i don't think there's many Mexicans or Latino people here. Spain maybe but they would fall under Wog most likely.
 
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