Supreme Court Overturns Roe v. Wade

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That would be deemed unconstitutional with any iteration of the court.
When you think about it yeah it would be unconstitutional by law b/c the Supreme Court and any decisions made on the national level would be considered final.
 

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Tell me you are a corporatist agent sellout without telling me :mjgrin:

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On a side note, I still don’t know how the Hilary hate became so bad. Personally I thought she was bland and a bit entitled but I didn’t hate her. I don’t remember her being a villain back in the day in 2007, 2008, 2009 either. Russians did a number on us. Had people in Iowa talking about emails and Benghazi but couldn’t even tell you where Benghazi was in Libya.
 

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If Dems get rid of the filibuster and pass meaning legislation the Republicans would never have the opportunity to be in power again. Who cares what about what they can possibly do when they get back in power? If you pass meaningful legislation it won't matter. Dems need more bodies in their seats who arent Manchin & Sinema. The time is now to get bold while people are angry. They will miss this opportunity for Nov thinking they can run on it next election but there wont be one that matters because Republicans will bring everything to halt. That nut DeSantis will become president in 2024 and its over.
 

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If Dems get rid of the filibuster and pass meaning legislation the Republicans would never have the opportunity to be in power again. Who cares what about what they can possibly do when they get back in power? If you pass meaningful legislation it won't matter. Dems need more bodies in their seats who arent Manchin & Sinema. The time is now to get bold while people are angry. They will miss this opportunity for Nov thinking they can run on it next election but there wont be one that matters because Republicans will bring everything to halt. That nut DeSantis will become president in 2024 and its over.
what is meaningful to you might not be meaningful to the people who make up the flyover states and get the same number of senators as california and new york with the added bonus of there being more of them. there is a math problem. then someone might say "but it's possible for the democrats to overcome that math problem and get a substantial majority." how do they overcome it? by running republican-lites in those areas which inherently makes them unreliable votes in the senate or house if they do win.
 

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If Dems get rid of the filibuster and pass meaning legislation the Republicans would never have the opportunity to be in power again. Who cares what about what they can possibly do when they get back in power? If you pass meaningful legislation it won't matter. Dems need more bodies in their seats who arent Manchin & Sinema. The time is now to get bold while people are angry. They will miss this opportunity for Nov thinking they can run on it next election but there wont be one that matters because Republicans will bring everything to halt. That nut DeSantis will become president in 2024 and its over.
The problem is there are more Maines who will elect a nice moderate Republican for tax breaks than a Arkansas who will elect a Democrat for climate change.

Even if they lowered the majority votes from 60 to 55 it’s easier and more likely to be living under Republican majority.

Black people are the Dems only solid base. White people and Latinos can’t be counted on to deliver Texas or Missouri every two years to keep Republicans at bay.
 

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i don't want them to end the filibuster. that might prevent real progress, but it also prevents real bad shyt. the republicans tied up obama's judicial appointments and the frustrated dems responded by only requiring a simple majority for judicial appointments and the repubs had a field day appointing trump's picks. don't think ending the filibuster won't have the same effect especially since the republicans have a built in advantage when it comes to congressional and senatorial races. there will be more times than not that they'll be in power. and apparently telling voters the truth that "hey it could be a lot worse than voting for democrats." isn't enough because fear only gets you so far. so in a filibuster free world telling the voters "you don't want the republicans to have the majority." will be considered fear mongering by democratic shills.

Yup. I remember how mad people were when they announced they were going to nominate Barrett 2 hours after RBG was declared dead. Confirmed that hoe eight days before election day. That's the sorta evil you only see in comic books, and because they no longer needed a supermajority for judicial picks, welp. Couldn't do sh*t about it. People not thinking clearly. You give them a simple majority requirement for everything and we will live to regret it. Like now. Technically Harry Reid deserves some blame for Roe v. Wade being overturned because him choosing to get rid of the supermajority requirement back in 2013 led to Dems not being able to oppose Barrett's confirmation, which led to the 5-4 vote.
 
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Sometimes I think liberals can hear and read all the rhetoric about how awful Republicans are and understand it. But they fail to understand the perspective of why Republicans are doing the things they do. Republicans perspective is that they are under existential threat by demonic radicals and any and every measure including violence is on the table. They are no longer thinking in a political terms. They are thinking in Civil War terms. They are reaching a point they would love to be able to gun their "enemies" in the street. The time for debate and following the traditional rules of politics is over.

Everything and anything for their side to win will be done and there is nothing democrats can do, politically, will stop it. Like you said, once they take office there will be no debate or consideration of whether they should remove the filibuster if it becomes an obstacle. They will do it quickly and move on enacting their agenda.

They can't do it without a supermajority and the only way they'll get that is if Americans are dumb enough to give Republicans majority control of the Senate. To the point that they don't need any votes from Democrats. And if Americans do, then we deserve everything that's coming to us :manny:
 

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If Dems get rid of the filibuster and pass meaning legislation the Republicans would never have the opportunity to be in power again.
nah, unfortunately not, with the rules the way they are

the Senate and the electoral college are affirmative action for republicans, and rural white rednecks. i wish the democrats would call that out more
 
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