Super Tuesday Primary: Biden wins 9 of 14 states; leads delegate count 637 to 559

Who Comes Out With The Most Pledged Delegates After Super Tuesday?


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Read the replies. :jbhmm:



Very true. Maybe an enthusiastic Warren endorsement or even her joining the ticket could change that. No, she’d definitely have to be on the ticket. These Warren stans absolutely idolize her in a way that makes me believe a lot of the ones left are all former Hillary stans. If she begged them some would probably fall in line. Who knows. Sanders/Warren with Warren headlining next for 2024 would be incredible for this country
 

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So no one else concerned trump has been fighting for bernie to win for months now?
He wants to troll the Democratic voter base by using actions toward Sanders to hurt the DNC and media's credibility. They threw the kitchen sink at Bernie and slogged through an impeachment for Biden. Republicans will weaponize all of it.

Dotard can see that but yall deny it.
I'm talking about progressive voters tearing her down, not Bernie himself.

The base shouldn't have turned it into a popularity contest.
Look at the margins and turnout for the progressive vote. Do you REALLY think 2 progressives would have a chance to be 1 and 2 ahead of Biden?

Strategically one had to go and Liz ended up selling out and betraying her campaign message to stop bernie anyway.
 
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They’ll deny literally all of these facts and tell us it’s because our candidates are shytty :pachaha:
No, it's because the Democratic party as a whole has espoused many of those policy in some way or another.

We've seen the breakdowns on each of those and people aren't turned off by the moderate position either.
 

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Never heard of this dude, but Bernie should hire him as an adviser:wow:
If Kulinski was running this shyt Biden would’ve dropped out in December with Kamala. We’d be going up against maybe Pete, Liz and Bloomberg, straight running up the scoreboard. Instead we’re getting curbstomped on some American History X shyt by a guy who doesn’t know where the fukk he is :pachaha:
 

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Based on which policy though?

70% of Americans support Medicare-for-All

60% of Americans support free college tuition

75% of Americans support the Green New Deal

67% of Americans support raising the minimum wage to $15

74% of Americans support a 2% wealth tax


I could go on like this for a while. There is OVERWHELMING support in America for the entire progressive platform. When it actually comes down to policies, Americans support them. You saw Bernie Sanders go into a Fox News town hall or a Joe Rogan interview and win people over easily with simply policy statements.

The problem is that the rich control the Republican Party, the rich control the Democratic Party, the rich control the media, the rich control the lobbyists, and the rich control campaign funding. So every single race builds around a concerted effort by both parties and everyone with control over the message to fukk up the messaging and worduse and make progressives look like extremists. The ones in the power positions for the most part know what they're doing, then they get their messages repeated through useful idiots like Napolean and the Twitter brigade who may or may not know what they're doing but "trust" the people in power because "they're the good guys", and then regular citizens believe that messaging because it's all they're hearing and they don't know any better. And it's really, really hard to break through that shyt.
It’s insane

Again, the media made angry twitter users a story to avoid talking about policies.

It’s all intentional.

And unfortunately the average voter — including many in this forum — see politics as a game and a win/loss scenario instead of advocating for what they believe. It’s unreal.
 

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Y’all prop up the polls that fit your agenda, then end up looking silly on Election Day.
lets be honest, these polls are probably close to truth for lower to middle to even upper middle class in america in a vacuum. I mean, who doesnt want all of that, in a vacuum ?

but time has proven people dont vote for policies, especially when they step into the booth.

sure, there are those who think that candidates wont give these things, which is fair. this is what @tremonthustler1 said yesterday. I dont think most voters thoughts process work like that though. besides, if you never even try to shoot your shot and always pump fake, you'll never score :manny:
 
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No, it's because the Democratic party as a whole has espoused many of those policy in some way or another.

We've seen the breakdowns on each of those and people aren't turned off by the moderate position either.
See @Rhakim ’s post. Most people support most of these things. We’re lead to believe people don’t by the MSM
 

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Biden Boy Sean Hannity and the Boyz at wall street :blessed:

God Bless America. :blessed:

On a serious tip, if I was poor or didn’t have any health insurance I dunno how long I’d resist the temptation from doing some drastic shyt seeing shyt like this. Drastic will happen at some point if this shyt keeps up
 
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You don't know what building a relationship means?

I'm dead serious. If you can't see the difference between Biden and Bernie with how they interacted with black voters then you don't get it.


Here are a few examples that I gave y'all before super Tuesday:

1. Joe Biden actually showed up at black churches. Something that has long been considered a pillar of the black community. Especially in the south.

So did Bernie. Multiple times actually. Every Dem candidate visits black churches courting votes. This isn't something exclusive to Biden and it's hardly groundbreaking strategy. Its politics 101, which again, Bernie engaged in. And I don't recall anybody turning their back on him when he did it like they did to Bloomberg.

2. Joe Biden can point to his time as Vice President and the changes people saw during that time. He was literally on the ticket that brought us out of the recession. That resonates with people.

I thought we were talking about black voters, who incidentally lost more wealth under the Obama administration as a result of the housing crisis. Why in the hell would that resonate with BLACK voters?

https://www.peoplespolicyproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/Foreclosed.pdf

3. Joe Biden has affirmed that he will not capitulate to the fringe elements of the party who want to abolish ICE and normalize illegal immigration/ open borders. That matters, especially when a lot of Black folks feel like they are competing against illegal immigrants for resources.

Bernie doesn't support open borders, he's made that explicitly clear, abolishing ICE isn't "fringe", and nobody is trying to "normalize illegal immigration". These are right wing and Trump talking points that have very little if anything to do with black voters.

A 2016 study conducted by the University of Pennsylvania found that an increase in the labor supply resulting from immigration could actually generate more employment in industries such as home construction and food production. Simply put, more demand for goods and services means greater demand for those providing those goods and services. While a handful of less-than-credible studies suggest that undocumented immigrants take jobs from U.S.-born black people and Latinos, existing data simply doesn’t bear out a correlation between undocumented immigration and unemployment rates among U.S.-born racial and ethnic minorities.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...rt-most-by-illegal-immigration-gets-pushback/


4. Joe Biden has a history of passing major legislation. You might now like it, but it happens.

Yes, that disproportionately negatively effects black people. :dahell:


5. People view his platform positions as actually achievable.

This is the only point that I will concede to you, but this is one of my problems. This isn't a GOOD thing, lol. People have been so beaten over the head that the policy posiitins that will actually benefit them the most are pie in the sky fantasies that they vote against their best interests.

6. Endorsements from other known commodities that you trust/respect.

My feelings about those endorsements and the people making them set aside, I'll grant you this one as well.


It is what it is. But he's a known commodity with reasonable proposals and has shown a willingness to show up at places a lot of Black folks deem as important.

On the other hand you have a guy who has some pretty good ideas, but hasn't made the effort to directly reach out to pillars of the black community, ignores older voters, and reduces every racial issue down to an issue of class.

shyt ain't rocket science.

Those "pretty good ideas" are light years beyond what Biden is offering and will do to benefit the very people flocking in droves to give him power over their lives. Bernie has made efforts to reach out to pillars of the community. Biden has literally ignored voters in general, young and old, yet this somehow doesn't matter. And we've gone down this road a million times, but I have no interest in debating racial inequality and how to address it WITHOUT also addressing how class inequality is interwoven with it. Identity politics fatigue.

So the only legitimate definitions you've made about Biden "connecting" with black people is that black politicians endorsed him (i.e. what we've been screaming. That his major selling point is that Obama picked him to be VP 12 years ago) and that people feel that his platform represents the status quo.

And that's so damn depressing I don't even have any words for it. :to:
 
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