Suicide Squad (Official Thread)

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Neither you nor I know that. He's a director/writer. He knows what he wants. For all we know he felt that 6 week draft was good enough to start prep on the movie. And he figured he would tinker with the script throughout pre-production/production. It goes on all the time.

That part was of the article was carefully crafted for a reason. Why? I don't know. For all we know the leaked source might've been wanting to shift blame on Ayer for a rushed script. I'm by no means saying the source is right. But I'm sure the source was trying to shovel blame from the studio onto Ayer.

I don't believe Ayer is to blame for Suicide Squad (if it is a bad movie) it seems quite clear the Studio had a different vision than he did for the movie and interfered at some point.
 

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Good thing Tom Hardy and Ryan Gosling passed on it :troll:

Especially when comics aren't your thing. :francis:

WB halted production on BvS to try and find a better script. I don't know why they wouldn't at least wait till he came up with a better one. :dwillhuh:
According to THR:

"another source closely involved with the film says once it was dated, pushing back the release was not an option: "It's not just that you've told the public the movie is coming, you've made huge deals around the world with huge branding partners, with merchandise partners. It's a really big deal to move a tentpole date."

Basically, WB thought marketing was more important than making a good movie :mjlol::stopitslime:
 

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Suicide Squad Goals aka #AllReviewsMatter

'The only DC we shall henceforth acknowledge will be Washington'
The ghost of Joseph Ducreux
I could write extensively about all the things that are wrong with Suicide Squad, and I could put the blame on a whole bunch of people. But I'm just tired. Not because it's 3AM, but because I just don't get it anymore. I get how everything continues to go wrong at WB (and I like to be clear the continuous failure of the DC comic book movies is a WB problem, not a DC problem), I just don't get why? Why is there seriously no one who can get them to get their shyt together? I could deal with BvS being as mediocre as it was because I knew Snyder doesn't have the juice, and it didn't change my anticipation of Suicide Squad one bit. The failure of Suicide Squad is enough to kill my faith in the DCU completely, and I probably can't even watch the excellent Wonder Woman trailer anymore without wondering if behind all that great looking stuff there's a bunch of panicky studio heads fukking the whole thing up.

But that's a matter for the future, and in the present we have to deal with the mess that is Suicide Squad. Somewhere in there, like BvS, is a good movie. Although it never feels like this was ever a good movie, merely a collection of fragments that remind you that you could probably make a good movie based on this material, given enough time to fine tune it. It's a movie based around a team that never ever feels like a team, outside of the main four (Deadshot, Harley, Rick Flag and Diablo) the other characters just seem randomly picked and never really gel. There's a particularly telling scene towards the end where the villain puts them all in a trance living out their fantasy, and it literally shows only the fantasies of the four I mentioned because the other characters are so completely void of history or motivation that they have none, and apparently they didn't bother to make anything up for that moment either.

Speaking of the villain(s), I didn't think they were too bad but it's pretty laughable how they were defeated, and their motivation is so generic and iffy it almost rivals how shytty Doom's motivation was in that last awful FF movie. The designs of them and their henchmen were pretty shyt as well, murky as fukk and one of the movie's biggest action scenes is just a barrage of these cheap looking foes getting gunned down repeatedly. The hundreds of foreign soldiers gunned down by Stallone and Schwarzenegger in the 80s stand out more than these guys, holy fukk.

Matter of fact, nothing just stands out. You kinda want to embrace Jared Leto's Joker but he's just there. He has no dialogue that hits and never really does anything out of the ordinary that sets him apart. In fact, Leto's commitment is probably the only thing preventing it from being the flattest characterization of the Joker I've ever seen in any medium. You can taste it right from the start too, this is the (re)introduction of one of DC's biggest villains and they just throw him out there in one of the opening scenes like whatever, here's this guy. The same goes for the two superhero cameos, they just happen without there being given any weight to their presence in this movie. I kinda want to put the blame here on the editing and pacing, but I could never shake the feeling that Ayer doesn't take some of the blame here as well because even the stuff that works feels like it still needed more work.

I kinda want to draw up a conclusion but the conclusion has been obvious since the beginning of this review, hasn't it? It's a mess of a movie, which could be excused if there was actually anything worthwhile in it. Instead the movie only serves as a constant reminder that they kinda had the right idea making a Suicide Squad movie. And then they started to make this.
 

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So Wonder Woman (feminism) will most likely be the DCEU's first critically acclaimed movie just after Hilary's inauguration into office :wow: you can't make this shyt up :mjlol: @Endiphrint


Wonder Woman trailer looks amazing. But knowing DCEU track record of amazing trailers and...............
 

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Suicide Squad Goals aka #AllReviewsMatter

'The only DC we shall henceforth acknowledge will be Washington'
The ghost of Joseph Ducreux
I could write extensively about all the things that are wrong with Suicide Squad, and I could put the blame on a whole bunch of people. But I'm just tired. Not because it's 3AM, but because I just don't get it anymore. I get how everything continues to go wrong at WB (and I like to be clear the continuous failure of the DC comic book movies is a WB problem, not a DC problem), I just don't get why? Why is there seriously no one who can get them to get their shyt together? I could deal with BvS being as mediocre as it was because I knew Snyder doesn't have the juice, and it didn't change my anticipation of Suicide Squad one bit. The failure of Suicide Squad is enough to kill my faith in the DCU completely, and I probably can't even watch the excellent Wonder Woman trailer anymore without wondering if behind all that great looking stuff there's a bunch of panicky studio heads fukking the whole thing up.

But that's a matter for the future, and in the present we have to deal with the mess that is Suicide Squad. Somewhere in there, like BvS, is a good movie. Although it never feels like this was ever a good movie, merely a collection of fragments that remind you that you could probably make a good movie based on this material, given enough time to fine tune it. It's a movie based around a team that never ever feels like a team, outside of the main four (Deadshot, Harley, Rick Flag and Diablo) the other characters just seem randomly picked and never really gel. There's a particularly telling scene towards the end where the villain puts them all in a trance living out their fantasy, and it literally shows only the fantasies of the four I mentioned because the other characters are so completely void of history or motivation that they have none, and apparently they didn't bother to make anything up for that moment either.

Speaking of the villain(s), I didn't think they were too bad but it's pretty laughable how they were defeated, and their motivation is so generic and iffy it almost rivals how shytty Doom's motivation was in that last awful FF movie. The designs of them and their henchmen were pretty shyt as well, murky as fukk and one of the movie's biggest action scenes is just a barrage of these cheap looking foes getting gunned down repeatedly. The hundreds of foreign soldiers gunned down by Stallone and Schwarzenegger in the 80s stand out more than these guys, holy fukk.

Matter of fact, nothing just stands out. You kinda want to embrace Jared Leto's Joker but he's just there. He has no dialogue that hits and never really does anything out of the ordinary that sets him apart. In fact, Leto's commitment is probably the only thing preventing it from being the flattest characterization of the Joker I've ever seen in any medium. You can taste it right from the start too, this is the (re)introduction of one of DC's biggest villains and they just throw him out there in one of the opening scenes like whatever, here's this guy. The same goes for the two superhero cameos, they just happen without there being given any weight to their presence in this movie. I kinda want to put the blame here on the editing and pacing, but I could never shake the feeling that Ayer doesn't take some of the blame here as well because even the stuff that works feels like it still needed more work.

I kinda want to draw up a conclusion but the conclusion has been obvious since the beginning of this review, hasn't it? It's a mess of a movie, which could be excused if there was actually anything worthwhile in it. Instead the movie only serves as a constant reminder that they kinda had the right idea making a Suicide Squad movie. And then they started to make this.
@TheGodling did it again :wow:

thank you for your review. i guess we got our official confirmation folks :wow:
 

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That dumb bytch tweeted she never read a suicide squad comic in her entire life.....

I was like :mjlol: then you have no idea on how these characters are supposed to be....

You dont understand ANYTHING about their background story or DC lore to even talk shyt about them...

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:snoop:
 

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Wonder Woman trailer looks amazing. But knowing DCEU track record of amazing trailers and...............

This will be the outlier. I'm absolutely sure of it. Especially off the heels of Hillary "Wonder Woman" Clinton becoming the "Leader of the Free World" :mjpls:.
 

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Wonder Woman trailer looks amazing. But knowing DCEU track record of amazing trailers and...............
Theres prob gonna be reshoots where the male villain is forced to pull his punches due to the feminists outcry over the parallel nature of abusive relationships
 

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DC needs to go back to the drawing board NOW. Nothing good comes from this.

Moviegoers aren't gonna trust a brand that's had three poorly received movies in a row.

Actors/directors/writers aren't gonna want to attach their names to these critical dumpster fires and financial disappointments

Casual fans trying get into comics are gonna want to shy away from DC altogether, thinking their comics must be lame because their movies are lame.
 

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I think they should have gone with a more grounded approach in the first movie. Like Waller putting the squad together for some heist type thing *cough* Assault on Arkham. Save the more mythical story for the sequel.
Watching the first Comic Con trailer I thought thats exactly what they were doing.

Then again I should have known by the soldiers :patrice: I still didn't think it was gonna be any mythical shyt.

Still...why have wack ass Rick Flag and his soldiers in the movie anyway. They don't need him for the first movie. Do something like you said. :ehh:
 

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So Wonder Woman (feminism) will most likely be the DCEU's first critically acclaimed movie just after Hilary's inauguration into office :wow: you can't make this shyt up :mjlol: @Endiphrint



Exactly! Exactly! Exactly! I hate, I absolutely hate to come off like an Alex Jones type, or tin foil on my head hiding in the basement type, but at times you cant help but :dwillhuh::jbhmm::ohhh::snoop:. I mean c'mon already! I dont have a problem with women having strong roles including leadership in film, business, government, etc.. And although I disagres with most of the way modern day feminism is preached and attempted to apply, I cant front as they do have some valid points especially on sexism. That said, we've seen strong roles in entertainment delivered both for and handled quite well by women. Sigourney Weaver, Linda Hamilton, Lucy Lawless, and in more recent times Charlize Theron and Noomi Rapace. Fukk Daisy Ridley and subsequently John Buffoonyega.

What bugs me though with the more recent roles for women is the coincidence and increase of these roles for white women, along with the curious popularity of 3rd wave feminism on college campuses, social media, and Hollywood, along with an imminent Executive administration headed by Hillary Clinton. If I hear the word "badass" in media referencing something related to an anorexic white woman again I might snap breh. Star Wars comes back with a emo Sith apprentice and Jedi Mary Sue, Ghostbusters reboots with a 3 Men and a Baby theme replaced by a 3 White Women and a Buffoon theme along with a prominent actor playing a ditzy secretary? Yeah okay. The reviews for the last couple of years superhero flicks have been mediocre too, so I'm gonna be REAL CURIOUS to see how critics treat Wonder Woman during Adolf Hildler's first year as leader of the "free" :mjlol: world.


Look at this nonsense too :mjlol: I cant tell if its a porn parody :lolbron: or propoganda for a braindead populace. :jbhmm:

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Why do Kanye bars about his wife come to mind after seeing that promo pic :jbhmm:
 
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