Subliminal Disses You Missed

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Gza getting at Kane

The Wu is too slammin for these Cold Chilling labels,
Some ain’t have hits since Aubt Mabel
We doin’ artists like Cain (Kane) did Abel,
Now they money getting stuck to the gum under the table (Gumby hairstyle Kane rocked and underhanded tactics)
:ohhh:


Most of Commons I used to lover H.E.R. Aimed at West Coast cats and Das Efx

Guru dissin Naughty

And even claim you got new styles but.
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Rolling your tongue's been played out for a while
And you don't sound fly so why are you doing that?
You had a dope track but you're wack so you ruined that
I couldn't make out what you were saying
Your diction Is jumbled where as me I'm conveying clear thoughts


Common sent a shot at Onyx too

"They talk about Slammin' H.E.R. and taking her to the sewer"
 

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Then we gonna creep to South Central
On a street knowledge mission
as I steps in the temple
Spot him, got him, as I pulls out my strap
Got my chrome to the side of his White Sox hat
You trying to check my homie, you better check yourself
Cause when you diss Dre you diss yourself
, motherfukker

How you gone diss Cube then have him in a video for the same album? :dwillhuh:
 

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I mentioned this before but A.G. dissing the Lords of the Underground on "Next Level"

"What's the remedy?
Suckers better get they own identity
And to the enemy, you better roll like it's ten of me
Fake Lords, they get strangled with mic cords
Taking beats from my LP, for sure ain't healthy"

This is a shot, because they used the same sample (which was a no no back then) and plus them biting off Lord Finesse, his DITC partner.
 

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X went at them on Trina Moe joint "3 nikkas, 3 months to go Gold?" line, probably some internal Ruff Ryders shyt.

it was cause of the aayliah lines the lox used towards the roc when dissing them...kiss 'i'm send you to meet your man's girl'...and the styles infamous '1 less bytch in a rocawear coat' line....yea yea, i know he says he never said it, but people have heard it...

that's the reason dame was on rap city pissed at them, when he was talking about 'you can come at me, but leave some shyt out of it'....
 

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it was cause of the aayliah lines the lox used towards the roc when dissing them...kiss 'i'm send you to meet your man's girl'...and the styles infamous '1 less bytch in a rocawear coat' line....yea yea, i know he says he never said it, but people have heard it...

that's the reason dame was on rap city pissed at them, when he was talking about 'you can come at me, but leave some shyt out of it'....
I don't think Styles said that line but Jadakiss definitely said "I make sure you visit your man's girl" so I could still see that.
 

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this was a popular theory pre internet in staten island. bone thugs being on it kind of confirms it to me due to the rumored subliminal beef.

Biggie dissin wu on notorious thugs

Armed and dangerous, ain't too many can bang with us
Straight up weed no angel dust, label us Notorious
Thug ass nikkas that love to bust, it's strange to us
Y'all nikkas be scramblin', gamblin'
Up in restaraunts with mandolins, and violins

We just sittin' here tryin' to win, tryin' not to sin
High off weed and lots of gin
So much smoke need oxygen, steadily countin' them Benjamins
nikka you should too, if you knew
What this game'll do to you
Been in this shyt since ninety-two
Look at all the bullshyt I been through
So-called beef with you know who
fukked a few female stars or two
Then I blew like, nikkas knew like Mike, shyt,
Not to be fukked with
Motherfukker better duck quick, 'cause
Me and my dogs love to buck shyt
fukk the luck shyt, strictly aim
No aspirations to quit the game
Spit yo' game, talk yo' shyt
Grab yo' gat, call yo' click
Squeeze yo' clip, hit the right one
Pass that weed, I got to light one
All them nikkas I got to fight one
All them hoes I got ta like one
Our situation is a tight one
Whatcha gonna do, fight or run?
Seems to me that you'll take B
Bone and Big, nikka die slowly
I'mma tell you like a nikka told me
Cash Rule Everything Around Me

shyt, lyrically, nikkas can't see me
fukk it, buy the coke
Cook the coke, cut it
Know the bytch 'fore you caught yourself lovin' it
nikka with a Benz fukkin' it
Doesn't it seem odd to you
Big come through with mobs and crews
Goodfellas down to the Mo Thugs dudes
Who's the killa, me or you?


Most are self explanatory but...

Scramblin gamblin restaraunts with violins refers to the cuban linx video with the mini casino n shyt. I forget which one it was.

Last line seals it since the killer is the movie sampled all throughout cuban linx. it fits perfectly and was so obvious knowing how biggie did this all the time. if he wasnt doing it all over the album id say it was a reach but the entire thing is filled with subliminal shots so it becomes crazy obvious.

the buck duck clique shyt makes me think he was going at wu and bcc tho. the crews mobs goodfellas (jr mafia) and thugs (bone).. calling out entire crews but dont list clans or cliques (which he caalled out earlier which i think was thebcc diss)
 
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Jay on Thank You:

After the ruger shoots through a few clips (clipse?) You can lay in your casket just as you is (they had already announced Til the Casket Drops as their next album)

Don't think it's ever been confirmed but what Jay subs ever have
Listen to Pusha T verse on ILLIN on Trap or DIE 2.
"Tell Hova don't pass the crown so soon
Unless he got a crown for every writer in the room
There's too many spirits on these ghost-written tunes
So you can't crown the heir until you seance the room
"
 

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One of the overlooked disses in the Royce x D12 beef only because the diss was available in the 20 track retail version and not the double disc version that the majority of the popular disses were on. There were always two versions of the “Build & Destroy” mixtape. This track was done i think around the same time of “Malcolm X”.



I'm on ya phone, ya friends and killers
You Capone 'til I comb the village from home to California
Runnin up on ya Dozen, you cornered
You bust and be gone, I send ya mother a dozen begonias
I make ya boss WISH that he had
Somethin that's more vicious and I'm killin anything that he HAD
Past you, I ain't only lyrically killin you BAD
I'm killin you wit a passion and then I'm sealin your casket SHUT!

Too many problems followin me sayin
That I am the +King+, I am a +dream+, I helps my gang
Not to offend or hurt the work you put it
My street nikkas feel it, it's self-proclamied
So, who wanna creep? What weakling wanna beef?
+Ben Franklin+ run the streets, he came in a +hundred+ DEEP!
You nikkas can keep ya thirty murkers
I offer 'em all extra money man them nikkas is workers
Where was them nikkas when you had dreads, you liar
You Mekhi Phifer, lay on your side like a hyphen
nikka I ain't built for who bytch, what now?
Tell 'em nikkas when I see 'em it's on, they better DUCK (down)

[Chorus: repeat 2X]

A truce is impossible, fukk you
It's over, you was responsible for the drunk you
You punk you, when I see you you better DUCK (down)
BUM!! Wanted them guns to go boom, boom, boom

Yeah, the problem's that all of you did
Somethin that you can't take back, you all know what it is
Compete on wax is what we coulda did
But you think that ya man is so hard just cause he don't rap
What is the street nikka relatin to combat
If he-a put you in the grave then maybe I'm that
Type of nikka like you, I call you a cheapskate
Cause you cheap and when it's beef in the streets you skate
nikka you can't deny the force
35 hundred in the streets, all just so you can die on my porch
Punk! I will bust my gun 'til the round is finished
You gon' kill who I be stickin around for a minute
PLUS, I'll be on my way; you sound like somebody
Who sound like somebody, I don't believe NUTTIN you say (say)
I will make your group feel like shyt!
Plus he hang where I hang, nikka I will take your booth
We get (down)

He never says there names but its mainly directed at Proof. This was after Royce’s ppl got jumped by D12/Trick Trick’s Goon Squad at the club he was on his way to. Allegedly their were rumors of each side putting hits out on one another (someone from Royce’s team got shot or shot at). And Although Royce had some kinda interaction with all the members of D12 he was closest with Proof (they apparently knew each other and were friends before Royce met Eminem)
 

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Gza getting at Kane

The Wu is too slammin for these Cold Chilling labels,
Some ain’t have hits since Aubt Mabel
We doin’ artists like Cain (Kane) did Abel,
Now they money getting stuck to the gum under the table (Gumby hairstyle Kane rocked and underhanded tactics)
:ohhh:


Most of Commons I used to lover H.E.R. Aimed at West Coast cats and Das Efx

Guru dissin Naughty

And even claim you got new styles but.
Independent Leaders - Wikipedia


Rolling your tongue's been played out for a while
And you don't sound fly so why are you doing that?
You had a dope track but you're wack so you ruined that
I couldn't make out what you were saying
Your diction Is jumbled where as me I'm conveying clear thoughts
nah gza wasnt getting at kane , he was getting at the label , this is reaching
 

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They were. They're from close hoods. A few blocks from each other. But In Broken Language, MOP wasn't sure if they were sending shots with the "the Downtown Swinga, the MOP bell ringer", Smooth was shouting them out but MOP kinda took at them going at them.

So on World Famous, Lil Fame said:

"I'm outspoken, fukk a nikkaz Language is Broken
Record labels need to stop that wack shyt they be promotin
See me knowin me G I drop physical science
This lethal rap appliance'll fukk up your whole alliance"

But they all have mutual friends, so it got squashed, and plus they all had real thorough nikkas on their teams so it could've got out of hand. Especially in Brownsville.

People also thought they was going at Big Daddy Kane and his brother on Broken Language too, that's why when they dropped Broken Language 2, they made it known they weren't dissing Kane.

unless there are different versions of Broken Language...I don't see how any of the references could be taken as a diss

I heard the song when Stretch & Bobbito first played it which leads me to think that I heard the original and only version

MOP bell ringer/
the "how about some hardcore?" fan singer/


The Big Daddy Kane..little Daddy Shane overdoers/

as in..two brothers rapping together....Kane let LDS rap on some song he did..


Are you saying that Broken Language 2....was the version that I heard with "how about some hardcore" fan singer ?

Broken Language..or Broken English, which is what i thought t was called at first is one of the greatest songs I've ever heard.....RUINED by a low budget hood video
 

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unless there are different versions of Broken Language...I don't see how any of the references could be taken as a diss

I heard the song when Stretch & Bobbito first played it which leads me to think that I heard the original and only version

MOP bell ringer/
the "how about some hardcore?" fan singer/


The Big Daddy Kane..little Daddy Shane overdoers/

as in..two brothers rapping together....Kane let LDS rap on some song he did..


Are you saying that Broken Language 2....was the version that I heard with "how about some hardcore" fan singer ?

Broken Language..or Broken English, which is what i thought t was called at first is one of the greatest songs I've ever heard.....RUINED by a low budget hood video

Rappers back then were just super sensitive (I guess they still are) about their names being said in raps. And there was always a weird relationship between the two camps, like I said, alot of mutual friends, but there was friendly comp. DV Alias Khrist said when Hustlin' dropped by Smoothe, everyone thought it was Billy Danz. They ain't really like that too much (MOP).

And nah, Broken Language 2 came out about 3 years later, it was suppose to be on Trigger the Gambler's album. Smoothe starts it off with:

"Here come the overdoers, Peace to Shane and Kane we ain't got beef, so don't ask, we just give props to old schoolers".
 

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I mentioned this before but A.G. dissing the Lords of the Underground on "Next Level"

"What's the remedy?
Suckers better get they own identity
And to the enemy, you better roll like it's ten of me
Fake Lords, they get strangled with mic cords
Taking beats from my LP, for sure ain't healthy"

This is a shot, because they used the same sample (which was a no no back then) and plus them biting off Lord Finesse, his DITC partner.

LF aka Mr Funky Man........took offense to one of them using the name "Mr Funky"...and the song"funky child"....he shytted on them.

LOTUG dissed Das Efx on their first single....opening line was "here's how you do a real mic check" or some shyt.....redman was hit squad...but grew up with doo it all of lotug..so that caused problems.....lords and das were both from HBCUs in the Carolinas..so they probably competed in regional talent shows and shyt
 

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Big Daddy Kane dissed Erick Sermon on Show N Prove

"I see the way you're trying to get to me,
but with with speech impedi-ment, man you gotta come better G
You're hitting all the wrong switches troop begin again
Mumble mouth rappers couldn't last a minute with
The non-resistible, non-competible
No, No I'm not sayin' I'm the best, I'm just sayin' I'm fukkin' incredible"


Apparently this started because Sermon had a sub in a song, and one of their mutual friends asked Erick if he was talking about Kane in the song and he said "Yeah". So BDK responded back
 
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