Stunts, Blunts & Basketball: The 2013-14 New York Knicks Season Thread

[ThaBronxBully]

Stats Injuries Are Frustrating But Damn, They Talked To All The Players Yesterday About Basketball, Last Season And Making Jokes

Then Amar'e Comes Up And They Ask Him A Million Questions About His Injuries And If He'll Ever Be The Same, He Looked Mad Uncomfortable

At One Point He Says Something About Returning To Form And There's A Dead Uncomfortable Silence

Seeing The Documentary On Him I Know Its Killing Him

 

[mbewane]

Stats Injuries Are Frustrating But Damn, They Talked To All The Players Yesterday About Basketball, Last Season And Making Jokes

Then Amar'e Comes Up And They Ask Him A Million Questions About His Injuries And If He'll Ever Be The Same, He Looked Mad Uncomfortable

At One Point He Says Something About Returning To Form And There's A Dead Uncomfortable Silence

Seeing The Documentary On Him I Know Its Killing Him

What documentary breh?

 

[ThaBronxBully]

What documentary breh?

Its Called Amar'e Stoudemire "In The Moment" Its On Netflix

 

[DPresidential]

Forgive me for yet another KnickFam monologue...

Amar'e Stoudemire is almost like the main protagonist in a Greek Tragedy. I mean, his fall from physical grace is really saddening. Even though the argument can be had that Stat came here because we offered him the money, there is no question about his work ethic.

Every chance he had to play, he gave 100%. As his legs disintegrated before our eyes from the stands and our tvs, we saw the will and work ethic of a warrior in every dunk, every shot, every attempt and every limp. As ice padded his knees, ice chilled the hearts of the press and of fair-weather fans, for the vultures that circle around the skies of the basketball court don't see a dying man with the beating heart of a champion, they saw just a dying man with a fainting career heart beat.

Yet, would it be any other way? Since the year of 1973, the City of New York starved of the ultimate victory. Our throats parched , literally from the HEAT and atmosphere, it has always been "what if" for the Knicks family. Ironically for the last what if for this current generation of Knicks, we do know the answer to the question, "what if" the Knickerbockers make it to the Final stage against the best West Coast team in a 7 game war. The answer, as if he'd be possessed by the spirit of Willis Reed, we know Stoudemire would take no qualms with completely destroying his body until he couldn't walk just to provide that one point to push us over the edge.

And for that "What if", we thank you, I thank you."

 

[ThaBronxBully]

Forgive me for yet another KnickFam monologue...

Amar'e Stoudemire is almost like the main protagonist in a Greek Tragedy. I mean, his fall from physical grace is really saddening. Even though the argument can be had that Stat came here because we offered him the money, there is no question about his work ethic.

Every chance he had to play, he gave 100%. As his legs disintegrated before our eyes from the stands and our tvs, we saw the will and work ethic of a warrior in every dunk, every shot, every attempt and every limp. As ice padded his knees, ice chilled the hearts of the press and of fair-weather fans, for the vultures that circle around the skies of the basketball court don't see a dying man with the beating heart of a champion, they saw just a dying man with a fainting career heart beat.

Yet, would it be any other way? Since the year of 1973, the City of New York starved of the ultimate victory. Our throats parched , literally from the HEAT and atmosphere, it has always been "what if" for the Knicks family. Ironically for the last what if for this current generation of Knicks, we do know the answer to the question, "what if" the Knickerbockers make it to the Final stage against the best West Coast team in a 7 game war. The answer, as if he'd be possessed by the spirit of Willis Reed, we know Stoudemire would take no qualms with completely destroying his body until he couldn't walk just to provide that one point to push us over the edge.

And for that "What if", we thank you, I thank you."

 

[drewbreez]

You cant really have appropriate conservations with people like you, because you're so constrained by your confirmation biases. As such you will remain hostile to a basic set of facts, and violently move goal posts whenever it suits you. Here you boldly use a lack of talent among teammates as an explanation for KG and PP's complete lack of success for years, but wont extend the same to Melo. Feel free to point to any hall of fame talent in their prime that Melo has been afforded the luxury of playing with, or anyone close for that matter.

And with such, you are aggressively hostile to a the basic fact that Melo has been a winning ball player his whole career. Let me get this straight: the national champion, the guy who helped Denver experience an historic level of improvement his rookie year (first rookie to lead a playoff team in scoring; previously 17-65 the year before w/o any other significant improvements), the guy that overall turned an awful no-acct denver organization for close to a decade into a perennial contender virtually overnight, the guy that led Denver to a western conference final in highly competitive conference w/ the next best player being Billips (whoops there goes your "adjusting" argument"), and the guy that just led the Knicks to its best season in 20 years somehow doesnt understand the team concept, and/or knows how to win.

Because of your fact-free analytic, you are able to construct this narrative of Melo being a loser chucker out of thin air, while continuing to massage that ridiculous argument. You dont care about reality

My bad I forgot AI isn't going to the Hall of Fame. Neither is Chauncey. You right.

I don't have a confirmation bias. His winning percentage in the playoffs doesn't compare to that of elite players. He's very very very very good. And I laid out a logical argument that INCLUDES a statement about KG and PP not adjusting their games enough to win playoff games consistently during their younger years. You see that whole "their talent didn't translate" line? That's what I mean by that. Carmelo improved Denver's outlook early and then plateaued in terms of playoff success. That's true. I don't see what facts you've stated to refute that. I hope he can change that trend but that is the trend right now. And he's paid similarly to players who have vastly improved their teams' playoff successes.

 

[23Barrettcity]

#Knickstape been busy as fukk and ignoring sports media all week until Sundays but at least young melo and the squad back soon

 

[No_bammer_weed]

My bad I forgot AI isn't going to the Hall of Fame. Neither is Chauncey. You right.

I don't have a confirmation bias. His winning percentage in the playoffs doesn't compare to that of elite players. He's very very very very good. And I laid out a logical argument that INCLUDES a statement about KG and PP not adjusting their games enough to win playoff games consistently during their younger years. You see that whole "their talent didn't translate" line? That's what I mean by that. Carmelo improved Denver's outlook early and then plateaued in terms of playoff success. That's true. I don't see what facts you've stated to refute that. I hope he can change that trend but that is the trend right now. And he's paid similarly to players who have vastly improved their teams' playoff successes.

Come the fukk on....A.I was completely disintegrating as a player and as a man by the time he was in Denver. He had one foot out of the league, and one foot on a banana peel at that point. Its clear that you'll say anything at this point to further your anti-melo narrative. LOL @ chanucy billips being a hall of fame player.

So when we talk about KG and PP's lack of success for years, before they linked up, their respective records "dont tell the whole story", but somehow Melo's "playoff record" tells the whole story, and there is no need to analyze it. You're either brazenly stupid, or simply trolling.

 

[23Barrettcity]

 

[23Barrettcity]

Come the fukk on....A.I was completely disintegrating as a player and as a man by the time he was in Denver. He had one foot out of the league, and one foot on a banana peel at that point. Its clear that you'll say anything at this point to further your anti-melo narrative. LOL @ chanucy billips being a hall of fame player.

So when we talk about KG and PP's lack of success for years, before they linked up, their respective records "dont tell the whole story", but somehow Melo's "playoff record" tells the whole story, and there is no need to analyze it. You're either brazenly stupid, or simply trolling.

Hit him with the

And keep it moving

 

[No_bammer_weed]

Hit him with the

And keep it moving

Yeah, its like those far right wing republicans with their obama derangement syndrome. To them, Obama is a kenyan born, socialist, communist, anti-white muslim. There's nothing you can say to get them to form a reasonable opinion.

 

[drewbreez]

Come the fukk on....A.I was completely disintegrating as a player and as a man by the time he was in Denver. He had one foot out of the league, and one foot on a banana peel at that point. Its clear that you'll say anything at this point to further your anti-melo narrative. LOL @ chanucy billips being a hall of fame player.

So when we talk about KG and PP's lack of success for years, before they linked up, their respective records "dont tell the whole story", but somehow Melo's "playoff record" tells the whole story, and there is no need to analyze it. You're either brazenly stupid, or simply trolling.

I mean, you're claiming that you can't have a conversation with "people like me" and that I'm "hostile" but I've never issued an ad hominem attack like you are with these "idiot" labels and other epithets. I think you can be a fan of a player and still acknowledge how his results have fared with his teams. I don't need to be 'anti-Melo' because he's terrific at basketball and when he hits clutch 3s, I feel just like the next fan.

I was pointing out the difference (in terms of results) between him and KG/PP. Allen Iverson was a top 10 scorer while playing with Melo. You can check that for yourself. He was about to hit his decline but was still as productive as the 2 years prior. Yea, I do believe Chauncey Billups will be a HOFer. He has a Finals MVP, a ring and almost 20 years of consistent production. If that's not a HOF career, I don't know what is. I think you're mistaking me understanding where Meloooooo has to improve for the Knicks to reach the next level for "hating." That's a distinction I think every fan can make when not married just to the things he is splendid at doing.

 

[23Barrettcity]

Honestly, the offseason is the time where a dude like @Trip brings something to the table. We don't have any ball to discuss and break dow so let's get all the front office bashing out of the way now Thing is, @Trip will be doing this at the All Star break even if we're leading the division

And that's the problem . Remember how went into the weeds last season until we went on that .500 stretch and then dipped again till we got eliminated

 

[Trip]

I mean, you're claiming that you can't have a conversation with "people like me" and that I'm "hostile" but I've never issued an ad hominem attack like you are with these "idiot" labels and other epithets. I think you can be a fan of a player and still acknowledge how his results have fared with his teams. I don't need to be 'anti-Melo' because he's terrific at basketball and when he hits clutch 3s, I feel just like the next fan.

I was pointing out the difference (in terms of results) between him and KG/PP. Allen Iverson was a top 10 scorer while playing with Melo. You can check that for yourself. He was about to hit his decline but was still as productive as the 2 years prior. Yea, I do believe Chauncey Billups will be a HOFer. He has a Finals MVP, a ring and almost 20 years of consistent production. If that's not a HOF career, I don't know what is. I think you're mistaking me understanding where Meloooooo has to improve for the Knicks to reach the next level for "hating." That's a distinction I think every fan can make when not married just to the things he is splendid at doing.

We'll find out a lot about Melo and his priorities after this season.

 

[ThaBronxBully]

So The New GM Is Thinking About Hiring An Analytical Consultant, Like The Grizz Did With John Hollinger

Ehh Whatever

http://nypost.com/2013/10/01/knicks-president-mills-looks-to-get-analytical/

Melo On Bargs

“There ain’t no pressure on him,” Anthony said of Bargnani handling the move to New York. “You come in and do what you got to do and play ball. All the pressure’s on me. It should be easy for him. It should be an easy transition for him, adjusting. Just do it the right way, it should be easy for him.’’

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/pressure-isn-bargnani-melo-article-1.1473246