Stunts, Blunts & Basketball: The 2013-14 New York Knicks Season Thread

[Shogun]

hahaha I work from home and most of it, I copied and pasted it from having said it in the past. I proved with stats, film, and lj's own words that Lj a horrible defender (That was the long part). 'Melo is an underrated defender whose overall defense ranked in the 69th%tile (a full 19% above average). He was excellent in defending the post up (his position [PF] last season), as he ranked in the 92nd%tile. It's extremely tough to guard those big, strong PF's. Lj's position as PG gives him more opportunities to score and get direct assists but 'Melo has never played that position. He also averages more fga's than 'Melo for his career. This also explains why he averages more ppg than 'Melo. Lj's career fg% is pathetic for a person whose buckets mostly come from within 8ft of the basket. He has also become more efficient after playing with Wade, like KD when Werstbrook joined his team. Lj's rebounding should also be better than a measly 0.6 more per game than 'Melo's because he's always within 8ft of the basket. 'Melo is the better offensive rebounder (the ones that don't just come to you and the ones that count the most because they're 2nd chance pts). 'Melo has more offensive rbs than Lj and KD combined.

Unlike 'Melo, Lj is turnover prone and a poor ball-handler. Lj has all those MVP's because needs a face of the league. Lj has more than Bird, Magic, Duncan, Shaq, and Hakeem. Further proof that the MVP award is a joke is that Nash has more than Barkley, Kobe, Garnett (who I hate but he's a great player), Iverson, Shaq, and Hakeem. Lj doesn't have a mid-range game at all for 'Melo to be better at. Lj shoots a pitiful 32.1% from 15-19ft . Not only does 'Melo have a better mid-range game but he has a better turnaround right/left shoulder, post game, and 3pt game. He's just better. If Lj had to shoot from the perimeter with good defenders draped all over him, like 'Melo, he wouldn't score. He has very little basketball skill. Mostly athleticism and speed but not big enough like Howard or Shaq to still score when a wall is built around the basket (which is exactly what SA was doing to him in the Finals). Plus, Paul George, Kawhi, Tayshaun Prince, Butler, (and of ALL people) old & fat Diaw, Kobe, Melo, etc can keep him in front of them.

When they're on him, he won't even shoot until the whistles start blowing to get these defenders off of him (the most recent incident I can think of is in the bulls series w/ butler). This is why he was so bad in the '11 finals. It's absolutely pathetic how someone can be so easily taken out of a game Dylan Murphy observed, last season, 'Melo shot 56.9% on his turnaround right shoulder fade-away. Dylan commented...


He shot 64.7% on his quick spin baseline from the post, 63.6% on his one-dribble baseline, quick spin middle, etc. You can read Dylan's article on this here. This is why Lj is better than 'Melo.

Are you autistic?

Serious question...

 

[Victim of Racism]

Are you autistic?

Serious question...

No, why do u ask? I appreciate all of you for refusing to read it because it made me realize that I don't have to use all my arguments at once. I'm about to edit it accordingly. Dialoguing on a board dominated by men is a God-send.

 

[Mr. Jack Napier]

F*ck LeBron & anybody who support him

 

[Futuristic Eskimo]

F*ck LeBron & anybody who support him

No one supports lebron. Its just a matter of simply accepting reality.

 

[mvp_status]

I'm sorry but this team is too depressing to be reading anything longer than 5 sentences that's Knicks related

 

[intruder]

F*ck LeBron & anybody who support him

You wouldn't take him if Phil, your new god, recruited him this summer?

 

[Victim of Racism]

You wouldn't take him if Phil, your new god, recruited him this summer?

If I was a Knick fan like that (I like them but not like that), I wouldn't take him. The closet Lj stans that disguise themselves as Knick fans who hype Lj and minimize their own franchise player in favor of Lj are sorry. This false perception that anyone needs Lj is ridiculous. He's a ball hog that can't even give Bosh Wade's shots when Wade is out, minimizing Bosh's ability to help them win games when Wade is out. He's supposed to be “the best player in the world” but he can't even beat the Grizz with Bosh. He's only as efficient because he plays with Wade and Bosh. Before then, his FG% was pathetic for a guy that spends so much time inside 8ft of the basket. Even KD's FG% went up after Westbrook joined the team. Lj can't even crack 50% from the field for his career and he's a dunker. smh Lj only averages 6.9 assists because he plays PG and is the primary ball handler for his team (because he can't play off the ball) leading his team not only in usage, but in touches, giving him more opportunities to have direct assists (as opposed to hockey assists) and always has. Felton averages almost just as many assists for the same reason (6.5) and he was on the Bobcats for most of his career. Lj is not an elite passer and his defense is horrid.

 

[intruder]

If I was a Knick fan like that (I like them but not like that), I wouldn't take him. The closet Lj stans that disguise themselves as Knick fans who hype Lj and minimize their own franchise player in favor of Lj are sorry. This false perception that anyone needs Lj is ridiculous. He's a ball hog that can't even give Bosh Wade's shots when Wade is out, minimizing Bosh's ability to help them win games when Wade is out. He's supposed to be “the best player in the world” but he can't even beat the Grizz with Bosh. He's only as efficient because he plays with Wade and Bosh. Before then, his FG% was pathetic for a guy that spends so much time inside 8ft of the basket. Even KD's FG% went up after Westbrook joined the team. Lj can't even crack 50% from the field for his career and he's a dunker. smh Lj only averages 6.9 assists because he plays PG and is the primary ball handler for his team (because he can't play off the ball) leading his team not only in usage, but in touches, giving him more opportunities to have direct assists (as opposed to hockey assists) and always has. Felton averages almost just as many assists for the same reason (6.5) and he was on the Bobcats for most of his career. Lj is not an elite passer and his defense is horrid.

No disrespect, my dear but

 

[intruder]

If I was a Knick fan like that (I like them but not like that), I wouldn't take him. The closet Lj stans that disguise themselves as Knick fans who hype Lj and minimize their own franchise player in favor of Lj are sorry. This false perception that anyone needs Lj is ridiculous. He's a ball hog that can't even give Bosh Wade's shots when Wade is out, minimizing Bosh's ability to help them win games when Wade is out. He's supposed to be “the best player in the world” but he can't even beat the Grizz with Bosh. He's only as efficient because he plays with Wade and Bosh. Before then, his FG% was pathetic for a guy that spends so much time inside 8ft of the basket. Even KD's FG% went up after Westbrook joined the team. Lj can't even crack 50% from the field for his career and he's a dunker. smh Lj only averages 6.9 assists because he plays PG and is the primary ball handler for his team (because he can't play off the ball) leading his team not only in usage, but in touches, giving him more opportunities to have direct assists (as opposed to hockey assists) and always has. Felton averages almost just as many assists for the same reason (6.5) and he was on the Bobcats for most of his career. Lj is not an elite passer and his defense is horrid.

Okay now i'm ready

My dear, It's well known that Bosh has been misused by the Heat, period. But to drop this on LBJ is... material

We lost to the Grizz because these clown only play D when they feel like it. How often do the Grizz shoot over 60% in a half? Lebron James is many things but a ballhog is not one of them. If anything he smetimes pisses me off when he passes up on shots where I feel he should take even tho he has gotten better in the last 3 years.
I know Lebron's offensive arsenal is not like that of say, Carmelo and Durant but to call him just a "dunker" is straight up stupid. YOu obvioulsy havent watched many games featuring Lebron the last 2 years.

 

[FreshFromATL]

:WhatevaNikka:

 

[ScoopNScore]

Yes, I watch basketball. Do you ever take breaks from the brainwashing of the media? I don't watch much media because they are financially invested in the lies they propagate. He's better than both of them. Yes, break down why that isn't true. You said it, so back it up.

Pay no attention to the alias. Just let them die out like the rest. Besides, I think that's MikeBrownsJob trying to creep back into the Coli, typing style is similar :skeptical:

 

[Daniel.]

can someone smiley mase

 

[Daniel.]

good god damnnnn mase

 

[Shogun]

 

[Victim of Racism]

No disrespect, my dear but

Okay now i'm ready

My dear, It's well known that Bosh has been misused by the Heat, period. But to drop this on LBJ is... material

We lost to the Grizz because these clown only play D when they feel like it. How often do the Grizz shoot over 60% in a half? Lebron James is many things but a ballhog is not one of them. If anything he smetimes pisses me off when he passes up on shots where I feel he should take even tho he has gotten better in the last 3 years.
I know Lebron's offensive arsenal is not like that of say, Carmelo and Durant but to call him just a "dunker" is straight up stupid. YOu obvioulsy havent watched many games featuring Lebron the last 2 years.

Stall me with Lj is Prigioni. He averages more fga's for his career than Kobe and 'Melo and he is the PG. This season is Bosh's 2nd lowest in fga's per game. When Wade is out, Bosh doesn't get more shots but Lj does. Lj is a ball hog. He does this all the time. Like in game 5 of the ECF when he took 26 shots and gave Bosh and Wade 15 to share. He averaged 20 fga's per game to Wade's 13 and Bosh's 9 in that series. It's not ok to take 33 shots in a game just to be 'Melo (no, literally) when Bosh is playing alongside you. He looks for his shot first and he even said as much. He's only hesitant if he thinks he can't make the shot, which is usually over double-teams. That's why he does take tough shots at times but not much because he can't make them consistently. I've been watching Lj for the longest and he is a dunker and layup guy. Of Lj's made shots this year, 67% of them come from within 8 feet. That means only one third of his shots are on the perimeter. He shoots a pathetic 32.1% from 15-19 feet and look at this shot chart of him. Lj is one of the main culprits on the defensive end for that team because he is one of the worst defenders in the game. He is a defensive liability and always has been.