Study Finds Students Underperform in Schools With Large Black Populations

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That's not true. The only schools with large black populations that excel at high levels are selective schools. The students are specially selected based on criteria like interviews, essays, exams, grades, attendance, and behavior.

Saying it is a resource problem or a teacher problem ignores the real problem: culture. Parents need to send their kids to schools with like-minded, high achieving peers.

There are black majority charter schools that send children to college at high rates. I don't think charter schools are that "selective" either, but there is an opt-in and drop out stage. That aside, as respects integration, Blacks often become self-hating c00ns when they go to schools without high black populations. That defeats the point of being black in the first place so it's a no-go. Succeeding in black environments is possible, but more structure and control is needed than is the case with white schools.
 

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Majority Black student-schools tend to have almost no arts programs, and it has been shown in a number of studies that arts programs improve student's grades, particularly music programs

I agree. Over in Higher Learning there is a thread on Dyett High School in Chicago. A small group of no solid food strikers (aka hunger strikers) were demanding that Dyett remain a neighborhood school, not a charter school, and focus on green technology.

The school will remain a traditional public school but the focus will be on the arts. The school is named after a musician who also taught in Chicago Public Schools. The strikers weren't happy and extended their strike for another two weeks.

I find it strange that the strikers don't want an arts focus. :jbhmm:

The strikers.
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http://www.thecoli.com/threads/black-schools-matter-–-chicago-protestors-go-on-hunger-strike-to-save-their-last-neighborhood-school.348357/
 

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Majority Black schools are generally made up of a poorer student body, and unfortunately poorer students usually mean less parental involvement, with no private academic or test tutors to make up for it.

The problem may be more significant than less parental involvement. Some poor kids are showing up to kindergarten with cognitive delays. Their parents don't have conversations with them, only give orders so the kids have limited vocabularies. Parents feed the kids low nutrient convenience foods. The kids haven't been taught how to cooperate/play with other children.

Schools exacerbate the problem by heavily focusing on academic rigor which is usually developmentally inappropriate for even children with the best of parents. In order to increase test scores, recess and the arts are usually the first to go. Over the last 10 years SAT scores have dropped for all ethnic groups except for Asians, whose scores have risen.

Off-topic: Filipinos used to underperform whites but in the last 20 years the achievement gap has been closed, completely. You don't hear a word about it. Not a word.

Lower threshold for sports and weak extracurricular, majority-White schools tend to have a higher GPA threshold for sports (where many majority Black schools excel) leading student athletes to have to reach higher to play sports, the consequence being they also have better grades when applying for college.

GPA requirements for athletes is usually determined by the school district or even the state. Where have you seen majority white schools being held to a higher standard?

If what you are saying is true, then if blacks were held to a higher standard activists would be screaming about discrimination and a school to prison pipeline. Education activist never want black children held to the same standards as whites.

One school district diversified their gifted program by lowering the test standards for low-income and English language learners which allowed them to legally kick white kids out of the program. How Can Schools Address Inequality in Their Gifted-and-Talented Programs?

The NAACP filed a complaint against New York City Department of Education because too few blacks and Hispanics were getting into the specialized exam schools like Stuyvesant and Bronx Science. Instead of the NAACP setting up a program that would get black students to do well on the admissions test, the NAACP wanted the admissions standards changed to include factors like geography. LDF, LatinoJustice PRLDEF and The Center for Law and Social Justice at Medgar Evers College File Complaint Challenging Admissions Process at NYC Public Specialized High Schools | NAACP LDF
 

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The NAACP filed a complaint against New York City Department of Education because too few blacks and Hispanics were getting into the specialized exam schools like Stuyvesant and Bronx Science.

I actually got into Stuyvesant... :ehh: Go figure... :heh:
 

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I actually got into Stuyvesant... :ehh: Go figure... :heh:

I have a few questions if you don't mind.

Did you attend Stuyvesant?
What year or decade did you get an offer?
How did you prepare for the exam?
What other high schools did you get into?
 

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Why are Asian Americans always excluded from these type of statistics? Also is this the root? I thought criticizing culture was taboo here? Interesting...
 

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Why are Asian Americans always excluded from these type of statistics? Also is this the root? I thought criticizing culture was taboo here? Interesting...

The Asian population is too small. It would be next to impossible to find enough Asians in majority black schools to conduct a reliable study.

Blacks perform the worst on every academic measure that there is. Ignoring the problem isn't going to create a solution.
 

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i believe it, but the statistics are framed incorrectly. what it should say is white students also suffer from miseducation and disenfranchisement, when placed in schools with a high percentage of blacks.

They don't suffer from they suffer the miseducation and disenfranchisement.
 
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