Street Harassment [TW]

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Then we need to talk about when how and why disrespecting women became the definition of masculinity. I can understand peer pressure as a kid. But as a grown man why would you care about what another man thinks when it comes to doing the right thing? That, is cowardice which I thought was the opposite of manly. I thought...It is just excuses. I feel like man are the only ones who will make an impact on this with other men because of how women are brushed off for saying anything. Men want to be held up as leaders then don't lead.

Like on here, simp, caping, and many other terms are always thrown out and distorted. It is now Manly to attack a woman because she rejected you? Good that you decide to start speaking up.
The idea is that listening to "feminists" and doing what they want leads to the "feminization of men" - I hear this term all the time and I don't quite understand it. I don't understand how relating better to women as a whole is an erosion to my manhood. It's amazing how everything nowadays - particularly feminism and homosexuality - is somehow an attempt to feminize men (black men in particular). Even now, I'm doing a disservice to the topic at hand - it's actually about women and their struggle with street harassment, and I'm literally talking about men :lupe:. As an aside, I'm not sure how my speaking up is helping right now because nobody has really listened to me...

But at the topic itself, I find that when women talk about these incidents happening to them, there is always someone that minimizes it's importance and makes little of it. This is something I noticed a lot on twitter as well as occasionally in real life. It is similar to the Bill Cosby situation - only after there was proof he did what he did, that was when it was taken more seriously. Just that 30-40 women just happened to be lying. It's that perception of "she must be lying" or "she should have done", "she should have etc" - that leads to victim blaming, and ultimately lends quite a big of credence to the theory that there is indeed a rape culture, as much as that is something that men would never want to admit.
 

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It didn't affect me as much as it did him because I'm too used to by now. That's how real that shyt is smh.
I'm the same way with mine...and she's never been grabbed...just look at her on some :shaq: and I'm ready to fight...but she too basically is the same way about it smh.
 

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They ain't that brazen to be honest. They get scared of my husband cause he's mad tall and athletic. But when I'm alone, it's a different story.
Its probably cause I'm light skinned and look younger than I am. :mjpls:
 
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I hate when nikkas sidestep and downplay issues that affect black women because they think it doesnt them. Most of us have female loved ones that have been victims of SH and it will affect how they interact with ALL men. The fact that being harassed on the street is seen as normal to a lot of women is really really disheartening...:mjcry:

I'm from NYC and I have 3 younger sisters and I always worry about their safety. My youngest sister is 9, I dont know what I would do if she told me some old creep tried to grope her while she was playing outside...

Ultimately us men have to hold other men accountable for their actions. We have to teach other men that harassing random women off the street is not cool. If you dont speak out against SH, then youre pretty much complicit imo. I'm around a lot of younger males (7-17) and I try to emphasize this as much as I can.
 

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Oh you know where you got exposed but keep posting smilies trying to throw cats off the scent. Ole hide the banana ass chump.

I never got exposed as there's nothing to be "exposed", it's just a bunch of what you're doing here in this post which is name calling and childish ad-hominem.

:francis:
 

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I never got exposed as there's nothing to be "exposed", it's just a bunch of what you're doing here in this post which is name calling and childish ad-hominem.

:francis:
Sounds good but evidence is there. I'm not name calling its called the truth. I'm just describing what you do so no need to go the young boy I'm bullying you with names route. Keep using your smilies to deflect that's all you good for and being a coward towards women. Ad nominem isn't childish as adults frequently use it too so why are you calling me a name on the sly if your so against it?
 

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I think this exchange gets to the heart of why the comparison rubs some people the wrong way.







Well I've believed that Cosby was guilty so my issue with the narrative that 'black men by and large are either enabling or partaking in the abuse of our women' is relegated to just that...even though I understand that I am a miniscule minority of the minority that doesn't represent all black men, (particularly those who don't agree with her tweets).

Again, my post seems to be teetering on the edge of being associated with those that don't believe street harassment is an issue even though that's not the case so I'm out.

EDIT: Although I still believe that saying "smile" to a woman isn't on par with saying how you want to fukk her (i.e. the walking in NY street harassment thread)
 

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Sounds good but evidence is there. I'm not name calling its called the truth. I'm just describing what you do so no need to go the young boy I'm bullying you with names route. Keep using your smilies to deflect that's all you good for and being a coward towards women. Ad nominem isn't childish as adults frequently use it too so why are you calling me a name on the sly if your so against it?

You say I'm a coward towards women, that's simply not true, and you suggest that because I don't harass women like you and others while completely oblivious to why it's harassment in the first place. That's really all men like you have in these conversations, childish shaming tactics that have proven to work quite effectively for the most part as men are deathly afraid to stand up to other men who harass or harm women for fear of being called names like "simp" "gay" and whatever else is the flavor of the week among your ilk.

:francis:
 
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