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:russ: no issue but I don't think Laura beats Mika at all
I should of been clear

If the player is actually good with their main. There are a handful of characters that can keep Mika out especially if they know her frame data. As far as getting knocked down, it's the "same" as if Akuma, Seth, Urien or Ibuki knocking you down. Clench ya ass cheeks and hope for the best but....

If you what you're doing. Nash, Chun, Ryu, Ken, Sim, Laura and Karin can all stop Mika's blender. Specially Charlie, Ryu and Sim. Laura doesn't BEAT Mika in a MU type of way so I didn't mean like 6-4 Laura. I'm just saying Laura has the buttons, a command grab and damage/stun to fukk Mika up. With ease if she gets going.

There are literally a handful of good Mikas. Everyone else is just shyt.

If you aren't me :shaq:
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then :camby: with your fraud Mika.

If you can't beat a Mika that isn't the above you need to watch your replays. I bet 85% of them are just mashing buttons and mashing EX peach and mashing CMD after a light normal.
 

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I should of been clear

If the player is actually good with their main. There are a handful of characters that can keep Mika out especially if they know her frame data. As far as getting knocked down, it's the "same" as if Akuma, Seth, Urien or Ibuki knocking you down. Clench ya ass cheeks and hope for the best but....

If you what you're doing. Nash, Chun, Ryu, Ken, Sim, Laura and Karin can all stop Mika's blender. Specially Charlie, Ryu and Sim. Laura doesn't BEAT Mika in a MU type of way so I didn't mean like 6-4 Laura. I'm just saying Laura has the buttons, a command grab and damage/stun to fukk Mika up. With ease if she gets going.

There are literally a handful of good Mikas. Everyone else is just shyt.

If you aren't me :shaq:
Native Impact
Dark Hokage
A4Andre
Marn


then :camby: with your fraud Mika.

If you can't beat a Mika that isn't the above you need to watch your replays. I bet 85% of them are just mashing buttons and mashing EX peach and mashing CMD after a light normal.
I'm not disagreeing with any of that. My post wasn't about Mika as much as it was about Laura not being able to fight her.

Laura is essentially a shytty Mika. Has everything Mika has but less effective(I do think she's better at getting in tho. Mikas will struggle with that as the game progresses). The risk\reward and commitment factor is not in her favor. But you weren't explicitly disagreeing with that so I feel where you're coming from
 
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Yeah, as annoying as Mika is, I think against Laura, it's probably still a 5:5 and Laura does have decent enough tools to keep her out or beat her up. It's tougher than other MU's tho.

I'm not disagreeing with any of that. My post wasn't about Mika as much as it was about Laura not being able to fight her.

Laura is essentially a shytty Mika. Has everything Mika has but less effective. The risk\reward and commitment factor is not in her favor. But you weren't explicitly disagreeing with that so I feel where you're coming from

I disagree. Just off the strength that Laura can work her game anywhere on screen rather than requiring corner and gimmicks to that level. Plus, I don't liken Laura to being anything like Mika, let lone a shytty version of her. I'll give you the risk/reward factor favors Mika more tho.
 

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I've completely given up on this game. And it really sucks as a PC fighting game player cause I aint getting KOF or GG Revelator anytime soon.

Even after giving the game a few months to develop, its still mad cookie cutter to me. And since yall are talking about Laura, I cant help but feel like her ex fireball mix ups are just a ghetto, shyt version of Makoto's ultra mix ups. Everything about this game just feels dumbed down.
 

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I've completely given up on this game. And it really sucks as a PC fighting game player cause I aint getting KOF or GG Revelator anytime soon.

Even after giving the game a few months to develop, its still mad cookie cutter to me. And since yall are talking about Laura, I cant help but feel like her ex fireball mix ups are just a ghetto, shyt version of Makoto's ultra mix ups. Everything about this game just feels dumbed down.

Feel free to let the thread door hit ya on the way out.:camby:
 

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I've completely given up on this game. And it really sucks as a PC fighting game player cause I aint getting KOF or GG Revelator anytime soon.

Even after giving the game a few months to develop, its still mad cookie cutter to me. And since yall are talking about Laura, I cant help but feel like her ex fireball mix ups are just a ghetto, shyt version of Makoto's ultra mix ups. Everything about this game just feels dumbed down.
I was speaking to a Makoto\Laura player recently and he said the same shyt:russ:

I think her fireball going away if she gets hit hurts her a lot. With that she's bottom three but if the fireball stayed she'd be upper mid. A lot of characters have no reason to respect her fireball, which feeds her setups

I've noticed this with a few characters in 5. Somebody like Bison for example. Having a 4f jab hurts him, but if he had a 3f jab:whoa:
 

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I disagree. Just off the strength that Laura can work her game anywhere on screen rather than requiring corner and gimmicks to that level. Plus, I don't liken Laura to being anything like Mika, let lone a shytty version of her. I'll give you the risk/reward factor favors Mika more tho.
I compare them that way because they both rely on a lot of rock paper scissors and their moves work in similar ways. They both have an anti air cmmd grab, forward moving ex reversal, and a target combo into big damage. All of those factors favor Mika. Laura has a much easier time getting in tho

As far as working her game goes I don't know enough about Laura's game plan. I'll take your word on that
 
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I was speaking to a Makoto\Laura player recently and he said the same shyt:russ:

I think her fireball going away if she gets hit hurts her a lot. With that she's bottom three but if the fireball stayed she'd be upper mid. A lot of characters have no reason to respect her fireball, which feeds her setups

I've noticed this with a few characters in 5. Somebody like Bison for example. Having a 4f jab hurts him, but if he had a 3f jab:whoa:

Everyone keeps comparing Laura to either Mika or Makoto, but I'm like...neither one of those broads ever had a fireball tho, nor hit grabs, and their command throws have fundamental differences, let lone the obvious aesthetic difference. Stahp it. Also, I just disagree with most of those loose-leaf, slighted comparisons to old characters that folks put on newer characters. Do they borrow a mechanic or something here and there in a modest fashion? Perhaps, but the sum of their parts make them new, not said old character. Laura is not Makoto. Rashid is not El Fuerte. Necalli is not T. Hawk.

That's that balance tho!:ohlawd::banderas:
 

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I was speaking to a Makoto\Laura player recently and he said the same shyt:russ:

I think her fireball going away if she gets hit hurts her a lot. With that she's bottom three but if the fireball stayed she'd be upper mid. A lot of characters have no reason to respect her fireball, which feeds her setups

I've noticed this with a few characters in 5. Somebody like Bison for example. Having a 4f jab hurts him, but if he had a 3f jab:whoa:
My Bison homie wants him to have a 3f jab :wow:

When we run sets and I'm using Laura...it's a hell of a difference compared to me using Karin who has a 3f jab

edit: I fukked up, Laura has a 3f jab but the hitbox on it is pure ass
edit 2: wait wtf Karin has a 4f jab? BS


Who has a link to the most updated frame data? That shyt can't be right.

And I can't really speak more on Laura/Mika because I use them both..I'm gonna be bias....I really don't want ANYONE nerf'd..

BUFF the characters that have issues....changing 1 normal here n there won't break the game...

I don't see Mika getting nerf'd anytime soon...people are looking at the wrong character...Mika's aren't bussin out winning majors left n right

You KNOW who is winning tournaments left and right...:sas2:
 

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I compare them that way because they both rely on a lot of rock paper scissors and their moves work in similar ways. They both have an anti air cmmd grab, forward moving ex reversal, and a target combo into big damage. All of those factors favor Mika. Laura has a much easier time getting in tho

As far as working her game goes I don't know enough about Laura's game plan. I'll take your word on that

While I get that, but aside from the controlling of space aspect of fighting games, the genre in general has the rock, paper, scissors application to it. So what I say.
 

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My Bison homie wants him to have a 3f jab :wow:

When we run sets and I'm using Laura...it's a hell of a difference compared to me using Karin who has a 3f jab

edit: I fukked up, Laura has a 3f jab but the hitbox on it is pure ass
edit 2: wait wtf Karin has a 4f jab? BS


Who has a link to the most updated frame data? That shyt can't be right.

And I can't really speak more on Laura/Mika because I use them both..I'm gonna be bias....I really don't want ANYONE nerf'd..

BUFF the characters that have issues....changing 1 normal here n there won't break the game...

I don't see Mika getting nerf'd anytime soon...people are looking at the wrong character...Mika's aren't bussin out winning majors left n right

You KNOW who is winning tournaments left and right...:sas2:


Yeah, Infiltration. He needs a nerf. He's OP'd.:lolbron:
 

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Btw when I was at Showdown this weekend I saw a whole lot of:francis:

A lot of nikkas got converted this weekend

"I'm about to gone head and switch to Neccali\Ken\Dhalsim bruh:francis:"
Cowards. I stopped watching that shyt due to all the mirror matches.

Ken? :mjlol: Not until Tokido shows up at a tournament, he raped every Ken we had :mjlol:

Necalli:mjcry:fukk him and whoever summoned his existence
Sim is sim:yeshrug: People are still finding/incorporating new tech. In the long run Sim is gonna shoot down another tier
 
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