Stove God Cooks Discusses Roc Marciano's Input On His Projects (Check Out Rome Streetz Body Language After Stoves Response)

[maxamusa]

I watched the video. He said he didn’t like the beats that Roc gave him. He said Roc didn’t have anything to do with the creation of the album (aside from giving him the beats). He said Roc heard the album after it was done. He said that the input that Roc did give him (take the hook off the first song) he rejected. He said he wants to do more melodic shyt. He gave Roc props at the end for being a pioneer of the sound.

It’s abundantly clear that Stove doesn’t want to rap over Roc’s beats or make the kind of music Roc makes. I don’t see them working on another album together in the future. I chalk it up to creative differences. Stove toed the line of disrespect with the way he spoke on Roc.

exactly. I don't get how there is confusion here or people downplaying. Whats that cliche they teach kindergartners..."if you don't have anything nice to say; don't say it all"

Artists view their works like babies. Why you think when Nas said "Hip-Hop is dead" a LOT of people caught feelings. When you speak on somebody else you can't decide how they're going to interpret, feel, and respond. So if you can't handle that then don't speak on nobody but yourself.

His association with Roc is what made people give him a shot. Let's not play dumb.

^^Roc gave stovegod a big look. Even if they have creative difference and that's how he really feels; it would have been a lot more mature, respectful, and professional to just shoutout Roc and pay homage and move on to the next question. Shoulda kept that shyt to himself. There have been plenty of "beefs" in hip-hop that started by someone saying you don't fukk with someones beats or bars in hip-hop. Its a dumb move since Roc and Stove essentially have the same fanbase anyway; and one has way more clout than the other.

 

[Morose Polymath]

Again yall are taking what he said completely out of context. He told the same story in more detail to Rosenberg 1 year ago.

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He told Roc directly that he didn't want to even rap over his beats because that wasn't his sound. He fukked with Roc and Griselda musically but that's not what he wanted to rap over. Roc insisted and sent him beats anyway. After recording a few songs he started loving it and finished the album. Roc was never with him in the studio he just sent the beats.

B Dot specifically asked him what was Roc's input on RD and Stove said he just sent beats and they didn't speak on it until after Stove was finished.

What part of his story isn't consistent to where now he's disrespecting Roc?

People acting like Stove and Roc are Guru and Premier. They're not a group, they're not in business together beyond RD, and there was never a guarantee they'd keep doing albums together. Roc still hasn't delivered on the Metal Clergy album with Ka. That's just the business, timing, and art not aligning. All that choosing sides and taking shots at grown men who aren't giving you what you want is unnecessary.

Stove has been rapping over drumless beats and production similar to Roc's since joining Griselda. I don't think he has a problem with Roc's production. As Roc said them not working together isn't for artistic reasons it's business related. No one would think there's an issue if Flee Lord didn't run his mouth.

You speaking facts and logic (even tho no one is comparing them to Gang Starr ) but beyond that there seems to clearly be a disconnect between camps, whatever the issue may be...

And the reason everyone is speaking on this is because Cook$ and Marci made good music together and now that's appears to be over. (His performances on Marciealgo was fire.) Hell Marci don't even collaborate with GxFR anymore which isnt a coincidence either, something isn't right between both camps. Anyone who can't see or acknowledge that is acting blind.

Even all the YT comments on that vid is echoing the sentiment of this thread.

 

[Clapsteel O'Neal]

@spliz please dislodge roc's dicc from your throat jesus christ

 

[Supa]

You speaking facts and logic (even tho no one is comparing them to Gang Starr ) but beyond that there seems to clearly be a disconnect between camps, whatever the issue may be...

And the reason everyone is speaking on this is because Cook$ and Marci made good music together and now that's appears to be over. (His performances on Marciealgo was fire.) Hell Marci don't even collaborate with GxFR anymore which isnt a coincidence either, something isn't right between both camps. Anyone who can't see or acknowledge that is acting blind.

Even all the YT comments on that vid is echoing the sentiment of this thread.

There's a reason why we still haven't gotten a Stove God Griselda album yet. Rome signed after him and released one. Stove was around for a while before Gunn even announced he was officially down with them. They're probably still working on getting him off Babygrande which has a bad reputation with their artists. Either Gunn is trying to buy him out or they won't release him since he has a buzz. There's something going on behind the scenes.

One thing we've never seen is anyone from Griselda disrespecting Roc. They always say he's the godfather and Boldy just worked with him. Until there's concrete proof that there's an issue I'm not buying any speculation. Gunn isn't one to bite his tongue so he'd speak on it. Roc just chills so I don't see him beefing over this even if something went sour on the business side.

 

[ShaDynasty]

Drought is cool, but I feel like that style of production doesn't suit him as much as Griselda joints.

Would still be nice to hear Roc contribute a verse to the Stove LP. Any idea when it drops?

 

[Mikeatris]

There's a reason why we still haven't gotten a Stove God Griselda album yet. Rome signed after him and released one. Stove was around for a while before Gunn even announced he was officially down with them. They're probably still working on getting him off Babygrande which has a bad reputation with their artists. Either Gunn is trying to buy him out or they won't release him since he has a buzz. There's something going on behind the scenes.

One thing we've never seen is anyone from Griselda disrespecting Roc. They always say he's the godfather and Boldy just worked with him. Until there's concrete proof that there's an issue I'm not buying any speculation. Gunn isn't one to bite his tongue so he'd speak on it. Roc just chills so I don't see him beefing over this even if something went sour on the business side.

I think this sums it up it perfectly

 

[spliz]

@spliz please dislodge roc's dicc from your throat jesus christ

Who are u? Why are u @'ing me?

 

[Piff Perkins]

Kiss the Ring>>>> the Elephant man Bones

Nearly ever beat sounds the same, and the flow/content is the same on every track. Super disappointing album. I fukk with Conductor and some Griselda style beats but they need to switch their style up. Up the BPM or something while they're at it because those drums are slow and predictable as fukk...

Elephant Man's Bones has a level of sonic variety and chopping that you rarely see on a full Griselda project IMO.

 

[Guvnor]

I watched the video. He said he didn’t like the beats that Roc gave him. He said Roc didn’t have anything to do with the creation of the album (aside from giving him the beats). He said Roc heard the album after it was done. He said that the input that Roc did give him (take the hook off the first song) he rejected. He said he wants to do more melodic shyt. He gave Roc props at the end for being a pioneer of the sound.

It’s abundantly clear that Stove doesn’t want to rap over Roc’s beats or make the kind of music Roc makes. I don’t see them working on another album together in the future. I chalk it up to creative differences. Stove toed the line of disrespect with the way he spoke on Roc.

Where was the disrepsect in any of that?

 

[HARLEM AL]

Nearly ever beat sounds the same, and the flow/content is the same on every track. Super disappointing album. I fukk with Conductor and some Griselda style beats but they need to switch their style up. Up the BPM or something while they're at it because those drums are slow and predictable as fukk...

Elephant Man's Bones has a level of sonic variety and chopping that you rarely see on a full Griselda project IMO.

nikka stop it. Foh Yall nikkas just be fukking talkin to be talkin

 

[Ty-Fife]

nikka stop it. Foh Yall nikkas just be fukking talkin to be talkin

Hilarious

 

[TrifeGod]

time tickin' where those albums and mixtapes at Mr. We have different visions C00ks

 

[Guvnor]

Alright now I do peep the fact that some tension must exist between the two. I mean I watched Roc's interview today cause the full thing was released recently, that's months after the clips came out. In it he showed Stove a lot of love and even makes comparisons to Dee and Snoop the way he says he brought him out and put work into the beats. While Stove paints the picture different saying Roc only gave him some beats and he wasn't feeling them too much because they didn't have room for hooks like that or weren't his style. It's like them nikkas didn't even work on the same album lmao.

 

[mobbinfms]

Where was the disrepsect in any of that?

Alright now I do peep the fact that some tension must exist between the two. I mean I watched Roc's interview today cause the full thing was released recently, that's months after the clips came out. In it he showed Stove a lot of love and even makes comparisons to Dee and Snoop the way he says he brought him out and put work into the beats. While Stove paints the picture different saying Roc only gave him some beats and he wasn't feeling them too much because they didn't have room for hooks like that or weren't his style. It's like them nikkas didn't even work on the same album lmao.

Looks like you get it now.

 

[Guvnor]

Looks like you get it now.

Yeah I'm sure Roc must have negative feelings about what Stove said for sure