STORY OF OJ = SELLOUT shyt

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Dawg, u cant even dispute nothing Im saying. Lol

You just started this thread to hate, when every top MC has done it

Mos Def makes Ms Fat Booty as a conscious rapper

I can go on for days.. nobody is one thing nygga.

How u feel when the 5% Rakim hopped on a Jody Whatley record?

Again, all the greats have stepped in other territories outside if their main lane.


i know all the narratives culturally and have went indepthly into all that content.
stop trying to gloss over the points of this discussion.
that you continue to make in error, because you culturally have disconnect and do not know hiphop culture like that.

you are doing nuffin but deflecting,......

if you want, but you won't.
you can go use the search function to search my culturally based comments on those artist.
you won't tho,..you will continue to deflect and use your cultural misappropiation and cultural disconnect.
to keep you from the cultural based norms, mores and facts.,



stop deflecting,.....


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This is all deflection cause you are a liar bih.

You still show you do not know any pillar in the culture by norms and mores.
So yousa toy.
The reason why you are not respected is culturally you do not know hiphop.
Now stay the fukk outta my thread with your emo white boy lack of culture and failure around culturally misappropriation based anger.
All because you can not fool culture based people.

You making long rants about people out of deflection.
simply because culturally you are a complete fraud.

So Please, CONTINUE And Make YOURSELF LOOK Even more STOOPID.
Yet when asked around here about hiphop and the so called pillars you say you did.
You are mums the word.
when cultural based question about that pillar were asked of you.
After you lied about being apart of the culture.

Your participation in hiphop is as fraud as chunky a in a fat suit.

You are a lie.

you live a lie.


Art Barr
Calling me a liar (simply cause you said so) or trying to argue against a souped up version of what i said (created in your imagination),means nothing.
What means everything,is that a wack rapper (yo bum ass) that often calls other more accomplished rappers sell outs and shyts on them for what they've done in this culture,has the nerve to make fake baller music as recent as 2011 or more recent
You talking about leather suede,staying butter,million dollar cribs,

"if nikkas wanna hate tell em it's alright,money keep on stacking we can do this all night. them girls wanna take it off when you take flight......"

None of this is different than the shyt you call sell out music.

So you're making get jiggy with it type music ,frontin like you got a million dollar crib. Who are you trying to convince? What's your goal with this? You're taking pictures with imaginary finger guns.
What's that about? I havent heard any rhymes or hooks getting at white supremacist.Is that for nikkas in the hood that might be "hating" on your "suede" or "million dollar cribs"? Could it be you're adding to the prison industrial shyt you're always talking about?
You wish you had it like
jay, ross and a host of others. Since you never will. You hold tight to your ready made excuse that they've only reached their heights due to selling out.
NEWSFLASH,you're just wack.
Weak flows
meh lyrics
Weak hooks
Weak beats
and why in the fukk is a nikka that started in 95/96 rhyming over shytty equipment like the shyt you're recording on in 2011? What a fukking joke.
 

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i know all the narratives culturally and have went indepthly into all that content.
stop trying to gloss over the points of this discussion.
that you continue to make in error, because you culturally have disconnect and do not know hiphop culture like that.

you are doing nuffin but deflecting,......

if you want, but you won't.
you can go use the search function to search my culturally based comments on those artist.
you won't tho,..you will continue to deflect and use your cultural misappropiation and cultural disconnect.
to keep you from the cultural based norms, mores and facts.,



stop deflecting,.....


art barr

Damn, you went from top 10 to not mentioned at all

That bum @BrothaZay posts better than yours
 

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Calling me a liar (simply cause you said so) or trying to argue against a souped up version of what i said (created in your imagination),means nothing.
What means everything,is that a wack rapper (yo bum ass) that often calls other more accomplished rappers sell outs and shyts on them for what they've done in this culture,has the nerve to make fake baller music as recent as 2011 or more recent
You talking about leather suede,staying butter,million dollar cribs,

"if nikkas wanna hate tell em it's alright,money keep on stacking we can do this all night. them girls wanna take it off when you take flight......"

None of this is different than the shyt you call sell out music.

So you're making get jiggy with it type music ,frontin like you got a million dollar crib. Who are you trying to convince? What's your goal with this? You're taking pictures with imaginary finger guns.
What's that about? I havent heard any rhymes or hooks getting at white supremacist.Is that for nikkas in the hood that might be "hating" on your "suede" or "million dollar cribs"? Could it be you're adding to the prison industrial shyt you're always talking about?
You wish you had it like
jay, ross and a host of others. Since you never will. You hold tight to your ready made excuse that they've only reached their heights due to selling out.
NEWSFLASH,you're just wack.
Weak flows
meh lyrics
Weak hooks
Weak beats
and why in the fukk is a nikka that started in 95/96 rhyming over shytty equipment like the shyt you're recording on in 2011? What a fukking joke.



See you a liar.
I asked what a dot one is and this is your response.
You was never a real graffiti artist nikka.
Just like you not really apart of hiphop.


Stop lyin,....chu toy.


Art Barr

There is no way you were a real cultural graf artist and I have to explain this culture to you.
As that is the very pillar.
that etched out the very norms and mores by which this culture operated via consumerism and capitalism in the beginning.
As that was the first pillar that was compromised from what this thread is about in premise culturally at the base level.

You are a liar sir.

You still have not answered what a dot one is,........

How long is a legendary new school tag.
How would you write an old school tag.
What style did you tag in?
What is a blast cap?

Now deflect and front on these questions.
Plus if you don't come back with the answers fast enough I know you a liar cause this shyt automatic for any writer.
Yousa toy, breh.





Art Barr


till you answer these questions.
you not credible and a liar.


plus, if you wanna critique my music, make a thread and do so.
so then you can try to deflect and defy fact in a thread based on my music.

you welcome to review to music, i am a public figure breh.

make a thread..you do not know hiphop and all these pillars so you won't be able to hurt my cred at all.

yet remember when you do that and nikkaz ask how you know so much about hiphop.
just remember that you don't know the culture well enough and they will get down to how much of a fraud you are.
 

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Damn, you went from top 10 to not mentioned at all

That bum @BrothaZay posts better than yours


stop trying to call other people in here to see you embarrass yourself breh.
anyone who reads this thread can see you cake as hell.
plus, when people get down to asking about your knowledge culturally.
when you deflect they gon simply clown you, too.


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Calling me a liar (simply cause you said so) or trying to argue against a souped up version of what i said (created in your imagination),means nothing.
What means everything,is that a wack rapper (yo bum ass) that often calls other more accomplished rappers sell outs and shyts on them for what they've done in this culture,has the nerve to make fake baller music as recent as 2011 or more recent
You talking about leather suede,staying butter,million dollar cribs,

"if nikkas wanna hate tell em it's alright,money keep on stacking we can do this all night. them girls wanna take it off when you take flight......"

None of this is different than the shyt you call sell out music.

So you're making get jiggy with it type music ,frontin like you got a million dollar crib. Who are you trying to convince? What's your goal with this? You're taking pictures with imaginary finger guns.
What's that about? I havent heard any rhymes or hooks getting at white supremacist.Is that for nikkas in the hood that might be "hating" on your "suede" or "million dollar cribs"? Could it be you're adding to the prison industrial shyt you're always talking about?
You wish you had it like
jay, ross and a host of others. Since you never will. You hold tight to your ready made excuse that they've only reached their heights due to selling out.
NEWSFLASH,you're just wack.
Weak flows
meh lyrics
Weak hooks
Weak beats
and why in the fukk is a nikka that started in 95/96 rhyming over shytty equipment like the shyt you're recording on in 2011? What a fukking joke.

till you answer these questions.
you not credible and a liar.


plus, if you wanna critique my music, make a thread and do so.
so then you can try to deflect and defy fact in a thread based on my music.

you welcome to review to music, i am a public figure breh.

make a thread..you do not know hiphop and all these pillars so you won't be able to hurt my cred at all.

yet remember when you do that and nikkaz ask how you know so much about hiphop.
just remember that you don't know the culture well enough and they will get down to how much of a fraud you are.
Pointless questions and speculative nonsense means nothing. You have no leg to Stand on.
It's not my opinion or assumption that you make Get jiggy music while hating on others whom do it.
It's a fact,backed with actual evidence. Look in the quotes
 

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Pointless questions and speculative nonsense means nothing. You have no leg to Stand on.
It's not my opinion or assumption that you make Get jiggy music while hating on others whom do it.
It's a fact,backed with actual evidence. Look in the quotes


i see you don't have a life and never did nuffin you talk about.
you just like to make narcissistic deflection based dialogue, because you ain't real.
you just a hater.
you don't have a premise to how or why you are hating.
you not even apart of hiphop culture to say shyt.

you are a toy.

now, keep coming in here deflecting..
it is easy for me to ctrl c...the question every response.
so, keep seeking an audience as a matter of fact.....



art barr
 
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1.Well i asked you if everyone with mainstream distribution were were sell outs and you said no it wasnt about that.


Change your mind?

2.He's dumbing down his lyrics to make them more digestible to to people with slower minds or dont want to decipher everything and like more straight talk. Nothing to do with white folks vs nikkas. Plenty of white hiphop fans appreciate complex lyrics. Also plenty of black hiphop fans appreciate simplicity. You never quite no,some of us like both.

3.Lmao,i was born in the 70's. I break danced,mc'd,tried to dj and did graffiti in the 80's.

ALSO,anyone whom really knows hiphop,knows that simple rhymes to rock the party existed before any of the other shyt dummy

1. Dude, again, you don't have to make watered down corporate rap because you have mainstream distribution. Why do you keep making it about that?

Public Enemy made "Fight The Power" with "mainstream distribution". Kendrick Lamar makes "Blacker the Berry" with "mainstream distribution". Lupe Fiasco has spent his whole career making real ass Hip-Hop with "mainstream distribution".

Guys like Jay & Puff PURPOSELY made MTV friendly watered down street hop for the purpose of making White kids buy their music. THAT is why it's a sellout move.

2. No, real street nikkaz don't need the game watered down for them. Did the streets feel "Illmatic"? Yeah. Did Nas need to "dumb it down" for real Hip-HOp heads? No.

What about "36 Chambers"? "Only Built 4 Cuban Linx"?

Of course not.

Jay wanted to sell pop star records. HE ADMITTED THAT. He admitted that if it was up to him, he'd always been rapping like Talib Kweli or Common, but he makes too much money making watered down pop/gangsta rap, so he does that.

3. If you did all that shyt and still have no concept of what Hip-HOp culture is, then you're an even bigger clown than Jay is.



Dawg, u cant even dispute nothing Im saying. Lol

You just started this thread to hate, when every top MC has done it

Mos Def makes Ms Fat Booty as a conscious rapper

I can go on for days.. nobody is one thing nygga.

How u feel when the 5% Rakim hopped on a Jody Whatley record?

Again, all the greats have stepped in other territories outside if their main lane.

Mos Def didn't make "Ms Fat Booty" for White kids in the suburbs

Rakim didn't hop on a Jody Whatley record for White kids in the suburbs.

What is with you new nikkaz who don't understand HIp-Hop culture?

Now , if Mos Def hops on a Britney Spears record, THEN it'd be a sellout move

If Rakim jumps on a New Kids on the Block record THEN it'd be a sellout move.

Selling out is dumbing down/watering down your music to appeal to a more "mainstream" audience.

Jay-Z built his career on that. Rakim & Mos Def did not.
 

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1. Dude, again, you don't have to make watered down corporate rap because you have mainstream distribution. Why do you keep making it about that?

Public Enemy made "Fight The Power" with "mainstream distribution". Kendrick Lamar makes "Blacker the Berry" with "mainstream distribution". Lupe Fiasco has spent his whole career making real ass Hip-Hop with "mainstream distribution".

Guys like Jay & Puff PURPOSELY made MTV friendly watered down street hop for the purpose of making White kids buy their music. THAT is why it's a sellout move.

2. No, real street nikkaz don't need the game watered down for them. Did the streets feel "Illmatic"? Yeah. Did Nas need to "dumb it down" for real Hip-HOp heads? No.

What about "36 Chambers"? "Only Built 4 Cuban Linx"?

Of course not.

Jay wanted to sell pop star records. HE ADMITTED THAT. He admitted that if it was up to him, he'd always been rapping like Talib Kweli or Common, but he makes too much money making watered down pop/gangsta rap, so he does that.

3. If you did all that shyt and still have no concept of what Hip-HOp culture is, then you're an even bigger clown than Jay is.





4Mos Def didn't make "Ms Fat Booty" for White kids in the suburbs

5Rakim didn't hop on a Jody Whatley record for White kids in the suburbs.

6What is with you new nikkaz who don't understand HIp-Hop culture?

7Now , if Mos Def hops on a Britney Spears record, THEN it'd be a sellout move

8If Rakim jumps on a New Kids on the Block record THEN it'd be a sellout move.

Selling out is dumbing down/watering down your music to appeal to a more "mainstream" audience.

Jay-Z built his career on that. Rakim & Mos Def did not.
1.I never said you HAD to make anything. My point was if you give up rights,owner ship and over 80% of your record sales for a boost into mainstream viewership,THEN YOU ALREADY sold out.
That's worse than owning your company and making a handful of party records to promote your album. Which is usually full of lyrical gems like The Greatest rapper alive gives us.

2.Did the streets feel Illmatic,not really. Maybe a few queens bridge streets and other east coast purists. But it flopped in real time. nas himself was disappointed. Which is why he switched up immediately and start Getting jiggy like BAD BOY records. Hell, he switched up before jay did.

"
[Verse Three]
This goes out for those that choose to use
disrespectful views on the King of NY
fukk that, why try, throw bleach in your eye
Now ya braille in it, stash that light shyt, or scalin it
Conscience of ya nonsense in eighty-eight
Sold more powder than Johnson and Johnson
Tote steel like Bronson, "Vigilante"
You wanna get on son, you need to ask me
Ain't no other king in this rap thing
They siblings, nothing but my chil'ren
One shot, they disappearin

It's ill when, MC's used to be on cruddy shyt
Took home, "Ready to Die," listened, studied shyt
Now they on some money shyt, successful out the blue
They light weight, fragilly, my nine milly
make the white shake, thats why my money never funny
And you still recoupin, stupid {*echoes*}"

nikkas really think THEY make the rules.
What if some old school hip purists thought it was corny or a sell out move to sample vocals and not just the drums or not just the groove?
Would you ride with that? Can't knock the hustle bro.

3.Jay-z handled this rap game better than anyone ever. Though my favorite is Pac.

4.

:mjpls:


:mjgrin:


5.Who cares,nikkas can do what they want.

6.We covered this already. born in the 70's. fukked with all aspects of the culture in the 80's.

7.fukk mos def. Who cares. You're not the sell out rule maker.

8.Cause they're white? New kids (as corny as they are) were closer to hiphop than jody watley
 

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i see you don't have a life and never did nuffin you talk about.
you just like to make narcissistic deflection based dialogue, because you ain't real.
you just a hater.
you don't have a premise to how or why you are hating.
you not even apart of hiphop culture to say shyt.

you are a toy.

now, keep coming in here deflecting..
it is easy for me to ctrl c...the question every response.
so, keep seeking an audience as a matter of fact.....



art barr
Hate is what you do,nearly everytime ANY rapper with some success is brought up.
I get it. It hurts to be wack. You ease your plain downplaying others and talking up yourself. It's what bytch nikkas do.
 

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1. Dude, again, you don't have to make watered down corporate rap because you have mainstream distribution. Why do you keep making it about that?

Public Enemy made "Fight The Power" with "mainstream distribution". Kendrick Lamar makes "Blacker the Berry" with "mainstream distribution". Lupe Fiasco has spent his whole career making real ass Hip-Hop with "mainstream distribution".

Guys like Jay & Puff PURPOSELY made MTV friendly watered down street hop for the purpose of making White kids buy their music. THAT is why it's a sellout move.

2. No, real street nikkaz don't need the game watered down for them. Did the streets feel "Illmatic"? Yeah. Did Nas need to "dumb it down" for real Hip-HOp heads? No.

What about "36 Chambers"? "Only Built 4 Cuban Linx"?

Of course not.

Jay wanted to sell pop star records. HE ADMITTED THAT. He admitted that if it was up to him, he'd always been rapping like Talib Kweli or Common, but he makes too much money making watered down pop/gangsta rap, so he does that.

3. If you did all that shyt and still have no concept of what Hip-HOp culture is, then you're an even bigger clown than Jay is.





Mos Def didn't make "Ms Fat Booty" for White kids in the suburbs

Rakim didn't hop on a Jody Whatley record for White kids in the suburbs.

What is with you new nikkaz who don't understand HIp-Hop culture?

Now , if Mos Def hops on a Britney Spears record, THEN it'd be a sellout move

If Rakim jumps on a New Kids on the Block record THEN it'd be a sellout move.

Selling out is dumbing down/watering down your music to appeal to a more "mainstream" audience.

Jay-Z built his career on that. Rakim & Mos Def did not.


Jay z did not motherfuhka

Hip hop the only genre where nyggas feel you can get in it, but heaven forbid you sell records.

Yall nyggaz are the most dumb, backwardz ass nyggas. I dont understand why blacks always root for underachievement. Mufuhkas do it in the classroom too. Hate to be the smartest nygga in class.

Its the record business. Jay Z makes black music. His job is to sell records.
Aint no 401k plans in the business. You better make what u can the best way you can.

I can call Florida a sellout to some extent, but im not mad at him because I know I wouldnt or most hip hop fans wouldnt buy his shyt. He chose his lane. Good for him

Yall just clowns who hate
 

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people have been bytching about sellouts so long they forgot what it meant. selling records or being popular doesn't make you a sell out.

being disingenuous really makes you a sellout... prioritizing business over art, valuing money over culture, and pursuing popularity over authenticity, that's how selling our looks... but only if you're dishonest.

Gimmicky rappers like immortal technique can be more dishonest than the blatant pop crossovers. Same with unpopular rappers desparately trying to get a foothold in music by making anything at all hoping it'll stick. It's like a politician you think share your views. Nah, its all crafted by a PR firm.

Ironically some of the "blatant sellouts" like jayz are more honest bc they're not misrepresenting themselves. Even if I personally don't think art should be treated like a business venture, at least they aren't usually pretending to care about social justice. But jay is the exception to a lot of rules. The only reason we know he wants to rhyme like common sense is because he told us. He's not a good example for stuff in general.
 

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Hate is what you do,nearly everytime ANY rapper with some success is brought up.
I get it. It hurts to be wack. You ease your plain downplaying others and talking up yourself. It's what bytch nikkas do.


I am a top draw foo foo.
When did I ever say I wanted a record deal and I drew at the top in a grassroots manner.
nikka, you do not know shyt about hiphop or me as an artist.
You keep deflecting,...it is all a deflection.

You ain't never been part of graf to say the bullshyt you talembout you fraud.



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I am a top draw foo foo.
When did I ever say I wanted a record deal and I drew at the top in a grassroots manner.
nikka, you do not know shyt about hiphop or me as an artist.
You keep deflecting,...it is all a deflection.

You ain't never been part of graf to say the bullshyt you talembout you fraud.



Art Barr
Saying you're a top grass roots draw and proving it are two different things.
I dont know about you as an artist? lmao i heard your shyt,it's posted,you're trash
 
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