Steve Kerr says young basketball players ISO too much. Wants kids to also play soccer

[Kunty McPhuck]

Soccer won't get rid of iso habits, people 'iso' in soccer too.

It's not the getting rid of ISO, you want them to be able to do both things. There is a time and place for both things within a game, otherwise a player becomes too predictable in their action. The problem they are saying, is that the kids can do all the tricky flashy stuff, but are unable to do the basic fundamentals of team ball, which is passing and moving.

 

[David_TheMan]

He isnt attacking kids. He's accepted the fact that coaching is shyt at the youth level and suggest kids saying another sport which emphasizes teamwork, with or without proper coaching. It's the ultimate team sport in that sense.

Lol, the same issue in unorganized basketball happens in unorganized soccer.

What you arr saying literally makes no sense.

Basketball is a team sport, kids will only get better playing.it rather than not playing it.

If you want better basketball players earlier try to help good coaches make contact earlier, but daying they need.to play soccer makes no sense and it does take the onus off poor coaches and puts it on the players and what THEY shoukd be doing according to elite white man

 

[Dwight Howard]

Lol, the same issue in unorganized basketball happens in unorganized soccer.

What you arr saying literally makes no sense.

Basketball is a team sport, kids will only get better playing.it rather than not playing it.

If you want better basketball players earlier try to help good coaches make contact earlier, but daying they need.to play soccer makes no sense and it does take the onus off poor coaches and puts it on the players and what THEY shoukd be doing according to elite white man

Nah

 

[Flight]

Tired of this blame it on AAU shyt from coaches and players. Teach them better if you feel a way about how the game is played.

 

[JerseyBoy23]

Playing multiple sports can be good

Don't fully agree with Kerr but I agree with your point about kids needing to play multiple sports. There's been multiple articles in the last year that have talked about the benefits of playing multiple sports rather than specializing in one sport. Honestly this one article has quotables about why multiple sports is a good thing.

Are kids who play just one sport more likely to be injured?

"Overuse injuries are more common in specialized youth athletes not necessarily because an athlete specialized, but because certain sports stress certain muscles/joints/ligaments. And over an entire childhood of playing nothing but basketball, for example, certain body parts will take much more of a beating than someone who played some basketball, wrestled and golfed."

Dr. Neeru Jayanthi, a researcher at Emory University who studies safety risks among young athletes, published a paper in 2013 that tried to understand the physical consequences of early specialization. He found that some specialization was required for athletes to reach elite status, but concluded that “intense training in a single sport to the exclusion of others should be delayed until late adolescence.”

 

[easymoneysniper]

Man cutting, off ball movement, help D and any of these team related skills is basic as fukk and can be mastered by most competent players

All superstars could play like this if they wanted, they CHOOSE the ISO life

From a talent perspective I would take an ISO star any day and get him to play more team
ball.

Can’t teach the other way round

Good team play is about the mentality - sacrificing individual glory for team success.

 

[THE MACHINE]

Lol, the same issue in unorganized basketball happens in unorganized soccer.

What you arr saying literally makes no sense.

Basketball is a team sport, kids will only get better playing.it rather than not playing it.

If you want better basketball players earlier try to help good coaches make contact earlier, but daying they need.to play soccer makes no sense and it does take the onus off poor coaches and puts it on the players and what THEY shoukd be doing according to elite white man

Yep, kids are playing 3860394 games a week so coaches are basically rolling the ball out on the floor and saying just keep it in the best player's hands. Thats not the way bball is supposed to be played and you don't need to enroll your child into soccer to fix it, just so he can come back to the coach and hear the coach say "Here, take the ball and go win us a championship. Dont pass to him, him or him anymore." That kid is more than capable of learning passing and spacing by learning proper basketball. Yeah, go play other sports to stay active and develop other interests but I'm not about to tell my kid to go play soccer to help him move without the ball, when I can teach him to move without the ball in a basketball gym.

 

[iceberg_is_on_fire]

AAU needs to die.

 

[hashmander]

Well the spacing in football when teams are defending in a low block and the attacking team is trying to get past the 10 defenders isn't that too dissimilar to what happens in basketball.

and what's the best way to beat that? individual brilliance.

AAU does need to die, but i'm tired of these pro teams in america bytching about the system when they are too cheap to change it. if you want to look to europe, look at the academies, not some player attitudes shyt.

 

[Kunty McPhuck]

and what's the best way to beat that? individual brilliance.

AAU does need to die, but i'm tired of these pro teams in america bytching about the system when they are too cheap to change it. if you want to look to europe, look at the academies, not some player attitudes shyt.

Not necessarily. If you overload the play down a side and shift the defence to one side, if you can switch the play to the free space quickly, youll get your favourable match up vs trying to navigate thru a wall of bodies. The common problem that teams have in trying to break down a low block defence is they don't move the ball quick enough or the movements to pull defenders out with them to create the space.

 

[Conan]

Well the spacing in football when teams are defending in a low block and the attacking team is trying to get past the 10 defenders isn't that too dissimilar to what happens in basketball.

I agree. To piggyback on this, if you look at a Guardiola side, yes being able to beat a man 1 on 1 is important, but it is the movement of the other players off the ball that provide the isolation for the 1 on 1s to be most successful.

I don't think basketball players have to play soccer to understand the importance of spacing. Exposure to different sports can only help though.

 

[Conan]

Not necessarily. If you overload the play down a side and shift the defence to one side, if you can switch the play to the free space quickly, youll get your favourable match up vs trying to navigate thru a wall of bodies. The common problem that teams have in trying to break down a low block defence is they don't move the ball quick enough or the movements to pull defenders out with them to create the space.

Facts.

 

[Kaypain]

Also im starting to peep these comments from these euro and anayltics loving dudes

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

If it wasn't for MJ, KD, and Timothy isolating and scoring he wouldn't have his job or the overwhelming majority of his rings. nikka praising a regular playoff failure, when these ISO scorers are responsible for his entire life .

Imagine thinking you had a point with this dumb ass shyt.



MJ, Duncan, and KD all played and won in systems that had motion-offense principles.

How the hell are you going to bring up Duncan to layer your point when he played in a team that literally sacrificed individualism and high-volume stats for the betterment of the team for his entire career? Did you conveniently forget the identity of the Spurs over the last two decades? How the hell are you going to bring up KD when Kerr's system/coaching not only beat him, not only enticed him to join (he spoke about how GS' strength in numbers was what drew him in), but helped him win - where did KD's isolating and scoring get him before he went to the Warriors?

And to think that KD's isolating and scoring is the reason why they won with him is further proof that y'all don't know shyt about the game. If you seriously think the Warriors won simply because KD was ISO'ng it up, well, perhaps you need to find a new sport to follow.

They have taken every measure to take ISO out of the game and manufacture a more wide open, up and down, anti-bigs/post play game and yet and still when it gets tight in May in June, that's pretty much what it comes down to. When nikkas get tired and the other team knows your sets all that cute shyt goes out the window and you gotta go get it.

What the fukk is up with y'all nikkas and y'all straw man bullshyt?

Kerr's already spoken about how in a condensed setting like the playoffs is where you put the ball in your best players' hands and get them to go to work. Why do you think he's not aware of this? Why do you think that bringing this up proves his point wrong about players needing to adopt better team-orientated habits? Why simplify his argument to this nonsense?

And just as a sidenote: one of the main reasons why the Warriors were on the brink of losing the '18 WCF was Durant abandoning the system and even admitting he was at fault by trying to ISO too much, which sparked the whole Kerr-Durant / Phil-MJ "trust your teammates" exchange. Funnily enough, when the Warriors started to run the offense through Steph/Klay and get more ball/player movement going in G6/7, that's when they regained control of the series.

 

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

Don't fully agree with Kerr but I agree with your point about kids needing to play multiple sports. There's been multiple articles in the last year that have talked about the benefits of playing multiple sports rather than specializing in one sport. Honestly this one article has quotables about why multiple sports is a good thing.

Are kids who play just one sport more likely to be injured?

The main thing for me is to prevent burnout. One sport too often can make the kid just give up and say fukk it

Sidenote..tennis and basketball are an interesting comparison. I played tons of both. Its great for footwork, creativity, hand speed and anticipation but it fukks up the eyes. In basketball u never keep your head down. In tennis youre supposed to watch the ball hit the strings. So i basically had to rewire myself