"Steve Kerr Ain't Coaching Sh!t"-Dennis Rodman

[FaTaL]

He had Chris simms. Team was moving I. The right direction and after that injury it went back

No coach is great at building qb, you either find a good one or you don’t. Dungy wasn’t good at building qbs either. We all know he didn’t do shyt with colts offense. That was all Peyton and in tb he never developed one either

With Gruden bucs key players got old and they fell off

well if your the gm isnt your job to replace them?

he had full control there, it is what it is

 

[calh45]

I hate these takes. Dingy had mad years with that team. He ain’t win shyt. fukk who he drafted if he couldn’t get them over the hump. Clearly gruden was able to do something better then dungy and he gets all the credit of winning

Nah. The imprint of a coach doesn't disappear the next year. The years Dungy had with them mad even more of an imprint. Even now they still bring up Dungy more than Gruden. Just like the Dub trio brings up Mark Jackson too. Dungy was able to get another one later in Indy too so that speaks to his ability to at the very least run a consistently competent competitive team.

Gruden could never develop a young qb and was a terrible scout. Dungy handed him the keys of a loaded team and Gruden slowly decimated them

Gruden still won though. The results matter if the end result is a super bowl win.

 

[FaTaL]

Nah. The imprint of a coach doesn't disappear the next year. The years Dungy had with them mad even more of an imprint. Even now they still bring up Dungy more than Gruden. Just like the Dub trio brings up Mark Jackson too. Dungy was able to get another one later in Indy too so that speaks to his ability to at the very least run a consistently competent competitive team.



Gruden still won though. The results matter if the end result is a super bowl win.

yes he won, he also ran them into the ground. at the end of the day i guess it was worth it for that one ring

 

[calh45]

yes he won, he also ran them into the ground. at the end of the day i guess it was worth it for that one ring

In the end if the target is a championship and they won their first one ever in Tampa the end justifies the means. The same with the Lakers and Bron trading for AD. The Lakers are fukked for the next handful of years, but they won that ship. It just means that Gruden is capable of the final push, but not the initial development like Dungy was. I didn't initially think Kerr could develop anyone, but this year he took the season to actively develop Poole and Wiggins for the playoffs. They were the players we needed. I still don't think Dennis was actually wrong with this take, harsh? Yes, but that first championship was a Mark Jackson team. They were absolutely on the way up until Mark went full anti-gay preacher on their gay general manager. Mark would've won at least one with two of the best shooters of all time by accident.

 

[Ineedmoney504]

Nah. The imprint of a coach doesn't disappear the next year. The years Dungy had with them mad even more of an imprint. Even now they still bring up Dungy more than Gruden. Just like the Dub trio brings up Mark Jackson too. Dungy was able to get another one later in Indy too so that speaks to his ability to at the very least run a consistently competent competitive team.



Gruden still won though. The results matter if the end result is a super bowl win.

I mean gruden built the raiders and literally got cheated out of a sb appearance

 

[Ineedmoney504]

In the end if the target is a championship and they won their first one ever in Tampa the end justifies the means. The same with the Lakers and Bron trading for AD. The Lakers are fukked for the next handful of years, but they won that ship. It just means that Gruden is capable of the final push, but not the initial development like Dungy was. I didn't initially think Kerr could develop anyone, but this year he took the season to actively develop Poole and Wiggins for the playoffs. They were the players we needed. I still don't think Dennis was actually wrong with this take, harsh? Yes, but that first championship was a Mark Jackson team. They were absolutely on the way up until Mark went full anti-gay preacher on their gay general manager. Mark would've won at least one with two of the best shooters of all time by accident.

Warriors was never gonna win with curry and klay playing iso ball and dray would have never saw the court cause jackson wanted the team to play iso with klay, Barnes, lee and curry

Curry or klay never reached full potential, and being honest Curry probably injures himself playing that way.

The never get kd, cause wanted to play in a non iso kinda system, which is why he went to gs in the first place.

 

[ikbm]

That has not been proven and it’s false. Dray makes way more plays then just throwing to klay or steph off a screen dummy. Watch the game, if any team could do it, trailblazers would have went to the finals. They didn’t have a wing who could do it or they would be playing like steph and klay

Dray rebounds, drives up court(cause he they pg for real and makes the smart plays). He much more careful with the ball then steph.

His iq is top notch. See you didn’t respond to his defense on Tatum and brown. He locked them both up when he guarded them

Are you watching the game? Looney assist come off o boards

the selfless shyt never gets credit. who is the one pushing pace off the glass to get into sets faster and facilitate fast break points? who is the one setting dozens of screens for steph or klay to free them up? who is playing the highest level of team defense as far as helping while keeping their assignment under wraps. they had to switch draymond (a big) onto a hyperathletic guard (brown) and he locked that shyt up while also closing up lanes and making key rotations to shooters.
klay was getting destroyed by jalen then game 2 happened

its inexplicable to these dudes. lol
BOTH of their numbers going down plays into drays ability to damn near teleport on defense and consistently make the right read
steph, dray, kerr are all key ingredients to title contention and they couldnt do it without one another. obviously steph is the generational talent....but to discard dray is some low iq or extremely biased shyt.

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

He wasn't right at the time.

He just threw that statement out there (keep in mind, this was only a month into Kerr's coaching career). He had absolutely no idea of what was happening in GS - he knew less than the Casual fan (I bet he couldn't even tell you who was on the squad). I'd imagine there's ill-will between them dating from way back, which is why he took this unnecessary shot in the first place.

Nah OP didn't include the last tweet...




Rodman, as you said, was asked about Kerr one month into coaching.. Him saying "he ain't coaching shyt" was him saying "he just got there. the established coaches are running things and he's sitting back and learning."

He wasn't saying this deep into the playoffs in year 3.

They're also cool since

 

[Dem313wayz]

Draymond guarded Tatum?? Classic case of Draymond fans taking undue credit. No tf he didnt. Wiggins was on Tatum, klay was on brown. And Steph filled in on switches (very well surprisingly). Draymond was help if that. Who was Draymond guarding? Horford, who put up the best game of his life while Draymond was late to close outs in game 1.

2nd, I literally mentioned Looney for his defense

With KD, Steph is Steph and klay stretches the D. To imply they are the same as Draymond is laughable but expected from draymomd fans. and KD played the best D of his life w/ GS and averaged a career high assists. They woulda been more than fine defensively and from a playmaking standpoint

But most importantly: With KD-Steph-Klay you gotta have something ABNORMAL happen for them to even lose a game let alone a series. Yet that’s exactly what almost happened vs Houston. So what happened!!? Steph avg 26,6, and 6 on slightly less then normal shooting but nothing crazy. KD averaged 30 on good efficiency. Klay avg 19 on 50% from 3. So what the hell happened?? Draymond shot 40% from the field and went 2/17 from 3…in 40 minutes per game. That’s playing 4 on 5, there’s your abnormal. Draymond fans don’t understand how causation works. GS wins in spite of Draymond, not because of him

Draymond was guarding Brown and switch and rotated on whoever. Draymond help defense and iq was making it extremely difficult on what Boston wanted to do

 

[areohbee824]

One of the dumbest takes out there, and there’s a lot of them

 

[Mike Wins]

Warriors was never gonna win with curry and klay playing iso ball and dray would have never saw the court cause jackson wanted the team to play iso with klay, Barnes, lee and curry

Curry or klay never reached full potential, and being honest Curry probably injures himself playing that way.

The never get kd, cause wanted to play in a non iso kinda system, which is why he went to gs in the first place.

This.

Jackson deserves credit for rebuilding the culture, getting these players to buy in on defense which been a big part of their run.

But that stone age iso ball offense he ran was never gonna win deep in the playoffs with GS personnel. They'd eventually get worn down by the bigger and more athletic teams. Team built around Steph, Klay and Dray need an offense based on pace, precision and skill. Kerr's offense the exact opposite of what Jackson was running, allows them to get easy shots and wear down bigger teams

 

[calh45]

Warriors was never gonna win with curry and klay playing iso ball and dray would have never saw the court cause jackson wanted the team to play iso with klay, Barnes, lee and curry

Curry or klay never reached full potential, and being honest Curry probably injures himself playing that way.

The never get kd, cause wanted to play in a non iso kinda system, which is why he went to gs in the first place.

You can't say this definitively when this title was Steph going ISO most of this series. With that level of talent Mark would've at least gotten one with a team of Steph, Klay, Draymond, still athletic as fukk Igoudala, and Harrison Barnes along with Bogut, Draymond coming off the bench, with David Lee who was a BETTER passer than Draymond was and shot maker. David Lee was underrated as fukk as he became less important as an offensive option. They would've outscored everyone.

In your argument, Kerr initially gets partial credit for Steph's longevity, but even then that was mostly Steph's team more than it was Kerr changing how he played. Steph's team changed his muscle structure. He literally relearned how to walk. That wasn't a HC decision.

 

[Ineedmoney504]

the selfless shyt never gets credit. who is the one pushing pace off the glass to get into sets faster and facilitate fast break points? who is the one setting dozens of screens for steph or klay to free them up? who is playing the highest level of team defense as far as helping while keeping their assignment under wraps. they had to switch draymond (a big) onto a hyperathletic guard (brown) and he locked that shyt up while also closing up lanes and making key rotations to shooters.
klay was getting destroyed by jalen then game 2 happened

its inexplicable to these dudes. lol
BOTH of their numbers going down plays into drays ability to damn near teleport on defense and consistently make the right read
steph, dray, kerr are all key ingredients to title contention and they couldnt do it without one another. obviously steph is the generational talent....but to discard dray is some low iq or extremely biased shyt.

You can't say this definitively when this title was Steph going ISO most of this series. With that level of talent Mark would've at least gotten one with a team of Steph, Klay, Draymond, still athletic as fukk Igoudala, and Harrison Barnes along with Bogut, Draymond coming off the bench, with David Lee who was a BETTER passer than Draymond was and shot maker. David Lee was underrated as fukk as he became less important as an offensive option. They would've outscored everyone.

In your argument, Kerr initially gets partial credit for Steph's longevity, but even then that was mostly Steph's team more than it was Kerr changing how he played. Steph's team changed his muscle structure. He literally relearned how to walk. That wasn't a HC decision.

Nah I disagree fully. Klay playing iso isn’t even a factor tbh. He never in life shoulda been playing that way. They ceiling at best was Trail Blazers.

Plus we saw steph try to idk himself into offs the year after kd left and he got hurt. His ankles can’t handle that

 

[CSquare43]

@Gil Scott-Heroin

 

[Squirrel from Meteor Man]

What’s that sound?

Ahh, yes the window closing. Time to put this clown out to pasture with his buddy Steve Nash and he can take Draymond with him.