BlueHeffner
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Well curry and klay was expendable with kd also. Remove either one of them and they still win with kd. Y’all bugging
KD on the Warriors without Steph was barely a .500 team. The Cavs wouldve beat them.
Well curry and klay was expendable with kd also. Remove either one of them and they still win with kd. Y’all bugging
Sure?Kerr has as many titles as pat Riley it just is what it is. The winners write history
just stfu bruh and stop talking. Dray was guarding them dudes heavy. Klay wasn’t stopping shyt. Wiggins and dray was defending. And he high assist multiple times. If it was so easy why nobody else can come in and do the same role?Draymond guarded Tatum?? Classic case of Draymond fans taking undue credit. No tf he didnt. Wiggins was on Tatum, klay was on brown. And Steph filled in on switches (very well surprisingly). Draymond was help if that. Who was Draymond guarding? Horford, who put up the best game of his life while Draymond was late to close outs in game 1.
2nd, I literally mentioned Looney for his defense
With KD, Steph is Steph and klay stretches the D. To imply they are the same as Draymond is laughable but expected from draymomd fans. and KD played the best D of his life w/ GS and averaged a career high assists. They woulda been more than fine defensively and from a playmaking standpoint
But most importantly: With KD-Steph-Klay you gotta have something ABNORMAL happen for them to even lose a game let alone a series. Yet that’s exactly what almost happened vs Houston. So what happened!!? Steph avg 26,6, and 6 on slightly less then normal shooting but nothing crazy. KD averaged 30 on good efficiency. Klay avg 19 on 50% from 3. So what the hell happened?? Draymond shot 40% from the field and went 2/17 from 3…in 40 minutes per game. That’s playing 4 on 5, there’s your abnormal. Draymond fans don’t understand how causation works. GS wins in spite of Draymond, not because of him
Then they went into the playoffs and was smoking people anyway. Who cares about regular season? When they had won 2 b2b ships. Cavs woulda loss to kd with a curry less warriors in the finals. He won one game in the span of 2 years and that’s mainly cause of kd dominance.
KD on the Warriors without Steph was barely a .500 team. The Cavs wouldve beat them.
It's actually to the contrary.Draymond has become the Rorschach test for real hoop fans. Any fan that overvalues dude doesn’t know the game.
I MAYBE give you the first ring, but then they won 2 with KD. He was 100% expandable.
Then this one, you can make an argument he’s the only reason Boston even won 2 games. He played historically bad the first few games and his lack of shooting is what had GS playing 4 on 5, had people think Boston was the bad boy pistons.
Otto Porter would have been just fine as the starting 4. He shot 58% from 3. Looney balls out when he gets minutes. Averaged 10 and 10 in the WCF. He’s solid as their defensive anchor. They don’t need that ngga Draymond bruh
All of this is tragically wrongDraymond has become the Rorschach test for real hoop fans. Any fan that overvalues dude doesn’t know the game.
I MAYBE give you the first ring, but then they won 2 with KD. He was 100% expandable.
Then this one, you can make an argument he’s the only reason Boston even won 2 games. He played historically bad the first few games and his lack of shooting is what had GS playing 4 on 5, had people think Boston was the bad boy pistons.
Otto Porter would have been just fine as the starting 4. He shot 58% from 3. Looney balls out when he gets minutes. Averaged 10 and 10 in the WCF. He’s solid as their defensive anchor. They don’t need that ngga Draymond bruh
Undervalue? I don't think they don't know shyt, but they definitely don't know shyt if they don't see his value to this W's team.It's actually to the contrary.
Anyone that undervalues him doesn't know shyt about hoops, as you're demonstrating in this thread.
He wasn't right at the time.Dennis may have been right at the time he said this, but it definitely doesn't apply now. Not even close. I don't think it's a case of a take aging badly, but Kerr becoming an incredible coach
He said this in 2014, right? I still think that team had more of Mark Jackson's drive to them than they did Kerr's influence. Similar to Dungy and Gruden in Tampa Bay. Not coaching at all sounds like a shot, but Gruden won the Super Bowl with Dungy's team and folks asked the same questions about Gruden. The difference since 2014 is Kerr went back many times since then......Gruden had no appearances after that Tampa SB win.He wasn't right at the time.
He just threw that statement out there (keep in mind, this was only a month into Kerr's coaching career). He had absolutely no idea of what was happening in GS - he knew less than the Casual fan (I bet he couldn't even tell you who was on the squad). I'd imagine there's ill-will between them dating from way back, which is why he took this unnecessary shot in the first place.
Gruden could never develop a young qb and was a terrible scout. Dungy handed him the keys of a loaded team and Gruden slowly decimated themHe said this in 2014, right? I still think that team had more of Mark Jackson's drive to them than they did Kerr's influence. Similar to Dungy and Gruden in Tampa Bay. Not coaching at all sounds like a shot, but Gruden won the Super Bowl with Dungy's team and folks asked the same questions about Gruden. The difference since 2014 is Kerr went back many times since then......Gruden had no appearances after that Tampa SB win.
Yea this is on-brand for Draymond fans. You can’t actually articulate what he does, you just think it sounds cool or knowledgeable to say ‘it’s about more than points’.All of this is tragically wrong
He said this in 2014, right? I still think that team had more of Mark Jackson's drive to them than they did Kerr's influence. Similar to Dungy and Gruden in Tampa Bay. Not coaching at all sounds like a shot, but Gruden won the Super Bowl with Dungy's team and folks asked the same questions about Gruden. The difference since 2014 is Kerr went back many times since then......Gruden had no appearances after that Tampa SB win.
I hate these takes. Dingy had mad years with that team. He ain’t win shyt. fukk who he drafted if he couldn’t get them over the hump. Clearly gruden was able to do something better then dungy and he gets all the credit of winningGruden could never develop a young qb and was a terrible scout. Dungy handed him the keys of a loaded team and Gruden slowly decimated them
I hate these takes. Dingy had mad years with that team. He ain’t win shyt. fukk who he drafted if he couldn’t get them over the hump. Clearly gruden was able to do something better then dungy and he gets all the credit of winning
That has not been proven and it’s false. Dray makes way more plays then just throwing to klay or steph off a screen dummy. Watch the game, if any team could do it, trailblazers would have went to the finals. They didn’t have a wing who could do it or they would be playing like steph and klayYea this is on-brand for Draymond fans. You can’t actually articulate what he does, you just think it sounds cool or knowledgeable to say ‘it’s about more than points’.
Again, he hasn’t been “needed” since they signed KD. Don’t tell me about defense, there’s a bunch of solid switchable bigs in the league and yes he’s one of ‘em. Cool. That’s it. No different than Dennis Rodman being important to the bulls, but they still would have (and did) win without him. So when you have the audacity to say a team with KD, Steph, and Klay “wouldn’t win a title without Draymond “, you are an analytics baby and/or you aint never hooped.
As far as playmaking, look at Kevon looney and Otto porter. When Draymond got ejected, Porter comes in and finished 2nd on the team with 4 assists in about 15 min. Looney is a big 1990s limited center with no playmaking skills but just averaged 3 assists per game in 20 minutes. This is not a coincidence. The assists Draymond gets are a function of the high low action, Steph and klay off picks, and dribble handoffs. ANYONE in that position would get those assists and that’s been proven
He had Chris simms. Team was moving I. The right direction and after that injury it went backgive him the credit for winning, give him the credit for running the team into the ground as well
fair?