Steph Curry right now is better than Kobe ever was

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The Coli is weird.

You have objective numbers showing that Steph Curry gets 80% of his offense from the three, and you STILL have people saying "he does more than that".

Yeah, there is another 20% to account for, but how are you arguing that 80% is not significantly larger than 20%???

He gets out-assisted by a small forward, the other guard (Klay) guards the other team's best guard, and he can't stop literally any NBA guard from getting what they want.

What the fukk else does he do????? What aspect of basketball am I missing here?

Gravity is the weakest argument you could ever come up with simply because it applies to every single superstar that has ever played. T-Mac got doubled nightly. LeBron routinely has to drive through 3-4 defenders. Kobe was doubled or tripled every single game.

Here is a picture of Prime Shaq:

p1wayk0i95g21.jpg


Why the fukk are y'all acting like a star player being doubled and tripled is anything new????? :what::what::what::what:
 
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First of all, the claim is that he's one-dimensional. That isn't to say he can't do other things, it is just an objective statement based on how he chooses to play the game. However, you're more than welcome to try to refute the point with any kind of evidence.

Here's mine: Stephen Curry 2021-22 Shooting | Basketball-Reference.com

Just from this year alone, his shooting stats tell you out of 1200 FGs, 968 (NINE HUNDRED SIXTY EIGHT) of them have been threes.

Not long twos, not midrange. Nine hundred and sixty-eight shots out of 1200 have been threes.

I can't believe people are in here trying to pretend like he really does anything else with any kind of regularity. :mjlol:
The Coli is weird.

You have objective numbers showing that Steph Curry gets 80% of his offense from the three, and you STILL have people saying "he does more than that".

Yeah, there is another 20% to account for, but how are you arguing that 80% is not significantly larger than 20%???

He gets out-assisted by a small forward, the other guard (Klay) guards the other team's best guard, and he can't stop literally any NBA guard from getting what they want.

What the fukk else does he do????? What aspect of basketball am I missing here?

Gravity is the weakest argument you could ever come up with simply because it applies to every single superstar that has ever played. T-Mac got doubled nightly. LeBron routinely has to drive through 3-4 defenders. Kobe was doubled or tripled every single game.

Here is a picture of Prime Shaq:

p1wayk0i95g21.jpg


Why the fukk are y'all acting like a star player being doubled and tripled is anything new????? :what::what::what::what:
Just because his scoring is primarily taking three-point shots doesn't make him one-dimensional. Kyle Korver is someone who was one-dimensional; he ran around screens to shoot, and didn't do anything else of note, because he couldn't. Steph can score efficiently from every space of the floor (OFD or C&S), and really nobody in NBA history can lay claim to that. Just because he isn't as active from the midrange as he once was doesn't mean he's one-dimensional - he can still score from that zone just as efficiently as anyone, but because a 3 is worth more than 2, it only makes sense for 3s to be his shot selection diet, and the midrange is only complementary to that.

That's how the NBA operates now.

Ask yourself, why the hell would Steph shoot more long 2s when he's the greatest 3-pt shooter ever? Why would he not take the shot that results in more points? Just to appease some bum ass nxgga on a msgboard that he isn't one-dimensional?

Never mind the fact that calling a player one-dimensional is disrespectful too. You don't call someone that as a term of endearment or praise.

It's insinuating that he doesn't do anything else, and it's insinuating that the one thing that Steph does isn't greater than someone who you perceive has a more varied game. Judging by how you argue I can see you've been surrounded by Casuals before joining this board. You're far too literal and black/white with how you view the game, especially using surface stats in the manner that you do. I can tell nobody has been able to point out the holes in your thinking.

Furthermore, if you were to layer your point about Steph shooting 3s, it's not like he's standing in a corner and waiting for the ball to shoot a set-shot. That would be one-dimensional - that would be what P.J. Tucker essentially is on offense. Nobody in the history of the game shoots the ball in as many different ways as he does: PnR, catch-and-shoot, ISO, pulling up from x-feet behind the arc, coming off screens, setting screens and splitting behind the arc, all at varying angles whether his feet are set or not. He takes impossible shots and makes them look like they're normal. There's nothing one-dimensional about his approach to shooting/scoring. Take Dame for instance, who regularly comes to dead-ends in the playoffs largely because once you cut off his water by forcing the ball out of his hands or trapping him, he's not going to run around endlessly to free himself to get open. He's someone that isn't active without the ball. That's the difference between him and someone like Steph, who is constantly moving to find openings and/or getting the ball back when it's been forced from his grasp. That's what separates Steph from other stars, and why he and his team have had the success they've had. He's changed the way the game has played and nobody has been able to replicate it. It's why I told you that you will not get a superstar who is willing to sacrifice his time of possession and surface stats for the betterment of the team. Steph is out there leading the monster away from the main group, so his teammates can get away.

Steph is quite literally the least one-dimensional player in the game. He can be a dominant ball-handler if his team needs him to; he can play off-the-ball to allow players like Draymond and Iggy to have a greater role on offense; he is equally adept at playing with and without the ball, and with every single style and temperament of player. He can score at all three levels, he can playmake without needing to monopolize the ball, he'll run around distracting defenders to open up the floor for his teammates., he'll set off-ball screens for his teammates to get open, he won't encroach on his teammates' skillsets.

He's a chameleon.

You keep trying to reiterate this point about his assists. Why do you have such a hard time comprehending that the Warriors offense generates more open/easy scoring opportunities than any system ever because of how unselfish he is? He could easily dominate the ball and put up however many assists it is you want him to reach, but the offense would be less effective. His teammates wouldn't get the open shots they typically get, his teammates wouldn't get to touch the ball as regularly as they do (the chemistry is created by everyone touching the ball; there's a special magic to everyone being involved that makes them a better team), and they wouldn't be as effective on offense.

Draymond getting more assists doesn't mean he's a better passer or playmaker. Draymond is used in that role because once Steph takes out his man and Dray's man, Draymond can then find the open man with the 4v3 (even 4v2) advantage that Steph creates. Steph could just as easily be in a D'Antoni-style offense where he's strangling the life out of the ball, putting up 30 ppg and 10+ assists, but again, that wouldn't make the team better. That literally goes against your argument of him being one-dimensional because he can be a playmaker with the ball when he needs to, and he can create secondary playmaking opportunities for his teammates, allowing them to actually have a purpose and impact in the offense. The Warriors would not have the success they've had if Steph wasn't willing to play off-the-ball like he does because players like Draymond wouldn't have a whole of impact on the offensive end.

Posting a still of Shaq dunking is not a reflection of gravity. Defenders are typically in/around the paint, as that's the norm of NBA defense (especially during that period in time), so it only stands to reason if someone is in the midst of dunking that there's going to be defenders around him. If you don't understand Steph's gravity after all these years, and how it differs from every other star to play the game, well, there's no hope for you.

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80% of Steph's scoring is from 3s - that mean's he's one-dimensional" - 2022 posters.


And you can hold this ignore for me real quick too with the "2022 pOsTeR" bullshyt. If you can't respect me as a poster because of my join date, it's fukk you, you dead to me.
 
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I'm not gon go back and forth with you because It's clear I can't say anything that's going to change your mind.

YOU don't even put Curry over Magic, so what the fukk we talking about? You already agree.

There is nothing more to talk about. :salute:
I don't believe Steph should be ranked until his prime is over, then we can start having a proper discussion on where exactly he sits when we've got his resume, in its entirety, well, what is relevant to his all-time ranking. I'm simply pointing out your flawed logic with how you measure his game/impact. You're not the first one to make this mistake and you damn sure as hell won't be the last one.

:manny:

And you can hold this ignore for me real quick too with the "2022 pOsTeR" bullshyt. If you can't respect me as a poster because of my join date, it's fukk you, you dead to me.
First of all, using a dictionary definition of "one-dimensional" completely removes the basketball context of the word, and how it's used in hoops discourse. If someone says a player is a one-dimensional, it typically means they aren't a great player and don't have any versatility to their game. Is there anyone in the discussion for a top-15 player of all-time (which Steph will at the very least land when it's all said and done) who you'd call one-dimensional?

Of course, not. Nobody would disrespect a GOAT player by saying they're one-dimensional. Not just by the definition of it, but it's not something you'd label one of the greatest players to play the game.

Furthermore, that definition you referenced says "lacking depth and complexity. Superficial.". You're gonna sit there and tell me that Steph lacks depth and complexity to his game? You're gonna tell me that his game is superficial?

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Im perfectly fine with Steph eclipsing Kobe. Unfortunately, Kobe had the bad luck (in hindsight) of playing with Shaq for so many of his best years so he couldn't build a strong record on his own for the same amount of time that his peers did. But that's fine because Steph is a worthy person to put over him. Steph did it the right way. Steph dominated. Steph revolutionized basketball. Steph didn't build superteams over and over and over and when his team took a mean L with injuries and lack of depth, he just packed it up for 2 years and came right back. I'll always respect that over other corny ass players that won't be named :umad: I still love Kobe more though :ehh:
 

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I don't think Steph better then Kobe, but how this thread became about Lebron?

Im perfectly fine with Steph eclipsing Kobe. Unfortunately, Kobe had the bad luck (in hindsight) of playing with Shaq for so many of his best years so he couldn't build a strong record on his own for the same amount of time that his peers did. But that's fine because Steph is a worthy person to put over him. Steph did it the right way. Steph dominated. Steph revolutionized basketball. Steph didn't build superteams over and over and over and when his team took a mean L with injuries and lack of depth, he just packed it up for 2 years and came right back. I'll always respect that over other corny ass players that won't be named :umad: I still love Kobe more though :ehh:

Exhibit A: insecure Kobe stans.

Does that answer your question, @Mike18jj ?
 

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Unfortunately, Kobe had the bad luck (in hindsight) of playing with Shaq for so many of his best years so he couldn't build a strong record on his own for the same amount of time that his peers did.

He played 12 years post-Shaq, that's Magic's entire Lakers run minus the brief '96 comeback. What are you talking about, g?
 

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Dont address shyt.

Youre only good for talking about niqqas in here. You contribute zero. Its so bytch made and moist.

Im upfront and honest about shyt. Youre more a Kobe stan than Laker fan.

Trump supporter actions live in you. Went straight “whataboutism”

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Trash poster. Dumb ass NBA fan.

Nah you’re just a fukking fakkit who ignores all the dumb shyt LeGBT says and then wanna act balanced while always crying about some Kobe shyt. Funny how you gonna question me being a laker fan when ONLY Bron fans say shyt like that, you don’t even post in the Laker thread you’ve never been up in the Laker discord you wasn’t going to Laker games as a baby but I’m not really a laker fan because I’m not a LeGBT fakkit . YOU don’t even talk about the lakers with other laker fans and switched teams to the nets and wanna talk about who’s a real fan:mjlol:

You out here posting dictionary definitions like the real passive aggressive hoe that you Are.Everyone knows you LeGBT fakkits ruined the forum so to continue to with this “contribute zero “ shyt is hilarious. There’s nothing to contribute here and YOU will never call it out and will continue to deflect every time I call you out for being a biased little bytch. nikka made a whole thread saying Harden was better than Wade just to suck Bron dikk but of course you said nothing. But you wanna press the line about 0-12 Pau gasol with 1 all star appearance before Kobe and act like we’re downplaying him

Oh yeah, NO ONE cares about your little college project you did about MJ and the media, that’s why your tweets about it get 0 likes and 0 replies, fukk nikka :mjlol:
 

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Hoe ass @10bandz took his earrings and heels off and went ham :mjlol:

bytch ass nikka probably twisting his neck around violently on some Sheneneh from Martin shyt :mjlol:

Spicy ass hoe
 

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Nah you’re just a fukking fakkit who ignores all the dumb shyt LeGBT says and then wanna act balanced while always crying about some Kobe shyt. Funny how you gonna question me being a laker fan when ONLY Bron fans say shyt like that, you don’t even post in the Laker thread you’ve never been up in the Laker discord you wasn’t going to Laker games as a baby but I’m not really a laker fan because I’m not a LeGBT fakkit . YOU don’t even talk about the lakers with other laker fans and switched teams to the nets and wanna talk about who’s a real fan:mjlol:

You out here posting dictionary definitions like the real passive aggressive hoe that you Are.Everyone knows you LeGBT fakkits ruined the forum so to continue to with this “contribute zero “ shyt is hilarious. There’s nothing to contribute here and YOU will never call it out and will continue to deflect every time I call you out for being a biased little bytch. nikka made a whole thread saying Harden was better than Wade just to suck Bron dikk but of course you said nothing. But you wanna press the line about 0-12 Pau gasol with 1 all star appearance before Kobe and act like we’re downplaying him

Oh yeah, NO ONE cares about your little college project you did about MJ and the media, that’s why your tweets about it get 0 likes and 0 replies, fukk nikka :mjlol:
Ignore? You pivoted to Lebron in this thread. You even went as far as created an imagined profile on me. You are a complete shyt poster who is only good to talk about niqqas. “Everyone knows” ….who the fukk nominated you to talk for niqqas? :laff:
 
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