Steph Curry right now is better than Kobe ever was

[Roger king]

First it was has Dame surpassed Steph, now its are we sure he is even better than peak Dwade?


You continue to show you dont know shyt about hoops


Stephs peak is just as good as anybody that has walked through this league outside maybe Michael Jeffrey Jordan

Pure fantasy and just making up nonsense. Magic johnson was the best player in the NBA finals and dominated it as a ROOKIE nothing curry has done in his career comes even close to that, he choked a 3-1 lead while having numerous all stars on his team. He is not even the best player at his position, the idea he is top 10 or is just as good as anyone is insanity

 

[steph_harden]

Dub

 

[steph_harden]

No tf he wasn’t, wtf????

 

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Sorry, if you replaced steph with a prime kobe (28) on this same team, this series would have been over by now.
Kobe beat 3 hall of famers on the same team (kevin, Paul, ray) celtics team

Incomparison to this team with just Tatum an brown and smart an curry has his hands full...even though he's playing with 2 other hall of famers (clay, draymond) an future all star (poole) and yet this series is tied 2-2



If kobe never played defense and just focused on offense, his numbers would far more ridiculous

 

[Saint1]

Someone help me. I ain't well-versed in all that.

Wasn't peak Wade foul-baiting?

He always and the talent and the athleticism. But didn't he find a whistle baiting gimmick when he was at his peak?

I ain't trolling I'm actually asking

 

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A curry lead team has the regular season wins record despite losing the finals that year.

Curry may end up with the same amount of rings as Kobe with better finals statistics.

Curry is the best to ever do it at the most important ability in the sport.

Shaq was more important than Kobe in at least 2 of their 3 rings. Theres the classic argument of KD vs Curry in their rings but I think that discussion is far closer than the Kobe-Shaq debate.

I dont really know what to make of a Klay vs Pau debate but I think Curry and Klay beating the Cavs with LeBron is more impressive than Kobe, Pau and Odom beating the Magic with Howard but probably less impressive than Kobe beating the Celtics.

When looking at these factors, people have to objectively admit that it is at the very least very close. If you prefer a players playing style and intangibles and like them more that is fine and more than acceptable. To some extent these ranking debates tend to devolve into subjectivity anyway.

See below

Sorry, if you replaced steph with a prime kobe (28) on this same team, this series would have been over by now.
Kobe beat 3 hall of famers on the same team (kevin, Paul, ray) celtics team

Incomparison to this team with just Tatum an brown and smart an curry has his hands full...even though he's playing with 2 other hall of famers (clay, draymond) an future all star (poole) and yet this series is tied 2-2



If kobe never played defense and just focused on offense, his numbers would far more ridiculous

And since you want to team comparisons, even if Pau and klay cancel eachother out, steph still has draymon and for 2 of those titles he had Durant.

Kobe only had shaq for the first three and Pau for the last 2.

Don't forget steph doesn't play a fraction of the defense kobe played consistently which probably took something away from his

offensive output

Also the Jordan poole effect allowed curry to come off the bench and still the warriors won the first round, kobe never had that kind of firepower team where he could be the 6th man in a playoff series and still win..

 

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Kobe took our real Celtics team by himself on the finals, lebron needed wade and Bosh to beat the same team after they mentally damaged him

Steph is going against a baby version of that yeam

Exactly what I said, if kobe was playing against this celtics team the series would be over by now

 

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NOT SURPRISED THE BALL SLURPER @murksiderock DAPPED THIS SHIIT

 

[Sccit]

He certainly has a case, clearly one of the GOAT offensive packages ever...



Bruh what happened to this poster? One of the GOATs we had on this side of the board...

This is an A1 post, only in sports do you hear people say "you can't have an opinion on something you weren't around for". Muhfukkas don't do this with fashion, art, literature, history in general, politics, and only in hip hop but not to this degree and no other form of music...

Having the knowledge to speak on any subject is imperative, doesnt really matter when you were born because nobody was around to experience every moment of time. I wish dudes would quit that archaic, idiotic thinking in The Coliseum...



Oh, the career vs career is very arguable now. It isn't definitive, and because it isn't Kobe (and all previous greats) deserves benefit of doubt until it becomes definitive, but career is more than arguable today as compared to when you posted this 6 years ago...

A bunch of All-Timers had better single seasons than Kobe's best season. I've been saying for years what you said, well before I started posting here---->Kobe's longevity of elite play is what got him into these conversations. His peak wasn't uniquely high, he doesn't have a hit list of All-Time performances in The Finals despite playing in 7 of them, or in the playoffs as a whole...

He was a 6'4/6'5 player who worked his ass off to be one of the best players in a league of giants for minimum a dozen years. THAT'S why he's an All-Timer, you can count on one hand the players who had that length of longevity, THAT'S unique...



This isn't the Comeback Kobe run. It could, I guess, be considered Steph's Comeback run, and there's a parallel to be drawn between Post-Shaq Kobe, and Post-Durant Steph. Gotta wait to see how Steph's career finishes from here to elevate it over the Comeback Kobe run...

Kobe did win an MVP, an MVP runner-up, two titles and 3 Finals appearances in his run. Can't short that...

That said, we are long overdue for a direct Steph/Kobe comparison. Steph has earned that...

BE A HOMOSEXUAL RETARD WHO THINKS HE’S INSIGHTFUL BRODIES

 

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Exactly what I said, if kobe was playing against this celtics team the series would be over by now

YA’LL NEED TO STOP ANSWERING THESE DUMBASS TROLL THREADS IN SERIOUSNESS

BEIN ABLE TO POINT N LAUGH AT THESE TRY HARD CLOWNS INSTEAD OF ENGAGING IS WHAT SEPARATES US FROM INSECURE BRON GROUPIES.

 

[Th3Birdman]

Kobe took our real Celtics team by himself on the finals, lebron needed wade and Bosh to beat the same team after they mentally damaged him

Steph is going against a baby version of that yeam

I'm a Kobe fan, but this is INACCURATE AF.

Kobe had three games where he played poorly, one of them being the final game. Game 6 is overlooked too, with Kobe going 9 for 19 and 1 of 4 from three in an UGLY game where the Celtics couldn't score 70 points.

That Laker team was perfect-- Artest, Odom, and Pau gave the Lakers great minutes in that Finals. Pau scored 130 points BY HIMSELF in that series, good for 19 PPG and 12 RPG. Not a single Celtic scored that much in that series-- PAU GASOL OUTSCORED PAUL PIERCE IN A SEVEN GAME SERIES.

Stop downplaying Kobe's help-- the nikka had HELP. Artest is literally the reason the Lakers won Game 7-- if he didn't explode for 20 points in that game, we'd be talking bout the Cs playing for their 19th title right now.

Y'all love to sit here and pretend Kobe beat that Celtics team by himself, forgetting how that series actually went, to take some weird ass shots at LeBron.

LeBron didn't BARELY beat that Celtics team when he finally got help-- he buried them bytches in FIVE games with stat totals in wins that looked like this:

22/6/5
35/2/7
35/3/14
33/4/7

LeBron has played better against that Celtics team than Kobe ever has; the only reason the Lakers beat them and the Cavs didn't, was because Kobe had help and LeBron didn't.

These all facts.

 

[Gangstar8]

I'm a Kobe fan, but this is INACCURATE AF.

Kobe had three games where he played poorly, one of them being the final game. Game 6 is overlooked too, with Kobe going 9 for 19 and 1 of 4 from three in an UGLY game where the Celtics couldn't score 70 points.

That Laker team was perfect-- Artest, Odom, and Pau gave the Lakers great minutes in that Finals. Pau scored 130 points BY HIMSELF in that series, good for 19 PPG and 12 RPG. Not a single Celtic scored that much in that series-- PAU GASOL OUTSCORED PAUL PIERCE IN THAT SERIES.

Stop downplaying Kobe's help-- the nikka had HELP. Artest is literally the reason the Lakers won Game 7-- if he didn't explode for 20 points in that game, we'd be talking bout the Cs playing for their 19th title right now.

Y'all love to sit here and pretend Kobe beat that Celtics team by himself, forgetting how that series actually went, to take some weird ass shots at LeBron.

LeBron didn't BARELY beat that Celtics team when he finally got help-- he buried them bytches in FIVE games with stat totals in wins that looked like this:

22/6/5
35/2/7
35/3/14
33/4/7

LeBron has played better against that Celtics team than Kobe ever has; the only reason the Lakers beat them and the Cavs didn't, was because Kobe had help and LeBron didn't.

These all facts.

If anything pau Gasol cost Kobe one title with his soft ass display

 

[Th3Birdman]

If anything pau Gasol cost Kobe one title with his soft ass display

Whatever. His play in 2009 and 2010 got Kobe two titles, and one more than Shaq.

You nikkas that lie on Pau's name are hoes.

 

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I don't think it's even arguable that Steph peaked higher than Kobe, there's too many supporting points to make for Steph and not nearly as many in favor of Kobe...

I'd still favor Kobe right now historically, because of the two points I mentioned earlier, I think the Comeback Kobe run is one of the strongest individual cases any GOAT can make considering all the noise around him (aftermath of rape case, beefing with Phil, beefing with front office, can't win without Shaq narrative) and the relative talent on his team in comparison to other GOATs when they won...

And the fact he was an elite player for somewhere between 12-15 years. Steph is "only" at 9 years as an elite player, and I'm using "only" facetiously because that's healthy longevity of nearly a decade. Steph is knocking on that Kobe door easily though, if he extends his prime another year or two and there's more information to add into the evaluation of his career, I'll probably change my opinion...

What all of you are missing about kobe's peak is that we really never got to see his full peak cause he played with shaq

The prime peak that people evaluate kobe is 29-31, which is still saying alot if you consider most peak primes are around 26-29 years old, then you start to slowly go downhill athletically out your prime from 30-33 years old.

Kobe peek prime was 2004-2007 which only ones of those he had a decent team an lost in the finals, the rest of those years, his team was trash in a ultra competitive west, phil and shaq gone, the coach they had retired in the middle of season, his second best player was Lamar odom followed by kame brown
By the time lakers rebuilt that team to championship level Kobe was 29.


Look at competition in the west at the time Kobe went to three straight finals

Tim, Parker, Ginobili spurs
Anthony, Iverson-nuggets
Nowitzki-kid-mavericks
Nash, Stoudemire, diaw-sun's

All these team had more talented team then the lakers besides Mavericks

With steph this is completely different, during the first for warrior championship runs they undisputed had the best team, most talented roster in the league which really how they beat lebron.

Even this year the warriors have most talented roster in league, leads to more 1 on 1 defense which clay, curry all benifit from


Kobe routinely on a night in night basis faced double, triple teams, there's a reason why Kobe is called the best difficult shot maker

Steph playing along side clay who is arguably the second to 4th greatest shooter of all time, and Durant who is a top 15 great of all time allowed steph to play free of double teams, even now with clay and poole, teams can't collapse on steph cause the others will make them pay.

The only time steph an Kobe had a equal playing field is when Kobe had shaq and you seen those results 3 peat champs...

 

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If anything pau Gasol cost Kobe one title with his soft ass display

Champs...
You talking about that 2011 playoff run, specifically against the Mavericks....yea, I dont know what was going on with him that entire year