If lebron decided to show up before game 5 cavs would be 3-1 up
Steph Curry is banned from Finals MVP contention
If lebron decided to show up before game 5 cavs would be 3-1 up
eastside313
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Hold up old boy said curry is better at creating his own shot and has a better handle and a equal passer to isiah thomas.
Then old boy say vinnie johndon and kelly Tripuka helped Isaiah run the team and Bill laimbeer was good at creating his own shot
This being the most advanced defensive time ever in the nba when you can't even touch nobody
Y'all just saying anything now in here.
Then old boy say vinnie johndon and kelly Tripuka helped Isaiah run the team and Bill laimbeer was good at creating his own shot
This being the most advanced defensive time ever in the nba when you can't even touch nobody
Y'all just saying anything now in here.
i) Curry has one of the fastest releases, longest range (elite touch inside to elite stroke beyond halfcourt) and one of the best handles in league history - it's safe to say he can create his own shot better than ZekeHold up old boy said curry is better at creating his own shot and has a better handle and a equal passer to isiah thomas.
ii) He is an equal passer to Zeke -
i) When I say "help" I mean it in the sense that both helped out run the offense - not equally splitting the duties of running the offenseThen old boy say vinnie johndon and kelly Tripuka helped Isaiah run the team and Bill laimbeer was good at creating his own shot
ii) Laimbeer was certainly no McHale (by any stretch of the imagination) but he was still able to create his shot - it wasn't all on spot up attempts and second chance opportunities. The point I was making there was it wasn't like he was scoring 17 points a game while nobody was guarding him.
How can you sit there and say this after watching the playoffs this season, especially the *edit - WCF and the Finals?This being the most advanced defensive time ever in the nba when you can't even touch nobody
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eastside313
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i) Curry has one of the fastest releases, longest range (elite touch inside to elite stroke beyond halfcourt) and one of the best handles in league history - it's safe to say he can create his own shot better than Zeke
ii) He is an equal passer to Zeke -
i) When I say "help" I mean it in the sense that both helped out run the offense - not equally splitting the duties of running the offense
ii) Laimbeer was certainly no McHale (by any stretch of the imagination) but he was still able to create his shot - it wasn't all on spot up attempts and second chance opportunities. The point I was making there was it wasn't like he was scoring 17 points a game while nobody was guarding him.
How can you sit there and say this after watching the playoffs this season, especially thWCSF and the Finals?
Who has a better handle kyrie or steph?
Yeah they've been playing physical in the finals and how's that working out for curry.
Lol at laimbeer creating his own shot
Kyrie. But then again Kyrie has the GREATEST handle in league history.
He faced a more aggressive, physical, bigger and better defense in the WCF (averaging 32.7 ppg on 64 TS% during the last three elimination games) than he's facing in the Finals.Yeah they've been playing physical in the finals and how's that working out for curry.
He's getting open looks but he's just not knocking them down.
Looks like I'll to post this again -
To recap, gravity score measures how closely a player's defender sticks to him off the ball. Higher gravity scores generally belong to bigs because their primary defender must stay close and also protect the basket. On the other hand, guards typically have lower gravity scores simply because defenders have more liberty to shade off their guy on the perimeter. But elite shooters typically generate more attention off the ball.
Then there's distraction score, which quantifies how much a player's defender is willing to help off the ball to stop the ball handler. The worse he is as a shooter, the more likely his defender will be distracted by the ball handler. To identify the most effective floor-spacers in the NBA, I created a composite score that combines the two metrics. The result is what I've called "respect rating," which has now been translated to a 1-to-100 scale with 100 being the most magnetic (think sharpshooters) and 1 being least magnetic (think non-scoring bigs).
1. Stephen Curry, Golden State Warriors | Respect rating: 97.9
Gravity score: 97.3 | Distraction score: 98.4
Defenders have been allowed to be more physical with him than the majority of stars. If you'd been paying attention he's being held and pulled all over the court this season yet he was still able to score on the same level as prime Jordan. Go figure.
Read my explanation.
eastside313
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I don't need no damn gravity score to tell me anything. I got 2 eyes that I been watching basketball with for a quite a few years.
Okc wasn't trapping curry on the pick and roll like cavs are.
Sorry watching kyrie cook the Warriors the other night and he was looking like zeke out there. Kyrie handle is outstanding but Imo it's not better than zeke. I grew up watching Isiah since he had his first name on the jersey.
OKC was more aggressive, physical and guarded him with more length. Curry has had more open looks in this series than he was getting in the WCF. If you've got two eyes and don't need "gravity score" to tell you anything - I'm guessing that you're of the belief Curry warps defenses, receives more defensive attention and is more heavily-guarded than every single perimeter player in league history...
Well quite clearly you're 'eye test' needs some adjustment. Kyrie's handles are on another planet compared to Zeke's. It's not even debatable.
eastside313
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So you saying Curry is the best shooter in league history the only person in league history with a better handle than him is kyrie. Curry is the most heavily guarded player in league history. One of the best passers in league history. He's the most prolific scorer ever. All while playing during the best defensive era in history. Whats next you wanna say his high arcing layup is a better shot than the sky hook.OKC was more aggressive, physical and guarded him with more length. Curry has had more open looks in this series than he was getting in the WCF. If you've got two eyes and don't need "gravity score" to tell you anything - I'm guessing that you're of the belief Curry warps defenses, receives more defensive attention and is more heavily-guarded than every single perimeter player in league history...
Well quite clearly you're 'eye test' needs some adjustment. Kyrie's handles are on another planet compared to Zeke's. It's not even debatable.
We are all entitled to our opinion but you a prisoner of the moment Bruh.
Correct.
Nah. I do think he's in the conversation with the best ball-handlers though.
Perimeter player - yes. Correct.
This is a difficult one. He's up there, but in saying that there's three PGs in the league (Rondo, CP and Rubio) who're better passers than he is.
Nah. That's not what I said.
Correct.
What do you disagree with, and if you disagree with those points do you agree that he's at least up there in all those categories (except passing)?
What do you mean decide to show up before game 4.He was leading both teams in every statistical category up to game 4.Lebron is not a machine,He ran out of gas in game 4 because they only had 1 day of rest between games 3 & 4.Love had 4 full days of rest between games 2 and 4.The least he could do is go out and have a decent game.He's getting payed 22 m iilion per year.
More assists doesn't necessarily mean better passer.
More assists doesn't necessarily mean better passer.
Being a better passer means you're a better passer and Westbrook is most certainly a better passer. He ain't got the offensive players Curry has on the thunder squad, he makes Adams/Roberson/etc look good while they have very little ability to create and score for themselves. He finds people with ease and he's gotten far more perceptive of how the defenses collapse in on him over the years.