Steph Curry is banned from Finals MVP contention

[Newzz]

@Newzz

For someone that uses the box score stats all the time to compare players why are you ducking my question?

I never use box score stats to compare players



Anybody with 2 eyes can see that Mudiay's bum ass couldn't shoot....the box scores was just to rub it in even more

 

[Newzz]

isn't that how Jordan is considered better than everybody else? Yup.

 

[Newzz]

I'd say yes because I never saw what was so great about Isiah. Not his play, not his stats, nothing.

 

[Tha_Mac]

Curry just had one of the best seasons in NBA history, yet somehow that's not good enough to compare to Zeke's best season (when he didn't have ONE that came close to Curry's).

Why are you pushing this narrative bro? Just accept that Curry hasn't lived up to his unanimous MVP award in the postseason and specifically in the Finals.

To be honest I don't believe in the basketball gods but if they do exist then GSW shouldn't win this series so that Curry's lack of impact in the Finals can be a more prominent topic without the "well they still won the chip" argument.

 

[Randoug]

Nikkas must be wilding because they disabled rep system..I don't wanna believe you nikkas believe what you say.

 

[NatiboyB]

Did this dude really sit here and not give Isiah Thomas props young dudes Smdh

 

[Suleiman Bey]

Did this dude really sit here and not give Isiah Thomas props young dudes Smdh

Props for what though. Since box scores don't tell the story, tell us why he needs props. I seen dude play, I never thought he was anything special ever.

 

[NatiboyB]

Props for what though. Since box scores don't tell the story, tell us why he needs props. I seen dude play, I never thought he was anything special ever.

He is an alltime great player a winner the way he played and willed his team to victory if you couldn't see that I don't know what to tell you.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

You're judging Steph Curry best season vs Isiah Thomas best season and soley comparing their points & shooting %....ignoring the fact the 2 played in 2 totally different eras, in 2 totally different systems, with 2 totally different roles.

CAN Y'ALL nikkaS STOP SAYING THIS BULLshyt WHEN I'VE ACKNOWLEDGED AND ADDRESSED THIS shyt?

They were no Draymond Green's on Isiah Thomas' team to help run the offense in 1985. There were no Klay Thompson's on Isiah Thomas' team to help keep the defense attention in 1985. There were no "attack the 3 point line" mantras because the Pistons played 80s ball...midrange and in offense.

i) Tripucka and Johnson helped run the offense - regardless Draymond acts the go-between man for the Warriors other players - not necessarily to help Curry, it's really helping the team get the best possible shot because of the Warriors' motion offense. We've seen Curry run the offense and put up assists under Jackson, yet the offense wasn't ass good as it was now.
ii) Tripucka and Laimbeer helped him carry the main scoring load while attracting "defensive attention". Both players were among the best scorers at their respective positions who could create their own shots during that season:

Zeke averaged 21 ppg on 45% shooting
Tripucka averaged 19 ppg on 47% shooting (his career-high was 26.5 ppg - quite clearly he's comparable to Klay)
Laimbeer averaged 17.5 ppg on 50% shooting

Curry averaged 30 ppg on 50% shooting this season
Thompson averaged 22 ppg on 47% shooting this season

To add to that -

To recap, gravity score measures how closely a player's defender sticks to him off the ball. Higher gravity scores generally belong to bigs because their primary defender must stay close and also protect the basket. On the other hand, guards typically have lower gravity scores simply because defenders have more liberty to shade off their guy on the perimeter. But elite shooters typically generate more attention off the ball.

Then there's distraction score, which quantifies how much a player's defender is willing to help off the ball to stop the ball handler. The worse he is as a shooter, the more likely his defender will be distracted by the ball handler. To identify the most effective floor-spacers in the NBA, I created a composite score that combines the two metrics. The result is what I've called "respect rating," which has now been translated to a 1-to-100 scale with 100 being the most magnetic (think sharpshooters) and 1 being least magnetic (think non-scoring bigs).

1. Stephen Curry, Golden State Warriors | Respect rating: 97.9
Gravity score: 97.3 | Distraction score: 98.4

No player in the league is more heavily guarded or game-planned for than Curry is. There's a considerable margin between Curry and Zeke and how teams guarded and schemed for them. And yet Curry still scored more points on greater efficiency against most advanced defenses and a slower pace. Go figure.

If you don't know what you're talking about it would probably be best if you don't act like you are. I can see you have absolutely no knowledge of those '80s Pistons squads.

Here's Tripucka putting up 56 points if you're unfamiliar with his game -


iii) How the fukk are you going to use the "mantras" of the league in the 80s against Curry, when the defenses are more advanced and better today than they were in 1985 and basically rule it as null and void because Curry is only able to showcase his shooting ability due to the current trend of the league? You'd have an argument if Zeke actually was an efficent, consistent elite scorer who had the shooting ability of Larry Bird (an '80s comparative to Curry) but he wasn't.

Isiah Thomas was a better all-around player than Steph Curry is. Stats aren't needed in this discussion, because they don't measure everything that made Isiah Thomas great: court vision, passing ability, finishing ability, leadership, clutch, speed, heart, etc etc

Stop trying to shield your argument with nostalgia.

Curry has comparable court vision and passing ability
Curry is a better finisher
Leadership? What kind of nonsense is this. Another nostalgic codeword.
Curry is a better clutch player - not even up for debate.
Speed? What relevance does this have when Curry is a better ball-handler and can create his shot better than Zeke could
Heart? Another nostalgic codeword.

I'm not gonna sit here and debate something STUPID like "bu-bu-but, Steph Curry best season was better than Isiah Thomas'....so he's better to me dammit!"

You can't debate it because you don't have a proper argument because you don't know what you're talking point.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Why are you pushing this narrative bro? Just accept that Curry hasn't lived up to his unanimous MVP award in the postseason and specifically in the Finals.

Where exactly have I said or insinuated that he has played up to his ability consistently in the Finals?

He averaged 34.5 ppg on 50% shooting in the second round against Portland
When the Warriors were down 1-3 in WCF he brought them back by averaging 32.7 ppg on 47% shooting in the last three games (for comparison Klay averaged 29.7 ppg on 40% shooting)

Clearly he has lived up to his great regular season performance when his team needed him to during the playoffs - all the while dealing with coming back from injury.

To be honest I don't believe in the basketball gods but if they do exist then GSW shouldn't win this series so that Curry's lack of impact in the Finals can be a more prominent topic without the "well they still won the chip" argument.

This is just insane.

 

[Biscayne]

Time to accept Curry's game doesn't work in the playoffs. He'd be Damian Lillard without the ATG supporting cast.

Problem is, the same folks who want to roast Curry and chalk up his success to having a great team, just so happen to be the same people who don't want to admit that GS is an actual All-Time great team in the first place, and they also happen to be Bron fans......

And if Bron is better than Curry in the playoffs, and if Kyrie is better than Curry in the playoffs, and if GS is overrated and isn't an All-Time great team, than Cleveland should win, no excuses. But it never seems to work like that.....

 

[CantStop]

@Gil Scott-Heroin purposely writes long posts cause he knows we won't read all that shyt. You ever heard of quality over quantity? Seriously get your point across without the essays. Do you enjoy watching movies that take 2 hours to get to the plot?

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

@Gil Scott-Heroin purposely writes long posts cause he knows we won't read all that shyt. You ever heard of quality over quantity?

My posts are quality and quantity - I addressed all of @Newzz points, broke them down and gave an accurate counter argument. If you don't believe me read them. I ain't typing out a bunch of words for the hell of it. I type out detailed posts so folk can get a better understanding and limit their ignorance.

Seriously get your point across without the essays.

I try to do that, but then cats complain I don't provide context. What is a nikka to do...

Do you enjoy watching movies that take 2 hours to get to the plot?

I am fond of slow-paced films with heavy subtext.

 

[CantStop]

My posts are quality and quantity - I addressed all of @Newzz points, broke them down and gave an accurate counter argument. If you don't believe me read them. I ain't typing out a bunch of words for the hell of it. I write long posts so folk can get a better understanding and limit their ignorance.

I try to do that, but then cats complain I don't provide context. What is a nikka to do...



I am fond of slow-paced films with heavy subtext.

People don't know that we really are brehs just having fun

 

[Mars]

And if Bron is better than Curry in the playoffs, and if Kyrie is better than LeBron in the playoffs, and if GS is overrated and isn't an All-Time great team, than Cleveland should win, no excuses. But it never seems to work like that.....

The problem with the Cavs is that.......as great as Kyrie has been,Love has been equally as bad.If Love was just playing average basketball the cavs would be up 3-2.