Steph Curry is banned from Finals MVP contention
I didn't ask you who I was dummy. I asked you about Kevin Love and your uncertainty about the obvious.I was just appreciating the hate. I don't know who you are
Bilz
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I dapped the post because it was vicious, not because of some discussion about Kevin Loves defense that I had completely forgot about.
I didn't ask why you dapper a lost pussie, I asked you about some stupid shyt that you said about Kevin Love. You acting like a bytch playing stupid like you don't remember what you've said isn't surprising tho.
Explain how and what do you think Zeke's peak was.
I can post about whatever the fukk I want. It just so happens I like calling out nonsense.
Bilz
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You were saying I was being passive aggressive by dapping the post as if it had anything to do with some discussion we had about Kevin Loves defense. It didn't.
Since you still seem to want to talk about that, I think people rely almost exclusively on media generated reputations to judge defense. For offense, we generally know peoples ppg, fg% and so on, but have no clue whether defensive metrics support or contradict the media narratives, or the one vine people watched a million loops of.
I agree with those that say Love is weak at protecting the rim or guarding the roll man, etc, but isolating that is no different than judging Damian Lillards offense on his post game.
NaijaProdigy Redux
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Yes, he was a better shooter than Thomas....but he wasn't a better scorer than Zeke and Zeke was a better all-around player than him.
Post Zeke's best season and then post Curry's best season then tell me who's better.
30 PPG on 50% FG shooting (20 FGA per game) or 22.9 PPG on 47% FG shooting (19 FGA per game).
That is a HUGE scoring difference. Again, this is like the difference in scoring between Kobe and fukking Rudy Gay.
And that's Zeke's best scoring season, the difference gets even BIGGER when Zeke started racking up double digit assists because his scoring dipped.
Let's be real.
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Got multiple posters running around saying Lillard is better than Curry
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No it's not. It's not reasonable at all.
Lowry was the best and most important player on a 56-win squad (who were missing two starters for a combined 80 games)
Lowry averaged more points on better efficiency against better defenses/defenders, more defensive attention and tighter coverage
He orchestrated a better offense than Kidd did during his peak as a player - balancing when to pass and shoot better than Kidd did
He guarded the best guard threat on most nights while juggling a larger offensive load than Kidd
Opened up the floor and attracted more defensive attention than Kidd ever did
He displays all the "intangibles" that cats prop up Kidd for when trying to cover up his deficiencies on offense
Kidd was the better passer (yet funnily enough Lowry ran a better offense) and had more defensive versatility but that's about it.
Jackson couldn't even average double digit scoring and was terribly inefficient, where he was the 5th/6th best player and was matched up with the worst perimeter defender. For you to even think that Jackson (during his second tenure in Indiana) was better than Lowry speaks to me you have absolutely no idea of what you're talking about.
I've mentioned that countless times in the past. Pay attention. I'm not going to keep bringing up the finer details (using adjustment for pace, detailing defensive schemes, role placement etc etc) every time a Zeke v Curry comparison takes place.
I've gone into detail about all this before.
Cliffsnotes - He displayed a better skillset while being the main cog in the most high-powered offense of the modern era, scoring at a rate that Zeke never came close to (Curry basically scored on the same level as prime Jordan) while dealing with more defensive attention and more advanced defensive schemes that were on another level to what Zeke experienced. He was the perimeter version of '00 Shaq this season. Go and watch some tape and see how Curry warps defenses on and off the ball.
Nah that's actually only one part of my argument.
i) If we're going on Zeke at his peak (I'm assuming we're talking about early in his career when he was given more offensive freedom) - the early to mid-80s had WORSE defenses/schemes, worst defenders, a smaller talent pool and teams played at far greater pace.
ii) Curry received more defensive attention than practically every single perimeter player that's ever played the game this season in the best and advanced defensive era.
Zeke NEVER once had the type of offensive impact that Curry did this season because he didn't have the skillset to replicate it.
Which version of Zeke are you talking about here? If you're suddenly shifting this to Zeke during the late '80s than it invalidates your argument even more.
You have absolutely no idea of what you're talking about. Never mind the Westbrook and Kyrie are better players (at the PG position) than Zeke ever had to face during a postseason stretch.
Again, what version of Zeke are you referring to here? This season Curry was a better defender than Zeke was during the first third or so of his career - defending against better offensive players than Zeke did. He most definitely had a better skillset: better general scorer, better at creating his own shot, better at balancing when to pass/shoot, better handle, better decision maker, equal passer and vision, better playing off the ball. The list goes on. Might I add that it's not how many things he's better at too, it's what impact his skillsets allows him to have on the game.
This is why you and others are clueless when it comes to dissecting the game. It's like we're talking about Kyle Korver here. Use your brain and look at how Curry's shooting affects the game. You can use that same braindead talking point by saying that Rondo at his best was better than Curry because all Curry did better than him was shoot the ball.
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Why does this board work on this logic when comparing players:
x-player - one point for being a better scorer
y-player - one point for being a better rebounder
y-player - one point for being a better passer
y-player - one point for getting more steals
y-player - one point for getting more assists
x-player - one point for being a better shooter
x-player = two points
y-player = four points
Therefore concluding that y-player is the better player like somehow all those categories have equal value.
x-player - one point for being a better scorer
y-player - one point for being a better rebounder
y-player - one point for being a better passer
y-player - one point for getting more steals
y-player - one point for getting more assists
x-player - one point for being a better shooter
x-player = two points
y-player = four points
Therefore concluding that y-player is the better player like somehow all those categories have equal value.
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No, save the essays tryna explain shyt chump. I didn't see an answer to my question.
at your fakkit ass.