STEM Education And Jobs: Declining Numbers Of Blacks Seen In Math, Science

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how can we talk about black people exercising power and influence yet support that type of mentality?:thahell:

None of what was written has anything to do with gaining power and influence in this capitalistic economy.
 

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None of what was written has anything to do with gaining power and influence in this capitalistic economy.
:mindblown: is that not that the argument you used in regards to Blacks graduating with STEM degrees ?

And how STEM degrees are not the answer to black people's issues which have to do with Power and influence and COMMUNAL WEALTH in this Capitalistic system?

My point is, how are you dapping a post like that, when the stuff that The breh said in that post are the complete anti-thesis of your point here.....
Nope, Blacks have never had a problem with individual wealth. Going into stem will diversify individual wealth but it does nothing to address communal wealth nor does it free up access capital.



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and The breh was talking about not caring bout changing the world, which is fine b/c not everybody really cares about changing society,

But Dude responded to a post talking about how a lot of nikkaz would rather play the sidelines instead of participating in advancing technology or science which is one of the Main avenues to achieve influence in this Capitalistic society.

This type of individualistic rhetoric is poison IMO especially for black people who collectively don't have much influence in really any Sector. Even in entertainment

speaking of entertainment, lol at dude who said he'd rather be the next Pharell :mjlol: :pachaha:
 
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:mindblown: is that not that the argument you used in regards to Blacks graduating with STEM degrees ?

And how STEM degrees are not the answer to black people's issues which have to do with Power and influence and COMMUNAL WEALTH in this Capitalistic system?

My point is, how are you dapping a post like that, when the stuff that The breh said in that post are the complete anti-thesis of your point here.....

Neither post addresses communal wealth, fam. I dapped up the post because it explains WHY people do not pursue STEM and why it is not practical that everyone pursue it.
 

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yep, the STEM pipeline is directly related to black people building our own technologies (cell phones, planes, automobiles, software etc), without a STEM pipeline black people cannot rise and we will always be stuck on the bottom rung

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these dudes would rather be technicians than inventors. shyt is sad.
 

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fam, do you not know how few black science PhDs there are?

People literally open their doors to you if you remotely express interest in attaining one.

Who is saying we don't need more black science PhDs? We need more everything. It isn't a solution to economic apartheid, only more access to capital is the solution.
 

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Who is saying we don't need more black science PhDs? We need more everything. It isn't a solution to economic apartheid, only more access to capital is the solution.
Then just stop arguing like a dumbass.

And access to capital means fukk-all when you don't have the skills to manifest it into something greater.

Skills THROUGH advanced education.
 

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Then just stop arguing like a dumbass.

And access to capital means fukk-all when you don't have the skills to manifest it into something greater.

Skills THROUGH advanced education.

Try to be a little more coherent.
 

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The 15 College Majors With The Highest Starting Salaries

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Salary potential shouldn't be the sole thing that attracts you to a major in college; things like passion, interest, and aptitude should also be considered. But it's still nice to know which degrees pay off the fastest.

Payscale, the creator of the world's largest compensation database, recently looked at the starting pay for millions of professionals and sorted the results by college major.


1. Petroleum Engineering
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Median starting pay: $102,300

Median mid-career pay: $176,300

% change from starting to mid-career: +72%

2. Chemical Engineering
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Flickr/UC Davis College of Engineering
Median starting pay: $69,600

Median mid-career pay: $116,700

% change from starting to mid-career: +68%

3. Computer Engineering
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BYU-Idaho Admissions/Flickr
Median starting pay: $67,300

Median mid-career pay: $108,600

% change from starting to mid-career: +61%

4. Nuclear Engineering
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U.S. Army Europe Images/flickr
Median starting pay: $67,000

Median mid-career pay: $118,800

% change from starting to mid-career: +77%

5. Computer Science & Engineering
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Pablo Blazquez Dominguez/Getty Images
Median starting pay: $66,700

Median mid-career pay: $112,600

% change from starting to mid-career: +69%

6. Electrical & Computer Engineering
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UC Davis College of Engineering/Watson Lu/flickr
Median starting pay: $66,500

Median mid-career pay: $113,000

% change from starting to mid-career: +70%

7. Electrical Engineering
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NASA/Goddard via flickr
Median starting pay: $65,900

Median mid-career pay: $107,900

% change from starting to mid-career: +64%

8. Aerospace Engineering
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NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory/flickr
Median starting pay: $64,700

Median mid-career pay: $107,900

% change from starting to mid-career: +67%

9. Electronics & Communications Engineering
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UC Davis College of Engineering/flickr
Median starting pay: $64,100

Median mid-career pay: $113,200

% change from starting to mid-career: +77%

10. Materials Science & Engineering
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UC Davis College of Engineering
Median starting pay: $64,000

Median mid-career pay: $105,100

% change from starting to mid-career: +64%

11. Computer Science (CS) & Mathematics
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University of the Fraser Valley/flickr
Median starting pay: $63,200

Median mid-career pay: $101,400

% change from starting to mid-career: 60%

12. Mechanical Engineering
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Flickr/UC Davis College of Engineering
Median starting pay: $62,100

Median mid-career pay: $101,600

% change from starting to mid-career: +64%

13. Industrial Engineering
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U.S. Army Corps of Engineers photo by Michael J. Nevins/flickr
Median starting pay: $61,900

Median mid-career pay: $97,200

% change from starting to mid-career: +57%

14. Software Engineering
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Median starting pay: $61,700

Median mid-career pay: $99,800

% change from starting to mid-career: +62%

15. Computer Science
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UC Davis College of Engineering/flickr
Median starting pay: $61,600

Median mid-career pay: $103,600

% change from starting to mid-career: +68%



Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/coll...t-starting-salaries-2015-1?op=1#ixzz3OXZqviMn
 

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13 College Majors In Which The Pay Goes Nowhere

  • NOV. 18, 2014, 9:58 AM
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When deciding on a college major, students are encouraged to think about a few things: what they love to do; what they want to do; what jobs they imagine themselves in; and what the earning and growth potential is like for those careers.

For instance, they would probably want to know ahead of time that human services majors see their annual pay increase by only about $7,500, or 22%, over the first 10 years of their careers, compared with the average American worker, whose salary grows by about $25,000, or 60%, in that time.

That's according to Payscale, the creator of the world's largest compensation database with more than 40 million salary profiles. It recently looked at the difference between starting (less than five years of experience) and mid-career (10 or more years of experience) pay by college major, and it determined the 13 majors with the smallest salary growth.

"We're not trying to discourage students from pursuing these majors — we're simply offering information so that students can make informed choices and get the most out of their degree, whatever major they choose," says Kayla Hill, a research analyst at Payscale.

Among the majors, child development has the lowest starting salary ($32,200) and mid-career pay ($36,400) while showing the least amount of growth in the first 10 years ($4,200, or 13%).

"Human support service majors tend to be paid less across the board," Hill says. "Child development workers in particular may see less growth over time because it is a field that tends to be undervalued by society. Additionally, childcare workers may not have the same opportunities for advancement as more technical jobs, where learning new skills can lead to a pay bump or promotion."

Human services majors had the second-lowest salary growth between starting and mid-career, while early childhood and elementary education had the third-smallest.

"People in support service jobs tend to find a high level of meaning from their jobs despite the lower pay," Hill says. "For many of these workers, the satisfaction and fulfillment they receive from helping others outweighs the lack of pay growth."


13. Theology
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Common job: Chaplain

Starting median pay: $36,800

Mid-career median pay: $51,600

Difference: $14,800 / 40%

12. Social Work
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Army Medicine/flickr
Common jobs: Mental health therapist; social worker; nonprofit program manager

Starting median pay: $32,800

Mid-career median pay: $46,600

Difference: $13,800 / 42%

11. Nutrition
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U.S. Department of Agriculture/Flickr
Common jobs: Nutritionist; dietitian

Starting median pay: $41,700

Mid-career median pay: $56,400

Difference: $14,700 / 35%

10. Horticulture
10-horticulture.jpg

COD Newsroom/flickr
Common jobs: Horticulturist; landscape manager

Starting median pay: $35,200

Mid-career median pay: $47,700

Difference: $12,500 /36%

9. Special Education
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AP Photo/Paul Sancya
Common jobs: Intervention specialist; secondary school teacher; behavior analyst

Starting median pay: $34,500

Mid-career median pay: $46,800

Difference: $12,300 / 36%

8. Recreation & Leisure Studies
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Vancouver Film School/flickr
Common jobs: Activities director; recreation therapist

Starting median pay: $35,800

Mid-career median pay: $47,100

Difference: $11,300 / 32%

7. Medical Technology
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REUTERS/Mike Brown
Common jobs: Laboratory manager; clinical laboratory technologist

Starting median pay: $47,800

Mid-career median pay: $60,200

Difference: $12,400 / 26%

6. Athletic Training
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USMC Wounded Warrior Regiment
Common job: Athletic trainer

Starting median pay: $35,000

Mid-career median pay: $45,900

Difference: $10,900 / 31%

5. Pastoral Ministry
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Flickr/Scott Schram
Common job: Pastor

Starting median pay: $36,300

Mid-career median pay: $46,000

Difference: $9,700 / 27%

4. Clinical Laboratory Science
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AFP / Stringer / Getty Images
Common jobs: Clinical laboratory technician; clinical laboratory scientist

Starting median pay: $48,000

Mid-career median pay: $59,900

Difference: $11,900 / 25%

3. Early Childhood & Elementary Education
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Grant Halverson/Getty Images
Common job: Elementary school teacher

Starting median pay: $32,300

Mid-career median pay: $40,400

Difference: $8,100 / 25%

2. Human Services
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Flickr/jcjack
Common jobs: Administrative assistant; medical case manager; nonprofit program coordinator

Starting median pay: $33,800

Mid-career median pay: $41,300

Difference: $7,500 / 22%

1. Child Development
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Common jobs: Daycare teacher; preschool teacher; nanny

Starting median pay: $32,200

Mid-career median pay: $36,400

Difference: $4,200 / 13%



Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/college-majors-where-the-pay-goes-nowhere-2014-11?op=1#ixzz3OXapQ6pX
 

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13 College Majors In Which The Pay Goes Nowhere

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When deciding on a college major, students are encouraged to think about a few things: what they love to do; what they want to do; what jobs they imagine themselves in; and what the earning and growth potential is like for those careers.

For instance, they would probably want to know ahead of time that human services majors see their annual pay increase by only about $7,500, or 22%, over the first 10 years of their careers, compared with the average American worker, whose salary grows by about $25,000, or 60%, in that time.

That's according to Payscale, the creator of the world's largest compensation database with more than 40 million salary profiles. It recently looked at the difference between starting (less than five years of experience) and mid-career (10 or more years of experience) pay by college major, and it determined the 13 majors with the smallest salary growth.

"We're not trying to discourage students from pursuing these majors — we're simply offering information so that students can make informed choices and get the most out of their degree, whatever major they choose," says Kayla Hill, a research analyst at Payscale.

Among the majors, child development has the lowest starting salary ($32,200) and mid-career pay ($36,400) while showing the least amount of growth in the first 10 years ($4,200, or 13%).

"Human support service majors tend to be paid less across the board," Hill says. "Child development workers in particular may see less growth over time because it is a field that tends to be undervalued by society. Additionally, childcare workers may not have the same opportunities for advancement as more technical jobs, where learning new skills can lead to a pay bump or promotion."

Human services majors had the second-lowest salary growth between starting and mid-career, while early childhood and elementary education had the third-smallest.

"People in support service jobs tend to find a high level of meaning from their jobs despite the lower pay," Hill says. "For many of these workers, the satisfaction and fulfillment they receive from helping others outweighs the lack of pay growth."


13. Theology
13-theology.jpg

ftmeade/Flickr
Common job: Chaplain

Starting median pay: $36,800

Mid-career median pay: $51,600

Difference: $14,800 / 40%

12. Social Work
12-social-work.jpg

Army Medicine/flickr
Common jobs: Mental health therapist; social worker; nonprofit program manager

Starting median pay: $32,800

Mid-career median pay: $46,600

Difference: $13,800 / 42%

11. Nutrition
11-nutrition.jpg

U.S. Department of Agriculture/Flickr
Common jobs: Nutritionist; dietitian

Starting median pay: $41,700

Mid-career median pay: $56,400

Difference: $14,700 / 35%

10. Horticulture
10-horticulture.jpg

COD Newsroom/flickr
Common jobs: Horticulturist; landscape manager

Starting median pay: $35,200

Mid-career median pay: $47,700

Difference: $12,500 /36%

9. Special Education
9-special-education.jpg

AP Photo/Paul Sancya
Common jobs: Intervention specialist; secondary school teacher; behavior analyst

Starting median pay: $34,500

Mid-career median pay: $46,800

Difference: $12,300 / 36%

8. Recreation & Leisure Studies
8-recreation-and-leisure-studies.jpg

Vancouver Film School/flickr
Common jobs: Activities director; recreation therapist

Starting median pay: $35,800

Mid-career median pay: $47,100

Difference: $11,300 / 32%

7. Medical Technology
7-medical-technology.jpg

REUTERS/Mike Brown
Common jobs: Laboratory manager; clinical laboratory technologist

Starting median pay: $47,800

Mid-career median pay: $60,200

Difference: $12,400 / 26%

6. Athletic Training
6-athletic-training.jpg

USMC Wounded Warrior Regiment
Common job: Athletic trainer

Starting median pay: $35,000

Mid-career median pay: $45,900

Difference: $10,900 / 31%

5. Pastoral Ministry
5-pastoral-ministry.jpg

Flickr/Scott Schram
Common job: Pastor

Starting median pay: $36,300

Mid-career median pay: $46,000

Difference: $9,700 / 27%

4. Clinical Laboratory Science
4-clinical-laboratory-science.jpg

AFP / Stringer / Getty Images
Common jobs: Clinical laboratory technician; clinical laboratory scientist

Starting median pay: $48,000

Mid-career median pay: $59,900

Difference: $11,900 / 25%

3. Early Childhood & Elementary Education
3-early-childhood-and-elementary-education.jpg

Grant Halverson/Getty Images
Common job: Elementary school teacher

Starting median pay: $32,300

Mid-career median pay: $40,400

Difference: $8,100 / 25%

2. Human Services
2-human-services.jpg

Flickr/jcjack
Common jobs: Administrative assistant; medical case manager; nonprofit program coordinator

Starting median pay: $33,800

Mid-career median pay: $41,300

Difference: $7,500 / 22%

1. Child Development
1-child-development.jpg

Shutterstock
Common jobs: Daycare teacher; preschool teacher; nanny

Starting median pay: $32,200

Mid-career median pay: $36,400

Difference: $4,200 / 13%



Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/college-majors-where-the-pay-goes-nowhere-2014-11?op=1#ixzz3OXapQ6pX

See these are the kind of occupations that attract people who are more about passion than profit, not necessarily a bad thing.

Speaking of which, I plan on going back to school, not really sure what I should go back for and I'm only going back to school so I can have something as a back up so I'm not working retail or customer service well into my 20's, any suggestions on what I should be looking into?

My interest in subjects are history, english, and science (to an extent) so-so with computers and software.

Please respond (free rep for a week if you get this reference.)
 

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See these are the kind of occupations that attract people who are more about passion than profit, not necessarily a bad thing.

Speaking of which, I plan on going back to school, not really sure what I should go back for and I'm only going back to school so I can have something as a back up so I'm not working retail or customer service well into my 20's, any suggestions on what I should be looking into?

My interest in subjects are history, english, and science (to an extent) so-so with computers and software.

Please respond (free rep for a week if you get this reference.)

it sounds like you should go into teaching, you can teach science or other subjects without going all in

i agree that people should pursue their passion, i actually dont agree with forcing people into STEM, i just think its important that people be made aware of STEM and be given the chance to explore the STEM world
 
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